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Feds to Prosecute Distribution, Possession if Prop 19 Passes

SAN FRANCISCO — Attorney General Eric Holder is warning that the federal government will not look the other way, as it has with medical marijuana, if voters next month make California the first state to legalize pot.

Marijuana is illegal under federal law, which drug agents will "vigorously enforce" against anyone carrying, growing or selling it, Holder said.

The comments in a letter to ex-federal drug enforcement chiefs were the attorney general's most direct statement yet against Proposition 19 and set up another showdown with California over marijuana if the measure passes.

With Prop 19 leading in the polls, the letter also raised questions about the extent to which federal drug agents would go into communities across the state to catch small-time users and dealers, or whether they even had the resources to do it.

Medical marijuana users and experts were skeptical, saying there was little the federal government could do to slow the march to legalization.

"This will be the new industry," said Chris Nelson, 24, who smokes pot to ease recurring back pain and was lined up outside a San Francisco dispensary. "It's taxable new income. So many tourists will flock here like they go to Napa. This will become the new Amsterdam."

If the ballot measure passes, the state would regulate recreational pot use. Adults could possess up to one ounce of the drug and grow small gardens on private property. Local governments would decide whether to allow and tax sales.

The Justice Department remains committed to enforcing the Controlled Substances Act in all states, Holder said.

"We will vigorously enforce the CSA against those individuals and organizations that possess, manufacture or distribute marijuana for recreational use, even if such activities are permitted under state law," he wrote.
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http://www.activistpost.com/2010/10/feds-to-prosecute-distribution.html
 
A lot of people have been freaking out about this but you need to remember this isn't something new. The feds can do the same thing with medical marijuana patients but supposedly under Prop 19 local authorities can't report any marijuana related cases to the federal government.

So unless your illegally selling pounds of weed and you're the head of a huge drug cartel then the feds won't get involved.

But hmm....didn't Obama say he wasn't going to go after the marijuana smokers? >.>
 
Roose said:
A lot of people have been freaking out about this but you need to remember this isn't something new. The feds can do the same thing with medical marijuana patients but supposedly under Prop 19 local authorities can't report any marijuana related cases to the federal government.

So unless your illegally selling pounds of weed and you're the head of a huge drug cartel then the feds won't get involved.

But hmm....didn't Obama say he wasn't going to go after the marijuana smokers? >.>
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i wish hed at least have kept with his view in this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQr9ezr8UeA
that would be awesome, at least better the social quo
 
I hope that prop 19 passes and the feds enforce their laws "vigorously" as they threaten. That will force a national agenda on whether marijuana ought to be illegal at the federal level too.
 
Roose said:
A lot of people have been freaking out about this but you need to remember this isn't something new.
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My thoughts exactly.

The DEA are the real issue at play here IMO - it's like a fucking shadow government. This is nothing new at all.

and FYI - Obama has relaxed prosecution for cannabis in several ways. The latest mag of High Times (MMJ edition) has a lengthy article regarding the changes he has made. Obama does not control the DEA, however. It' functions outside of normal government and is basically unconstitutional in every way. The fact that it still exists is just baffling.
 
So basically the feds will refuse to recognize democracy? I'd like to think that this kind of corruption would be impossible but we will find out soon enough (if prop 19 passes).
That said, here in Australia I am quite envious of those getting to live in California and not just because it's such a cool place without weed.
 
chainer3k said:
and FYI - Obama has relaxed prosecution for cannabis in several ways. The latest mag of High Times (MMJ edition) has a lengthy article regarding the changes he has made.
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Sorry to go off topic, is there a MMJ issue now alongside the regular edition?

Back to prop 19.....
 
chainer3k said:
Obama does not control the DEA, however. It' functions outside of normal government and is basically unconstitutional in every way. The fact that it still exists is just baffling.
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and yet, nobody in the many branches of government or without seems to be raising an issue with extrajudicial paramilitary wings of government. only in america?
 
So if local governments collect taxes from ganja sales, aren't they participating in the illegal activity? Are the feds going to come after cities too?

Compared to getting a card in the current system, prop. 19 actually grants you less rights. However, I really want to see it pass just to force the issue.

In other news, what the hell is wrong with people? The amount of ignorance surrounding ganja is alarming.
 
I know there are a few prop19 threads atm but I have had this sneaking suspicion things might go horribly wrong if it's passed...

So what I think will happen is that it will be legalized then there will be some massive problems with big dealers sourcing all their stuff from Cali and then people will start reporting how "its destroying all other parts of the country because its so easy to get now" then it will make weed look really bad and be one of those "we told you so" things and the conservative fucks will ride that wave hard. Wouldnt be suprised if this was all part of the master plan...
Sorry to be so cynical but I just wanted to run this idea by people to see if someone can hopefully put me at ease (even though I live in Australia and it has no effect on me, I just want everybody to be happy :D )
 
I have had this sneaking suspicion things might go horribly wrong if it's passed...

So what I think will happen is that it will be legalized then there will be some massive problems with big dealers sourcing all their stuff from Cali and then people will start reporting how "its destroying all other parts of the country because its so easy to get now" then it will make weed look really bad and be one of those "we told you so" things and the conservative fucks will ride that wave hard. Wouldnt be suprised if this was all part of the master plan...
Sorry to be so cynical but I just wanted to run this idea by people to see if someone can hopefully put me at ease (even though I live in Australia and it has no effect on me, I just want everybody to be happy :D )
 
I'm too lazy to link/find the article but I saw on the AP blackberry app an article today saying the opposite. The resources aren't there, I know the dea is fucking nuts but california is f'n huge and the more reefer madness dies down (and it will) the public won't take kindly to the feds getting involved.

It doesn't make sense. IMHO it would be like stoking the flame of revolution....especially with the shitty economy. I know we americans can be lazy but the disdain for the federal gov't is only growing and I can't see this working out well for the dea in any possible way.
 
Well all i know is hopefully it still passes as a first step, let the feds spent countless taxpayer dollars yet once again on a hopeless cause which to them they classify as protecting the people.. right
 
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I think that the feds realize that the majority of people in america either want marijuana to be legalized or wouldn't care if it was legalized and I agree that if they step in on prop 19 that it will just push the issue and bring it to the forefront and that a national measure will be passed, this is a really big game changer and i must say i'm really, really interested in the outcome of it :)
 
The mayor of Denver kicked that jackass out of Colorado once before, I'm sure he'll do it again.

We have a bill going in next year to outright legalize marijuana for those 21+ with no restrictions except how much you can grow and you can not distribute for profit unless you have a license to do so (basically they're going to turn all of the MMJ facilities into distribution points).

But Colorado has some of the highest populations of smokers in the USA. Ironic considering we are also considered the healthiest state in the nation. It is estimated that the city of Boulder consists of 80% of the population 16+ having smoked now or in the past and as much as 75% being active smokers. Denver, the numbers were more like 65% from 16+ now or in the past and as much as 70% being active smokers. The suburbs were off the charts with Lakewood having the highest incidence - 90% of those 16+ had smoked and 80% were active smokers.

Its been decriminalized here in Colorado since November of 2000 where you just get a 100 dollar fine in the court room and no record (its a "petty offense") for possession of up to 1 ounce. However if you were smoking in public, you can be put in jail for three days and given a misdemeanor.

Two years ago, it was "legalized" in Denver for those 21+ but the cops actually made more arrests for marijuana after the bill passed than they ever did before so really it was just a FUD bill - but a step in the right direction.

Cali's bill I don't like so much but any step from a major state towards full-blown legalization is a good one.
 
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