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film: Gothika

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Gothika: what's wrong with it (spoilers)

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Before I get to actual complaints about the movie, I have to give a hearty "fuck you" to whoever was responsible for The Sixth Sense, for effectively launching the chick-horror genre.

Chick-horror is drama with minor gore. Let me sum up the plot of the movie for you: Halle Barry is a psychiatrist who works in a women's asylum with about 10 employees, all of whom have large rings of keys that open every door in the facility. Halle Barry's husband is the director of the facility. There's a big fucking rainstorm and Halle Barry crashes her car after swerving to miss a ghostly Vanishing Hitchhiker type. After she wakes up as a patient in the asylum, she learns she's being charged with killing her husband with an axe. She doesn't remember any of this and there's a fat, balding Sheriff who's especially pissed off at her because he was friends with her dead husband. Then, nothing happens for about an hour until Halle Barry escapes, steals a car, and drives to the scene of the crime (a previous escape attempt involved hiding in her office). Then, after some flashbacks, she drives out to a farmhouse which was mentioned in the first five minutes of the film by her husband while she's still alive. It turns out theres a sex dungeon in the basement of a barn, complete with professional lighting, a digital camera and a king-size bed with restraints (how the fuck did the bed get down the trap door? let's hear it for stagehands!). Turns out her husband was making snuff films, and the phrase "not alone" which appears throughout the movie means he had an accomplice. Guess who it is? It's not Robert Downey Jr. or the other likeable character, a mental patient named Chloe. It's the fat balding Sheriff guy. Halle Barry lights him on fire and shoots him in the head, the end. Oh, and she was given all this information through a series of hallucinations given by the Vanishing Hitchhiker Ghost Chick, who was killed by her husband. And at the end, she sees a small ghostly boy who appears on a "MISSING" poster Halle Barry doesn't see, setting the whole thing up for a sequel.

More complaints:

1. Halle Barry can kill two people in cold blood and get away with it without even the slightest bullshit explanation on part of the movie.

2. If you removed the stuff about ghosts and possession, which isn't scary, you'd have enough time to make a halfway decent psychological thriller movie.

3. You don't have to pay lip service to the horror genre by having random shit jumping out that turns out to be an owl. Or a lampshade. Or a ghost. You get the idea about 20 minutes in the movie that anything supernatural that happens isn't of a malevolent nature, so it just doesn't work.

4. Effective horror takes effort. You can't take a half-baked mystery that's easily solved by shooting a guy and throw in some ghosts and bill it as a horror movie. It's not a horror movie in any way whatsoever, other than the ill-defined chick-horror genre I'm describing. Eh.

My real complaint with Gothika is that it's an okay idea terribly executed. Or maybe I'm just sleep-deprived and don't know what I'm talking about.
 
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I thought it was a steamed rotting pile of shit, I got up to piss about 3/4 of the way through and decided to bolt for the door.
 
Clonazaman said:
I thought it was a steamed rotting pile of shit, I got up to piss about 3/4 of the way through and decided to bolt for the door.

Well, you missed the actual movie, which was crammed into the last 20 minutes for some reason.

It's a good thing I didn't pay to see this.
 
film : Gothika

I personally think this was a great movie. Had strong emotions with great acting. There were some clear pot twist that anyone can predict. The final pot twist was sort of surpising tho, wasnt too unblieveable but kind of far fitch.


Anyone else like this? How about the raining scene with the girl in the middle. Freakkyy....
 
I didn't like this movie one bit. I thought it was so predictable - I seemed to be able to guess what was going to happen next each time. It seemed to lack suspense for me - like a standard plot thriller. Way-way over hyped. IMHO.
 
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I felt werid on the drive home, drove very carfully to avoid seeing that girl. That one mess up scene, where she appears suddenly.

Oohhzz... hold me Halle Berry
 
Did anybody else fall in love with the photography as well? some of the scenes were beautifully lit and shot, the atmosphere was really well established.

What stands out the most in my memory is the opening scene where Halle Berry is talking with Penelope Cruz (Chloe). The way they are in focus and the gauze surounding them to form the gage isn't so when the camera slowly circles around them, the background almost looks alive and fluid. Very nice scene.

The first half is ok with some good shock-moments, but while the first half was good, the second kinda loses its momentum because of the nessecary plot developments which requires everything to tidy up in the end.

Aside from some faults in the story (why would Miranda be locked up in her own prison among her former patients, strikes me as most obvious), i found it a pretty decent horror flick. Scared the shit out of me at times for sure :)
 
Pretty weak...but all right. Halle Berry was a powerhouse in this one...she did a good job. I thought the ending was kind of weird though...it would have been much more interesting if the killer was Robert Downey Jr. and the husband, instead of husband and the sherrif.
And I also wondered why she went to THAT assylum...maybe it was the only one? I dunno...

This movie didn't scare me. The only part that made me jump the tiniest bit is when she is driving in the car and the ghost girl is controlling the car....
 
My friends and I absolutely hated this damn flick. We walked out during like the last 2 minutes because it was so god damn predicatable. The plot was weak as hell, and in one scene I remember even seeing the microphone sticking out. Piss poor movie. One of the worst movies I've seen in a while. Was not scary at all either.

/Rant
 
Dastrix Slogan said:
I didn't like this movie one bit. I thought it was so predictable - I seemed to be able to guess what was going to happen next each time. It seemed to lack suspense for me - like a standard plot thriller. Way-way over hyped. IMHO.

I agree it was predictable although i thought it was a pretty good movie.....the last couple of thrillers I have seen have been predictable but still had a pretty good story line.(Secret Window, Gothika)
 
I couldn't even watch the trailer... the girl was doing a shuffly-I'm-dead-but-I'm-going-be-right-behind-you-in-a-second walk and I can't deal with that sort of shit at all.
 
It freaked me out at the part when halle escapes and looks left and that little girl is like meandering into a doorway. That shit was like whoa.
 
Is it me or did this movie turn out kind of like "What lies beneath"

Personally I did like gothika and I also like what lies beneath but they also did share similar plots and story lines. Gothika was a hell of a lot more intense though while being a lot more predictable also.

Halle berry was outstanding though one of her best roles. I don't think any one else could have played the role better than her.

Gothika gets $$$$ from me.

=D =D =D =D
 
I went to see this on Saturday and it really did just bore me :(

It relied far too heavily on that girls face just appearing everywhere with the appropriate sound effects to make all the girls jump. That shit is just old. I don't mind it happening in films, especially if it's done well, but after about the fourth or fifth time of it, the film just started coming off as a one trick pony.

There were some really nice scenes though. The bit where she was swimming in the swimming pool while the lightening storm was going on was brilliant, but in general, a big thumbs down from me.
 
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