fentanyl laced weed, asking opinions/knowlege

[foodcrisis]

so i was just posting in the invega recovery thread on the dark side of blue light and there is a poster talking about how they lace the hash, and this got confused with actual flower, and there has been a debate about how you can't lace flower with heroin or ketamine cause that's what the news story was supposedly revealing the weed was laced with because of drug tests... i commented how it's probably easy to tell if flower has been tampered with, but honestly, i'm wondering if that's a safe opinion to have.

is it possible to make some type of solution with fentanyl, soak some weed with it, then let it dry out and you'll have fentanyl weed flower? i know this isn't really something most people are going to do or have to deal with, but is it possible? i mean, you never know what's going on in some random countries across the world with people in random drug circles. i don't want to screw any one over having them think it's okay to smoke illegal flower where they are from.... my first thought was just that even with something as small dosed as fentanyl, you'd probably notice it on the flower, but i didn't really think about how some people dose drugs with solution and that could really cut the fentanyl and spread it out over the weed so a person wouldn't notice.

i hate to post this cause soaking weed with fentanyl is a pretty easy thing to do if it's possible, and i don't want to give anyone any ideas. it's so obvious though if it's possible that i don't think this thread would really matter.

 

[MedicinalUser247]

I've heard about weed laced with fentanyl, but it's rare. Most of the time extra added stuff means it cost more. If it does get into your weed it's usually do to cross contamination.

 

[Darksidesam]

If you think about it on a money related basis, by adding something dangerous like fentanyl to weed its absolutely not worth it in terms of profit and consistent income from weed. One of the main advantages of weed over other drugs is its unlikely to kill someone (not impossible because it can affect your judgement if you have too much or in the wrong situation and could cost you your own life and i dare say has cost lives) its a very safe drug to push on
There would be no good incentive

As suggested above , likely as a cross contamination thing but not a purposefully added thing

 

[Egzoset]

Home-grow and/or know your "dealer" like your own mother. No more worries!

 

[foodcrisis]

i'm just wondering if it's possible to lace stuff with out it being noticable...

like some one that takes a gun and goes on a shooting spree is obviously wasting money on the bullets and gun, but it's worth it for them to kill people.

i remember when i was in high school, if someone didn't like someone or wanted to be funny, they would lie about what a pill was and give it to someone as a joke. there are some messed up people around there. i'm just wondering if it's possible to lace stuff, not if it's a common thing or whatever. from what i understand there isn't a lot of news stories about fentanyl laced weed that are legit.

 

[Egzoset]

...there are some messed up people around there.

ZERO former "dealer" ever carried a firearm in my home and i allowed none any more than i would ingest pills from strangers encountered in some dark alley.

...just wondering if it's possible to lace stuff...

Halloween is just 1 month away, so be patient as it returns every single year!

In the meantime lets have fun, try this search in YouTube:

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Why does it return? Ma$$-media$ makes money raining from the sky by providing an ideal platform for those weirdoes you've mentioned. Etc., etc.

Now please lets enjoy this nice complement of answer:











That's about a precious gift of dame Nature and it's unique because if we look closely it becomes quite obvious such near-perfect structural beauty cannot suffer much manipulation without traces of tampering being permanently registered: it's like an encrypted lock, attention will focus on those who dare play with it. So get a microscope people!

...from what i understand there isn't a lot of news stories about fentanyl laced weed that are legit.

In the end the true poison comes from socio-toxic 3rd-party attitudes, EASY MONEY above all else. Then of course other human sicknesses of the mind while always blaming "Indian Hemp"/"Cannabis sativa L." without any fair sense of proportions...

In short, if the plant and its "fruit" were a religion then blasphemy would require punishment of so many "criminals" this could very well cause some major logistic problem trying to protect society! Amen.

 

[Jeebis2]

Just like all of the flower that's sprayed with terps or distillate, the same can be done with fent


However, there'd be pretty much 0 reason to do intentionally

 

[Egzoset]

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After all those years there's got to be at least 1 single fentanyl snapshot posted for Halloween somewhere. Just show me!

 

[Esperighanto]

In the northeastern US right now fent is essentially a memory, nobody can get their hands on it in the first place without ending up with some -zene or Bentley compound instead. Fent also vaporizes at a temp ~4 times lower than THC and burns very easily. Maybe it's different elsewhere, but right here right now this is what's going on in the northeast megalopolis, at least.

 

[foodcrisis]

i was just wondering if it's possible.. a lot of people say the fentanyl will be destroyed with the heat of the lighter, but i hear about people smoking pills pretty common. so i was uncertain about that...

i also think it's pretty wild people believe MK ultra literature and stuff, but wouldn't put it past any groups to lace some weed with something to create a big scare... doesn't seem like anything to reasonably be worried about though. probably have more of a chance of dying in an accident just going out.

 

[Esperighanto]

i was just wondering if it's possible.. a lot of people say the fentanyl will be destroyed with the heat of the lighter, but i hear about people smoking pills pretty common. so i was uncertain about that...

i also think it's pretty wild people believe MK ultra literature and stuff, but wouldn't put it past any groups to lace some weed with something to create a big scare... doesn't seem like anything to reasonably be worried about though. probably have more of a chance of dying in an accident just going out.

MKUltra is just factual history, there were a ton of records destroyed and there's a lot of misinformation surrounding it but Sidney Gottlieb's impacts on the world through the power structures of the CIA are undeniably real.

The only places I've run into laced weed here in the east coast of the US is when I'm out on the streets buying spice, intentionally. So many people have told me that they've smoked laced weed, almost always on their first encounter with cannabis, but then proceed just describe getting uncomfortably high, but they have such a tough time blaming cannabis it's always got to be "PCP" or "DMT" as if the experiences are even remotely comparable.

It's possible to spray fent on cannabis, it wouldn't achieve much. Occasionally people (especially where cannabis is scarce) run into CBD bud that's been sprayed down with either normal THC distillate, or with synthetic cannabinoids. I enjoy both personally, but the former is significantly less toxic and more widely tolerated than the latter. Fentanyl is destroyed by the heat of a lighter, it's why you see people smoke their dirty thirties off of foil like heroin or hydrocodone, because you've got to baby that molecule from a solid state into a vapor without burning it essentially. It's quite tactless compared to the art of swirling methamphetamine oil around a single point of heat in a bulb pipe, in my opinion.

Edit: Forgot to mention that "conversion oil" is also prevalent in these contexts, essentially just isomerized delta 8 that's become some amount delta 9, yet due to the reaction almost never completing all the way, some amount of delta 8 remains. People are scared of it for ridiculous reasons imo, the citric acid (or whatever other acids that are being used as a catalyst) are far less likely to make it to the end product than I think people realize, and even if they do, I'm still more concerned about the pyrolysis products of the lignin and various fibers and shit plants are made out of, I'd much prefer THCa diamonds pure through an enail honestly.

 

[Quasimoto]

MK Ultra was real and just as bad as a lot of the conspiracists say, if not worse. Of course, with any mythical urban legend like that, it's not all true... but in the case of MK Ultra most of it. I say that as a person who is generally very critical and mocking of conspiracist type people.

I'm sure that some idiot out there has attempted to lace weed with fent, in very obscure, amateur, isolated incidents. But it definitely is no concern for anyone. It's a stupid idea on several levels.

If there was a story about weed testing positive for fent, it was almost certainly a false positive from incidental trace contamination, which is extremely common.

 

[foodcrisis]

thanks for the info... so it sounds like fentanyl has to be smoked a certain way from poster Esperhiganto's post mentions and that's a different method than smoking weed... i've heard that other places too.

i'm gonna guess the only reason why weed isn't laced with fentanyl is because it doesn't burn right... also not really economical to lace a lot of weed like that, but people do do fucked up stuff..

also PS... sorry if i already made this post... i def already talked about this on here, but maybe didn't make a thread... i should remember this now.

 

[Phobos]

It's possible to spray fent on cannabis, it wouldn't achieve much. Occasionally people (especially where cannabis is scarce) run into CBD bud that's been sprayed down with either normal THC distillate, or with synthetic cannabinoids. I enjoy both personally, but the former is significantly less toxic and more widely tolerated than the latter. Fentanyl is destroyed by the heat of a lighter, it's why you see people smoke their dirty thirties off of foil like heroin or hydrocodone, because you've got to baby that molecule from a solid state into a vapor without burning it essentially. It's quite tactless compared to the art of swirling methamphetamine oil around a single point of heat in a bulb pipe, in my opinion.

I think that while it would be wasteful, Fent laced weed would still be a viable way of consuming Fentanyl.

Yes, the lighter will burn the Fent in the tip of the joint, and the actively burning plant matter will also destroy it, but I'm convinced that right behind the part of the spliff that's burning, there would be an area hot enough to vaporise the fentanyl, at least partially.

So you'd be inhaling smoke from the tip of the spliff and getting some Fent vapor from let's say a 1/8 or 1/4 of an inch or so behind the tip.

 

[foodcrisis]

I think that while it would be wasteful, Fent laced weed would still be a viable way of consuming Fentanyl.

Yes, the lighter will burn the Fent in the tip of the joint, and the actively burning plant matter will also destroy it, but I'm convinced that right behind the part of the spliff that's burning, there would be an area hot enough to vaporise the fentanyl, at least partially.

So you'd be inhaling smoke from the tip of the spliff and getting some Fent vapor from let's say a 1/8 or 1/4 of an inch or so behind the tip.

oh good response. thanks.

so i mean it's so unlikely to get fentanyl laced weed... it just seems weird people say it never would happen... like i said, a person probably has more of a chance in getting in an accident or getting hurt just going to the store or whatever... i'm not sure how i would feel about this if i were buying illegal weed still. in my high school kids would definitely give people drugs and lie about it just to cause drama, so i don't put it past people any where to do fucked up stuff... if i were still buying illegal weed, the possibility of getting laced would put a damper on it, but probably wouldn't stop me... i feel like a person would have to be targeted for this to happen, whether that be high schoolers just fucking with another person or some government agency that wanted to get a response from the media or whatever... i don't think kids in high school would really have uncut fentanyl to lace weed with anyways, so that's a good thing. thinking there are sections of the government that would lace weed to start a media scare is also pretty bizarre thinking too, but with some stuff i've heard about MK ultra and supposedly the CIA were responsible for drug trade in the past... i actually conspire there are secret parts of the government that were into distributing drugs and it this point now, they just let cartels do it, so they don't get cought... but i mean, this is all me totally talking out of my ass from what maybe conspiracy theories i heard.

 

[Phobos]

oh good response. thanks.

so i mean it's so unlikely to get fentanyl laced weed... it just seems weird people say it never would happen... like i said, a person probably has more of a chance in getting in an accident or getting hurt just going to the store or whatever... i'm not sure how i would feel about this if i were buying illegal weed still. in my high school kids would definitely give people drugs and lie about it just to cause drama, so i don't put it past people any where to do fucked up stuff... if i were still buying illegal weed, the possibility of getting laced would put a damper on it, but probably wouldn't stop me... i feel like a person would have to be targeted for this to happen, whether that be high schoolers just fucking with another person or some government agency that wanted to get a response from the media or whatever... i don't think kids in high school would really have uncut fentanyl to lace weed with anyways, so that's a good thing. thinking there are sections of the government that would lace weed to start a media scare is also pretty bizarre thinking too, but with some stuff i've heard about MK ultra and supposedly the CIA were responsible for drug trade in the past... i actually conspire there are secret parts of the government that were into distributing drugs and it this point now, they just let cartels do it, so they don't get cought... but i mean, this is all me totally talking out of my ass from what maybe conspiracy theories i heard.

Agree with this, I don't think Fent laced weed is something that is being sold anywhere, you'd have a massive amount of reports of people ending up in the hospital or dying from smoking it while unaware.
I think the lab reports that started the media reports on it were caused by dealers not cleaning their table between making bags of fent and then weed.

 

[emkee_reinvented]

Well if they can put Salbutamol in the soil they grow Tobacco, or a bit less morbid Menthol.
As according to law its no longer allowed to add additives directly, so lets put it in the ground, loop hole found.
but adding medication thats used to expand the lungs, hope it was just that nurse her fantasy/ believe, not reality.

but anything is possible. But fentanyl/ Etinazenes [new danger] in everything is stupid and ridiculiously dangerous.
Myself having had tainted Weed. With or residues of artifical fertilizers, pesticides or whatever inactive shit was in it.
It got the Quicksilver vaporized [probably a chemical reaction] from my Amalgan fillings.
East european Weed was doing the rounds att.
If that was the culprit is a guess off course, at least someone was fucking weed.

Lab testing and legalisation only solution. Simple. Over here they had the legal Swiss Weed.
Contains CBD and max 1% THC ? They sprayed synthoids on it and street dealers sold that.
Afaik not coffeeshops. At least 1 shop i know off has there stuff, illegaly, lab tested for shit.

Smoking, selling is illegal but tolerated. Growing, the shop buying it or having it tested plain illegal.

 

[Egzoset]

...lets put it in the ground... ...anything is possible.

Although it's true a cannabis plant will pump water from the soil there happens to be a secretion gland separating the trichome's noble molecules from its body. Maybe this filtering action ain't perfect but i'd still want to see any study proving such transfer as what the partial quote suggests above... Similarily, mushroom grow best on decaying biological matter and yet it doesn't taste like shit, which is no miracle. It only confirms why we feed ourselves on the living, because lifeforms are directed by their genes to act like natural filters, specializing in concentration of molecules in some preferential basis.

Lab testing and legalisation only solution. Simple.

None of it is equivalent to an absolute truth. There are 500+ "sanitory additives", legal and illegal, and no lab testing can screen them all in good time at a commercially viable cost, not to mention in Canada and quite likely elsewhere too this is combined to a NON-DETECTION concept where previously BANNED Pest Control Products can now be declared safe as "traces" (calling us "chemophobics" if we dare ask sensitive questions). While they're looking for peaks we still await for long-term studies on the cocktail effects of synergy-boosted savvy recipes, designed to PA$$ such testing and yet repel insects as a result of the stinch that can be perceived by their sensitive antennas. And since living organisms may also concentrate these poisons selectively, as you suggested, one could wonder then what happens if/when we smoke this at a repetitive rate, all year long for decades... So, no, nothing really "simple" nor a definitive "solution". At least nothing which actually compares to the safety & confidence of home grows.

At least 1 shop i know of has their stuff, illegally...

M'well this only proves one main objective behind so-called « legaleezation », conceived by bigot prohibitionni$ts simply to please their siblings: to destroy confidence among the consumers, especially now that new strange illnesses emerge like "CHS", conveniently blaming a noble plant featured with an exemplary past as old as human civilizations...

To top it all, lets not forget the additional CONFUSION mixing totally different public health issues as combustion and dosing abuse spirals associated to ritual. It's no hazard the 2014 FCTC/COP6 onusian report was put together in Moscow/Russia, specifically the sections 4.4.1, 4.4.2 and 4.4.3 relative to e-Cig$, vaporizer$ and water pipe$. Contemplate the outcome 10 years later!

 

[emkee_reinvented]

Although it's true a cannabis plant will pump water from the soil there happens to be a secretion gland separating the trichome's noble molecules from its body. Maybe this filtering action ain't perfect but i'd still want to see any study proving such transfer as what the partial quote suggests above... Similarily, mushroom grow best on decaying biological matter and yet it doesn't taste like shit, which is no miracle. It only confirms why we feed ourselves on the living, because lifeforms are directed by their genes to act like natural filters, specializing in concentration of molecules in some preferential basis.



None of it is equivalent to an absolute truth. There are 500+ "sanitory additives", legal and illegal, and no lab testing can screen them all in good time at a commercially viable cost, not to mention in Canada and quite likely elsewhere too this is combined to a NON-DETECTION concept where previously BANNED Pest Control Products can now be declared safe as "traces" (calling us "chemophobics" if we dare ask sensitive questions). While they're looking for peaks we still await for long-term studies on the cocktail effects of synergy-boosted savvy recipes, designed to PA$$ such testing and yet repel insects as a result of the stinch that can be perceived by their sensitive antennas. And since living organisms may also concentrate these poisons selectively, as you suggested, one could wonder then what happens if/when we smoke this at a repetitive rate, all year long for decades... So, no, nothing really "simple" nor a definitive "solution". At least nothing which actually compares to the safety & confidence of home grows.



M'well this only proves one main objective behind so-called « legaleezation », conceived by bigot prohibitionni$ts simply to please their siblings: to destroy confidence among the consumers, especially now that new strange illnesses emerge like "CHS", conveniently blaming a noble plant featured with an exemplary past as old as human civilizations...

To top it all, lets not forget the additional CONFUSION mixing totally different public health issues as combustion and dosing abuse spirals associated to ritual. It's no hazard the 2014 FCTC/COP6 onusian report was put together in Moscow/Russia, specifically the sections 4.4.1, 4.4.2 and 4.4.3 relative to e-Cig$, vaporizer$ and water pipe$. Contemplate the outcome 10 years later!

Was about the Tobacco was a nurses story. No way to no it true. But that they now put the additives in the soil.
Menthol also Salbutamol, a medication that expands lung capacity for asthmatics. Cleaver thinking.

Not really integer.

You know Linosil, the forbidden pesticide. Its now in your home true your pets so called anti flee/ tick whatever drops/ pills/ bands.
A substance that has proven to affect mainly minors behaviour and later fertility. Thats fucked, as healthy animals don t have flees, and who checks how much is in the product. no one !

And for Cannabis vs Tobacco. its known to clean up soil from pollutants. Uncoontrolled Weed can contain PFAS, PAHs, Glyphosate etc.
Grown in my garden would deem it unfit for human consumption, and unfit for my green waste basket.

Just discoverd the particles produced by Weed/ Herb vape are as dangerous as smoked. So another scientific debate.

 

[DeathIndustrial88]

I'm doubtful that weed would get laced with fentanyl.

I mean, if you put fentanyl all over some one's weed, it sounds like a sure way to cause them to OD.
A non tolerant person only needs a tiny couple specks of fent dust to feel it. So how would you even put something that small on weed without dousing it in the stuff? Which would probably cause an OD from smoking one bowl (if enough of the fent vaporizes & enters your bloodstream).

Sounds like a waste of time, drugs & not worth the risk of potentially accidentally killing some one.