Baker
Bluelighter
Ok, so I'm considering joining in with someone who has finally convinced me to do a cycle of deca 200 and sustanon 250 at 1/2 a ml each for 8-10 weeks.
I am 25 at 186cm (6'1) and weigh 83kg (182.6lb) at about 9-10% body fat. I currently hit the gym about 4 times a week, cycle to work 3 times a week (4.5km's away). I breakdance on weekends (and also get a little practice in each day, practicing different dance moves or just plain handstands and freezes out of sheer enjoyment of my bodies abilities). I also do yoga once or twice a week and occasionally go hiking, mountain biking, rock climbing or some other form of activity like practicing gymnastics for fun.
I often try to limit my cardio despite loving it as I don't like having to eat more than I need to as I don't like burning up to many calories which could be spent on muscle production. However I appreciate the mood lift it gives me, the increased metabolism, the flushing out of blood through the muscles and increased cardiovascular health. I use the sauna once a week using the plunge pool to try and clear my muscles of lactic acid
I consider my diet to be very good, lots of vegetables, meats, whole grains.. no milk or wheat in my diet or processed foods. Good understanding of vitamins and minerals. 3.5 litres of water a day and about 6 meals with at least 30g protein each. I try to make sure I'm not eating too much fiber or too much protein by the consistency of my poo (sorry)
I basically want to improve my breakdancing and gymnastics abilities, while also stacking on a bit of strength and definition for aesthetic purposes too (though secondary).
The question I'm asking is if doing 1/2 a ml of each week is a waste of time... SWIM suggested that it was a great cycle for a first timer and won't make you bulk out like an average cycle would, while still providing relatively decent gains. This suits me as I don't really want a higher dose potentially heightening the risk of side effects.
However I am curious of the side effects of a lower dose being ineffective and being potentially detrimental to my current testosterone levels.
Secondly what type of PCT would be useful for this cycle, or is deca enough of an estrogen blocker.
I was thinking perhaps OTC supplements might be enough? d-aspartic acid, tribulus and a herbal product called estro crusher, considering the half dose of the cycle.
Thoughts appreciated?
Please don't tell me I'm an idiot, like I see on other forums, I'm trying to do this as sensibly and educated as possible and it's not constructive.
Baker
I am 25 at 186cm (6'1) and weigh 83kg (182.6lb) at about 9-10% body fat. I currently hit the gym about 4 times a week, cycle to work 3 times a week (4.5km's away). I breakdance on weekends (and also get a little practice in each day, practicing different dance moves or just plain handstands and freezes out of sheer enjoyment of my bodies abilities). I also do yoga once or twice a week and occasionally go hiking, mountain biking, rock climbing or some other form of activity like practicing gymnastics for fun.
I often try to limit my cardio despite loving it as I don't like having to eat more than I need to as I don't like burning up to many calories which could be spent on muscle production. However I appreciate the mood lift it gives me, the increased metabolism, the flushing out of blood through the muscles and increased cardiovascular health. I use the sauna once a week using the plunge pool to try and clear my muscles of lactic acid
I consider my diet to be very good, lots of vegetables, meats, whole grains.. no milk or wheat in my diet or processed foods. Good understanding of vitamins and minerals. 3.5 litres of water a day and about 6 meals with at least 30g protein each. I try to make sure I'm not eating too much fiber or too much protein by the consistency of my poo (sorry)
I basically want to improve my breakdancing and gymnastics abilities, while also stacking on a bit of strength and definition for aesthetic purposes too (though secondary).
The question I'm asking is if doing 1/2 a ml of each week is a waste of time... SWIM suggested that it was a great cycle for a first timer and won't make you bulk out like an average cycle would, while still providing relatively decent gains. This suits me as I don't really want a higher dose potentially heightening the risk of side effects.
However I am curious of the side effects of a lower dose being ineffective and being potentially detrimental to my current testosterone levels.
Secondly what type of PCT would be useful for this cycle, or is deca enough of an estrogen blocker.
I was thinking perhaps OTC supplements might be enough? d-aspartic acid, tribulus and a herbal product called estro crusher, considering the half dose of the cycle.
Thoughts appreciated?
Please don't tell me I'm an idiot, like I see on other forums, I'm trying to do this as sensibly and educated as possible and it's not constructive.
Baker
