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First date kiss

Nah, I pretty much don't do first date kisses. Seems a little forced or fake somehow. Like meet someone and expect a kiss at the end, life just doesn't work like that for me. I do it when it comes naturally, which is pretty much never at the end of a first date.

Unless I'm drunk, doesn't even really have to be a date for that
 
Play it by ear. If you feel like it's working out, go for it. If you don't think you're going to see them again because the date was terrible, don't do it.
 
During the discussion, manage to find out if she's a lefty or a righty. Bring it up into the discussion like "what hand you write with?" At the end, if she's right handed and she leans towards your left cheek, she doesn't want to kiss you, she just does a cheek thing. If she somehow ends up on your right cheek, it means she wanted to kiss you and you dodged it so you come back and give her a kiss. If you got good reflexes you can catch it the first time. I'm a computer gamer so I have fast reflexes but for guys with slow reflexes you can return.
 
Always play it by ear, it is all dependent on any possible chemistry. If I really liked someone and it felt right then I went for it. I've never been denied, im also a girl, so I'm not sure if that makes a difference.
 
Offering a kiss to a woman is like offering a handshake to your boss, you might have the surprise not to receive one back. This happened to a friend of mine David, friends with me and my friends. David offered a handshake to a guy named Tarek in front of me and Dave's other friends, and Tarek didn't shake his hand. Less than a week later, around February, Tarek changed school at the expense of his parents, having paid the full semester.

With women it's less bad. If a woman refuses a kiss after a date, it only puts an end to the relation but the man's reputation remains untamed. It means she isn't ready to have a relationship. If a man refuses a kiss however, it's an insult to the woman and to her family. If the man thought she isn't worthy of being kissed, then why did he take her out? Very simple common sense.
 
It's pretty much just trial and error dude. Two good indicators are if your driving, walk her to her door, once u get there if she doesn't instantly reach for her keys and unlock the door, it's pretty good indicator she's looking for a kiss. Or if she's driving and stops in front of your place to drop you off, if she puts the car in park instead of just resting on the break then I'd say go in for the kiss.

Regardless a kiss is good for a first date. Don't ask her to come in cus thats too forward at first, but a kiss lets her kno ur interested and leaves her wanting more
 
It's pretty much just trial and error dude. Two good indicators are if your driving, walk her to her door, once u get there if she doesn't instantly reach for her keys and unlock the door, it's pretty good indicator she's looking for a kiss. Or if she's driving and stops in front of your place to drop you off, if she puts the car in park instead of just resting on the break then I'd say go in for the kiss.

Regardless a kiss is good for a first date. Don't ask her to come in cus thats too forward at first, but a kiss lets her kno ur interested and leaves her wanting more

Man you stole that first one from Hitch lol! I'm not really looking for advice here i am more curious how other guys do it. Im sure some people just go for it, if you've both had a good time but she doesn't see you like "that" guy for her a kiss is a good indicator of where both parties stand.


/e just wanna add to this last part
Idk how old you are mate but my generations dating rules seem to be changing drastically compared to the previous. Today a date is rarely inviting a girl out to a nice dinner. Infact it feels like the date concept is kinda taboo at first, you invite a girl to "hang out" to a party or a cup of joe. So in these scenarios it can be kinda uncertain if a girl has romantic interests or enjoys your company. I havent put this very eloquently typing from my phone but i hope my point is clear.
 
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Offering a kiss to a woman is like offering a handshake to your boss, you might have the surprise not to receive one back. This happened to a friend of mine David, friends with me and my friends. David offered a handshake to a guy named Tarek in front of me and Dave's other friends, and Tarek didn't shake his hand. Less than a week later, around February, Tarek changed school at the expense of his parents, having paid the full semester.

I have no idea how this is related or indeed what it even means
 
^I think KSA's saying the handshake thing is similar in that if you just plow ahead and assume your gesture/move will be reciprocated, you can end up in a pretty awkward spot and/or completely ruin things.
What to do on a first date is a play it by ear type deal. See how things go throughout the night. If you feel pretty good about how things are going and you're getting positive vibes from her, cautiously go for it. Maybe.
If it seems like you should wait, then wait. If it seems like you should run from this girl, run from her.
I know that may all seem obvious but it's legit. Play things by ear and use your spidey sense to figure this stuff. It ain't rocket science. Don't stress and things will work out fine.
 
If the date went well I always go for a kiss. I wouldn't bother if I did not like the girl.

That being said when a date goes well more than kissing usually happens.

I always get the same line "I really want to have sex, but I don't want you to think I am a slut." I say something like "ssshhh, its ok, I really like you to, I wouldn't think that." Usually half the time I mean it.
 
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