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films: Deleted Scenes better left in the movie?

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DemonsFall

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Does anyone else feel that people are often a bit too concerned with the length of a film? I for one have never minded long films, as long as the subject matter is interesting and it doesn't get to a point where it's just pointlessly dragging on. If the scenes are integral to the story and time isn't just being wasted, I really don't care how long a movie is.

In the last few years, with films being released on special edition DVDs and what not, viewers have been given the chance to see the stuff that had previously just been left on the cutting room floor. I for one often find that when watching deleted scenes, I think that the film would've been better had they been included originally. Listening to director introductions or commentary on deleted scenes, I'll often hear things like "Well, I really liked the scene, but the movie was just running too long". For me, I don't think that the length of a film should warrant removing a scene if it's good and important to the movie. I find it sort of frustrating that I've been missing all of this good stuff over the years just because some studio executive didn't want a movie running past 90 minutes.

Obviously, scenes are often times better left out of a movie. If they didn't fit with the rest of the movie for whatever reason, their better left out, but I don't think that an otherwise good scene should be left out for reasons of length alone.

Does anyone else feel this way? Are there any particular movies you feel would've been significantly better had certain scenes been left in?
 
Whenever I watch deleted scenes, I've been pretty glad they were deleted. Some do not add to the continuity of the movie, and some that I've seen just don't make sense.

The only movie I felt that should have kept its deleted scenes was Death to Smoochy.
 
one film really jumps out at this: Aliens

every inch of celleloid that made it as a deleted scene in the directors cut pushed the characterization, or made the film much more intense (the auto-turret shots)
 
I guess there is a reason they are "deleted scenes"... but with the scenes that are cut due to time restraints,... I'm not for it.

However, I do get a certain perverse pleasure in watching the deleted scenes from my DVDs, and have been dissapointed when purchasing or renting a movie that didn't include any.

One thing I would like to see with DVDs... the option to play the movie with the "deleted scenes" placed back into the movie... I can only think of one DVD that I've seen that has that option, and I think it was "X-Men"...
 
I want ALL the deleted scenes in 91/2 weeks spliced back or at least put in the dvd (yeah right, im wishful thinking. ) Every cel with mickey rourke at his most GORGEOUS and inspired must be preserved forever! 8)

eeeek! thats all i can think of right now.....lol =D
 
Terminator makes a whole lot more sense in the Ultimate Edition version... some of the deleted scenes are really important to the story, I don't know how they could have removed them!
 
at the end of the day, surely it's basic logistics. 3.5 hour movies are great but cinemas, for the most part, have to have as many showings as possible. also, i'm not sayign it's right but multiple cuts can create additional income on the DVD/video sales.

obviously there are many variables but, generally speaking, i'm all for the idea of a theatrical cut with a 'director's cut' shown in a smaller run later.

i was watching a movie recently and there was a scene that i could not believe they ommitted from the first cut. of course, i can't remember for the life of me what movie it was. thinking cap on...

alasdair
 
There are very few movies that come to mind that would have been even better with the deleted scenes kept in. Donnie Darko is the best example. Seems like a lot of directors today keep the camera rolling with dvd extras in mind. The only time they seem appropriate is when they've been deleted for time purposes. The rest of the time,it's because they're not deemed worthy for the film. Usually,for a good reason.
 
When re-instituted scenes go bad: Apocalypse Now Redux. The film was perfect how it was and I think that this version is near impossible tp sit through without at least nodding off before they reach the Kurtz compound. While some of the smaller scenes are "ok", the scene when they are on the French Plantation is absolutely horrible.

During the making of the film, as captured by "Hearts of Darkness". Coppola even says how horrible the scene is, and this is right after he's called cut and said that none of this would ever make it in the movie.
 
I think a lot of movies are better with the deleted scences in them.

The LOTR triology is so much better in the extended format. Matter of fact I had only watched these movies on DVD format with the extended scences. So, I felt robbed when I watched the theatrical version of one at a friends house. I knew everytime there was a cut.
 
Formy example I'll take Aliens and T2, the cinema cut makes them a standard length movie, very special but not ... long... enough! Add in Mr. Cameron's amazing amounts of additional footage and you turn 1 hour and 45 minute movies into probably the best sci-fi epics (IMO) both going over 2 and a half hours long.

I think adding in the deleted scenes makes the movie so much better. I'm a movie freak but I'll not go wild on this issue. grrr.... the redux of AN is great, could you watch the origonal cut again knowing that your missing some of that awsome journey, I would personally not enjoy it at all, put it off and get the redux.

I'm positive the Terminator 2 ultimate edition is not the full movie, some scenes are cut, correct me if I'm wrong but in all my years of watching that movie "T2-T1000 edition" is by far the greatest cut you'll get. <-- I'm sure this cut is only avail on VHS

The latest terminator 1 you get on dvd (silver colour on the front) has also been edited, sound effects changed and some really violent scenes cut by mabye even just half a second, it still ruins it (it was origonally an 18cert and the dvd is a 15, fucking... whoever changed that and cut it can die a horrid death). Get the origonal VHS (black cover, cinema style poster front cover).
 
all i gotta say is that "donnie darko" directors cut is coming out sometime soon. which should be pretty sweet
 
wanderer21 said:
I think a lot of movies are better with the deleted scences in them.

The LOTR triology is so much better in the extended format. Matter of fact I had only watched these movies on DVD format with the extended scences. So, I felt robbed when I watched the theatrical version of one at a friends house. I knew everytime there was a cut.
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ABSOLUTELY - I agree the LOTR extended trilogy is the best example of extended scenes truly belonging in the film. I fuly expect the extended version of the Return of The King to be my favorite DVD of all time.

There are a number of reasons that directors feel pressured to keep films a certain length and virtually all of them have to do with the almighty $$$ (except of course bladder capacity).

2, two hour films tend to make a lot more money than one four hour film, and theaters can fit in more viewings per day the shorter the film is. Also, parents are far less likely to take children to see films that are over 2 hours long.
 
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