(Mods, not sure if this goes to North/South America or Dark Side or Other Drugs or what. But this is a warning that will hopefully save some lives. Yes it's mostly a cut and paste from my reply in the thread linked below, but I felt people from NYC would ignore the other one and the risk! Please put it where it will do the most good.)
This was reportedly going around Detroit recently (and several BLers and many others may have died), and it just showed up in NYC. At least 1 ER visit I know of so far. It seems Marquis tests are very obviously showing NO heroin content (no trace of purple), so test kits would be a good idea!
I was able to get some info through people close to the near OD case. Multiple reagent tests (after the fact, unfortunately) were really really weird. After lots of puzzling they figured out it wasn't fentanyl laced heroin. It's fentanyl cut with passionflower. Or something that I'm told smells exactly like a bottle of passionflower extract from a vitamin store they grabbed to compare to it and also shows up positive for harmine on test kits. Matches the color and texture too I'm told (described as like oatmeal), except for white flecks in the bad stuff that aren't in passionflower capsules (likely fentanyl according to firsthand effect reports and color charts). No heroin in it according to any test or source. Test colors are all over the place from the active alkaloids in the plants, but it's definitely not heroin.
From what I've been told it may fool a Mecke test (green/blue, most common heroin test now) but it's not even close on the older Marquis reagent (fizzes, yellow, heroin would be red turning purple). My personal theory is someone probably went through a GNC till they found something that turned about the right color on the more common test and then used that as the bulk of it mixed with the fentanyl to create the required volume.
Not sure if this exactly matches what was in Detroit but this stuff is bad and potentially avoidable if people test for it. Note the person who went to the ER reported that the onset of fentanyl OD symptoms were delayed by almost 2 hours so small test dosages are not likely to prove safe!
This was reportedly going around Detroit recently (and several BLers and many others may have died), and it just showed up in NYC. At least 1 ER visit I know of so far. It seems Marquis tests are very obviously showing NO heroin content (no trace of purple), so test kits would be a good idea!
I was able to get some info through people close to the near OD case. Multiple reagent tests (after the fact, unfortunately) were really really weird. After lots of puzzling they figured out it wasn't fentanyl laced heroin. It's fentanyl cut with passionflower. Or something that I'm told smells exactly like a bottle of passionflower extract from a vitamin store they grabbed to compare to it and also shows up positive for harmine on test kits. Matches the color and texture too I'm told (described as like oatmeal), except for white flecks in the bad stuff that aren't in passionflower capsules (likely fentanyl according to firsthand effect reports and color charts). No heroin in it according to any test or source. Test colors are all over the place from the active alkaloids in the plants, but it's definitely not heroin.
From what I've been told it may fool a Mecke test (green/blue, most common heroin test now) but it's not even close on the older Marquis reagent (fizzes, yellow, heroin would be red turning purple). My personal theory is someone probably went through a GNC till they found something that turned about the right color on the more common test and then used that as the bulk of it mixed with the fentanyl to create the required volume.
Not sure if this exactly matches what was in Detroit but this stuff is bad and potentially avoidable if people test for it. Note the person who went to the ER reported that the onset of fentanyl OD symptoms were delayed by almost 2 hours so small test dosages are not likely to prove safe!
