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Fear of intimacy

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When I was younger i always described myself as asexual, I'm not sure why. But when I started using drugs I became sexual active and the idea of physical intimacy didn't repulse me. Problem is, I'm 19 now and I have never experienced physical intimacy while sober. I had my first sober experience tonight and while nothing really happened, the way he looked at me and his touching me just repulsed me. Granted I'm not all that attracted to him but he's the same guy I would give suck off in a heartbeat if I was under the influence.

I have had one experience of unwanted sexual advances but that happened not too long ago and I'm pretty sure i felt this way long before that happened. I even remember how my younger self had an innate fear of being abused/raped by people I should've been able to trust, despite having no reason not to trust them. But now if i'm sober and a guy looks at my body I feel horrible, like I'm not even a human to them. And I don't thinks it's a case of having low self-esteem, I know that I'm marginally above-average looking. Also, I've never had any desire to have a romantic relationship with anyone and the only instance where I feel genuine sexual attraction while sober is when watching porn.

Any ideas why this is the case? Is this normal? Am I asexual or is this something I can change?
 
Asexuality is not being repulsed by intimacy, it's being indifferent to it.

You may just have repressed issues stemming from your experience when you were younger. It's normal for a woman to hate her body and not want anyone to see them naked.

Have you ever seen a therapist about your intimacy issues?
 
The thing is, I like my body and I know I have a good figure so it's not that I have a problem with people seeing me naked.. I just don't like being touched and I get nothing from sexual experiences at all. Also, these feelings existed prior to the experience I had when I was younger. I am currently seeing a therapist for my depression but I don't find it all that helpful.
 
I have always felt very similar to how you feel.

I'm a 22 year old male, and I've always kind of shunned intimacy. I've always been an introvert. I think that the only reason I developed as many friend as I had in highschool, was because I began smoking weed/drinking/partying. I never liked hugs, at all. Even as a young child, my parents tell me that I used to kind of shrug away when they would try to give me a hug or a kiss. I don't know why, but whenever someone tells me they love me (my mom for example) I kind of get mad, because I wish they wouldn't do that. I don't even like psychological intimacy. The first time I had sex I was 17, but that was only because she approached me outgoingly, and I thought why the hell not. If I tell my friends I'm not a virgin anymore they will think I'm somewhat normal. I was sober, and it wasn't all that great. I had a hard time keeping my interest (and she was a pretty girl, better than what most of my friends would get) I have never really been interested in sex I guess. I don't watch porn or anything, because it disgusts me.

Going through my late highschool years and earlier college years, I liked to party a lot with a group of male friends. They would all hook up with girls all of the time, and trust me they weren't the best looking. I'm not trying to be arrogant.. but I know I am above average looking because I've been praised for exceptional looks my whole life (which has always pissed me off, I honestly hate when someone complements me on how I look), but anyways, I would never hook up with any girls at parties even when they made advances towards me, and my friends all thought it was strange.

I was once convinced that I was asexual, but then I entered into a few year relationship with a girl and I realized that I am infact attracted to women. I recognize that even now.

I've analyzed the way I think in the past few years. I've realized that being praised for good looks my whole life has effected me in some way subconsciously, and I think that I probably just have really high standards for girlfriends/sexual partners because of that. I just don't understand how some of my friends could hook up with some of the girls that they have, and be proud of it/enjoyed it. I'll admit I have had a few one night stands while drunk or high on something, and I enjoyed it very much then, and thinking back now I think it was awesome. When I'm sober, there are very few people who I could see myself with, or could be attracted to. If I ever become attracted to a girl, it's at the initial sighting of her. I know right away if I think a girl is hot just by looking at her, but when I ever get closer to a girl, that attraction quickly fades away and I become disgusted about something, or grossed out. Porn is disgusting, and undignified, I just can't even watch it, AND I'm a young male..

I love the feeling, or the idea of sex, cause trust me I still have my instinctual urges.. but when push comes to shove and I know that I can have sexual relations with a girl that has given me all the signals, I will most likely not go for it. I have my own little bubble that I don't like people coming into, or getting to close. I can admire the way a girl looks from a distance, and think she's beautiful, but when the clothes come off there is something about that that turns me off.

Like I said I don't even really like becoming psychologically intimate with a girl and opening up to her, but I feel that the only way I could willingly have sex with her and enjoy every bit of it, is if I first become mentally and psychologically open with her, and kind of become boyfriend/girlfriend without anything physical.. and this has to be for a small extended period of time before I really know that I like her. From my experience, this is just how things work with me. I may not be sexually attracted to the girl, so to speak, when we begin getting to get close to each other mentally, but I will still be attracted to the way she looks and think she's hot, just not in a sexual way. I feel that over a month or two of a sexless relationship, and I really start to like her, that's when I really start burning inside and could really have sex with her all day and night.
I'm speaking from past experience in that paragraph above, and I think that's how it works for me I guess.
If I really don't like the girl as a person, I probably won't have sex with her because there's something that's just not attractive about her to me. Like I said before, I've gotten drunk before, or high on X before, and had a one night stand with a girl. It's happened, only a handful of times though. When I'm sober though, and I usually am, there is something about being that close to someone, seeing them up close, or feeling their touch or seeing them naked (even if they're good looking), smelling their breath, or having them touch me that makes me cringe, and turns me off.
Since I'm so introverted, I'm always in my own head thinking.. and the thought of having to ever share my thoughts and open up with someone else ever again is kind of frightening on a psychological level. I guess that somehow effects the way I am physically attracted to people too.

I'm no psychologist or anything.. but I'd guess that you probably need to become mentally attached to someone, and really like them, to become sexually attracted to them sober. That's how I am at least.

Sorry if that was a long ramble, but I took my prescribed adderall a little later than usual and finished up some work rather ahead of schedule, and the medicine was still in full effect. I just felt like I could relate a lot to what you typed, and I haven't heard anyone else express something that similar to what I have been feeling most of my life.
 
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Obviously you don't have to answer this because it's a public forum, but were you abused when you were younger?
Possibly even a time that you don't remember because your sub-conscience is making you block it out?
 
I definitely wouldn't call you asexual.
I agree with ILYWAK's question - there must have been some sort of trigger when you were little that gave you such a fear of being raped etc. Not that it isn't a rational fear, it obviously is, but not to a point where it would hinder your actions I would think, unless something happened. This could be as apparently insignificant as I don't know, coming across violent porn or seeing a rape scene in a film when you were too young to really process it, or something.
If something did happen and it's indeed being repressed into your subconscious, that would explain why you can only be okay with sex when using drugs, since drugs tend to lift the barrier between conscious/subconscious and well, any kind of mental block really.

Regarding feeling like you're not even human when a guy looks at you - there could be several reasons for that, the most obvious ones being 1. not feeling good about how you look (you mentioned you 'know' you look good, but do you actually believe so yourself?) and 2. not feeling valued as you should be/feeling entirely objectified. I've got a friend who is just absolutely convinced that any guy who is interested in her is so because of her body/for sex. She can't even imagine that someone might actually be attracted to her as a person, and it definitely makes her feel like you've just described.
 
something about this doesn't sound right.

fear of being raped/abused for no reason must have come from somewhere.

all fears begin in an experience.

for instance my fear of wasps goes back to a dog eating a wasps nest in ireland as a child and everyone running into the house with wasps in the womens hair.

everything has a beggining
 
Thanks for all of your responses. To be honest, I never thought that my attitude towards physical intimacy was that odd but the more I think about it the more I see how abnormal it is.

I think Pagey probably has the most accurate understanding of what I'm experiencing.

I definitely wouldn't call you asexual.
I agree with ILYWAK's question - there must have been some sort of trigger when you were little that gave you such a fear of being raped etc. Not that it isn't a rational fear, it obviously is, but not to a point where it would hinder your actions I would think, unless something happened. This could be as apparently insignificant as I don't know, coming across violent porn or seeing a rape scene in a film when you were too young to really process it, or something.
If something did happen and it's indeed being repressed into your subconscious, that would explain why you can only be okay with sex when using drugs, since drugs tend to lift the barrier between conscious/subconscious and well, any kind of mental block really.

Regarding feeling like you're not even human when a guy looks at you - there could be several reasons for that, the most obvious ones being 1. not feeling good about how you look (you mentioned you 'know' you look good, but do you actually believe so yourself?) and 2. not feeling valued as you should be/feeling entirely objectified. I've got a friend who is just absolutely convinced that any guy who is interested in her is so because of her body/for sex. She can't even imagine that someone might actually be attracted to her as a person, and it definitely makes her feel like you've just described.

The bit I highlighted in bold applies to me the most. Although at the same time, I might also suffer from low self-esteem regarding my appearance. Afterall, I did suffer from a minor eating disorder for over two years when I was younger. In a way I think my aversion to sexual intimacy is a response to growing up. Also, I remember when I was around 15 I had this innate desire to be genderless. Strange, I know, but I kept feeling like my sexuality was holding me back and it kinda disgusted me.

I think my experience of unwanted touching (happened two years ago) has probably worsened my opinion of men and of sexuality in general. I'm seeing a therapist for depression but I don't know whether or not I should bring this up.
 
I absolutely think you should bring your experience up! It's possible it has something to do with your depression. Even if it turns out it's unrelated, it can't hurt to mention it.

I wouldn't worry about your aversion to intimacy. I'm similar to you in a way. Even as a young sapling, I hated kisses (my mom used to try that shit) and I've been told by many friends that I tense up when they hug me. I don't want people standing too close to me, either. I know I was never abused. I simply don't want a relationship, ever.
 
Fear of intimacy is fear of vulnerability.

Hone in on why you think being vulnerable means being weak. They are not the same thing. If you resolve that then you're home free.
 
Thanks for all of your responses. To be honest, I never thought that my attitude towards physical intimacy was that odd but the more I think about it the more I see how abnormal it is.

I think Pagey probably has the most accurate understanding of what I'm experiencing.



The bit I highlighted in bold applies to me the most. Although at the same time, I might also suffer from low self-esteem regarding my appearance. Afterall, I did suffer from a minor eating disorder for over two years when I was younger. In a way I think my aversion to sexual intimacy is a response to growing up. Also, I remember when I was around 15 I had this innate desire to be genderless. Strange, I know, but I kept feeling like my sexuality was holding me back and it kinda disgusted me.

I think my experience of unwanted touching (happened two years ago) has probably worsened my opinion of men and of sexuality in general. I'm seeing a therapist for depression but I don't know whether or not I should bring this up.

I think that makes complete sense - the accumulation of low self-esteem, feelings of objectification, unwanted touching and eating disorders could do this to anyone.
I do know a fair amount of girls who have similar feelings, although maybe not to the same extent, and they are all the result of similar events.
Regarding the unwanted touching - have you mentioned this to anyone/come to terms with it? As in, have you dealt with your emotions, fears etc. regarding what happened? This would probably have had a very big influence on your behaviour today. I was raped a bit under a year ago and it's definitely changed the way I act around others. Although it luckily never made me averse to sex, for a few months afterwards I needed to be in complete control whenever I did have sex or I would absolutely freak out. That's all better now, completely back to normal but I still have a problem with people touching me for instance - in any way, like even just accidentally brushing against me in the street. I mean I can't even give my mum a hug. It's very weird because the only people 'allowed' to touch me now are either very close friends or guys I'm sleeping with. But I digress, the point is - don't ignore how that experience might have affected you, and don't think that you need to be this way with others or that it's something you can't change about yourself. Therapy and exploring all my feelings regarding what had happened, as well as how I felt about myself in general (also had an eating disorder a few years ago etc.) just made me so much more comfortable with everything.
Finally, the objectification aspect - unfortunately I'm not entirely sure what to say about that because it's sadly a pretty big part of the world we live in, but I think self-confidence goes a long way. If you yourself believe that you're an interesting person with a lot more to share than just your body, you'll be able to make others believe it too :)

I also think you should definitely bring it up in therapy, you really don't have anything to lose by doing that :)
I'm guessing no, but have you ever had a boyfriend btw?
 
I might also suffer from low self-esteem regarding my appearance. Afterall, I did suffer from a minor eating disorder for over two years when I was younger. In a way I think my aversion to sexual intimacy is a response to growing up. Also, I remember when I was around 15 I had this innate desire to be genderless. Strange, I know, but I kept feeling like my sexuality was holding me back and it kinda disgusted me.


Low self-esteem and eating disorders don't appear out of thin air either. Something at a young age usually triggers that.
If I were you, I'd meditate on the past and really dig up things you don't want to, to find the route of all of it.
It ALL starts from somewhere.
 
Fear of intimacy is fear of vulnerability.

Hone in on why you think being vulnerable means being weak. They are not the same thing. If you resolve that then you're home free.


How are vulnerability and weakness not synonyms? I'm not trying to be a bitch, I really don't get it.
 
How are vulnerability and weakness not synonyms? I'm not trying to be a bitch, I really don't get it.

Vulnerability means being open. It means letting your guard down, and letting someone else into your boundary. If you want to experience true intimacy that you can surrender to, then you need to be vulnerable.

Weakness is frailty, debility, and insecurity. When it comes to intimacy, a weak person cannot be vulnerable. It takes strength of character to be vulnerable in the intimate sense.
 
Vulnerability means being open. It means letting your guard down, and letting someone else into your boundary. If you want to experience true intimacy that you can surrender to, then you need to be vulnerable.

Weakness is frailty, debility, and insecurity. When it comes to intimacy, a weak person cannot be vulnerable. It takes strength of character to be vulnerable in the intimate sense.


Hmm, I'm still not getting it. Maybe it's because I don't fear intimacy, I dislike it. I'm not emotional anyway, so this kind of stuff is foreign to me lol. Thanks for trying to set me straight, though!
 
I think you just upset too much, who can't look nice in 19? You are having low self-esteem, so work on that for start
 
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