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As most of you are aware it is possible to get legal "alternatives" and I mean alternatives, not the same thing, don't expect the same thing but they will have some if not most of what you expect from your high.
Now when MDPV went to headshops it was a catastrophe but they came into the game in a way where there was no way but avoid catastrophe, Americans/Uk citizens aren't use to pure drugs that shit damn near dropped a lot of people. However the ones that could handle it didn't have to beg doc's for Ritalin all the time and whatnot.

Where this is going is do you think RC Benzos, psychedelics, opiates, and dissasociatives could, and if they could should we allow them to go into headshops.
 
No. I do not think RCs should be available to the public via head shops or gas stations. If they are to remain a legal gray area they need to be purchased exclusively online through reputable vendors. Drugs are not like other items where they can be openly sold to people like candy and other "safe" items. The reason is because a lot of them are inherently more dangerous then anything else that can be sold especially if they have an addictive quality like stimulants. It just creates a dangerous market if sales are not limited as you never know what product you are getting and they arent regulated enough to ensure that people wont cut them.

The other problem is availability does lead to use not in the sense that people who wouldnt use will but in the sense that if it was easy to get people will over use because they can. Having to wait 3 days to get a package means you have to wait 3 days or at least plan for it and that causes budgeting and better use of resources. Its just like how an addict may only need 5 bags a day but will use 20 if he buys 20 but only 5 if he buys 5.

Personally I think things are fine the way they are. I think if people plan and buy online from reputable vendors it may allow the drugs to stay "legal" longer, make it harder for "kids" to get them, and allow the city/town to act like sales dont occur there. It is called gray because its out of sight out of mind, it really became a problem when JWH became something that was sold everywhere. Hell a lot of us owe JWH for our introduction into RCs and that is how police got their introduction to RCs.

So my vote is heck no! ;)
 
I'm all for responsible sale of the golden triumphant of LSD/mushrooms, MDMA and cocaine to adults, through a licensed outlet like a bottle shop. Correct dosage, education pamphlet explaining risks and what to do in an adverse reaction. Not dissimilar to Dutch smart shops. Some people might lose their shit, but they are the same people who choose to ride skateboards in traffic. You can never legislate for the 5% of morons out there who will choose hedonism over responsibility.

The rest of the shitty research chemicals out there would disappear due to consumer market pressures
 
You both bring up good points, the former is what I was more worried about but couldn't the dilution be made so to where a "situation" would be damn near impossible and it'd be like pickin up Xanax bars. (which comes with its own set of problems of course but everyone is safe at least)
 
One Thousand Words said:
I'm all for responsible sale of the golden triumphant of LSD/mushrooms, MDMA and cocaine to adults, through a licensed outlet like a bottle shop. Correct dosage, education pamphlet explaining risks and what to do in an adverse reaction. Not dissimilar to Dutch smart shops. Some people might lose their shit, but they are the same people who choose to ride skateboards in traffic. You can never legislate for the 5% of morons out there who will choose hedonism over responsibility.

The rest of the shitty research chemicals out there would disappear due to consumer market pressures
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Triumvirate? Why is coke in there? Because you like it most?
 
RC's are only allowed to be sold anywhere because they have not become illegal yet. What is the point of saying that these substances should be allowed to be sold in headshops? If this was ever the case, why not just make all drugs legal and have the state regulate sales? I don't see how they would ever allow sketchy shit that they have no idea what it actually is to be sold in the place of the real deal that these substances are trying to imitate. That would be ridiculous.
 
Some people cant handle their coke just like some can't handle their heroin though

We'd need a scientific scale of abusability to determine which should be legal if we are going to illegalize some drugs objectively.
 
Eh, I don't think people should be punished for having drugs, but I don't think shit should be sold in head shops and gas stations(evev though I bought that Matrix spice all the time like 5-6 years ago) because then EVERYONE knows about it, and now we have the internet where everyone can talk about it. i'm not sayin don't talk about it but putting it in head shops/gas stations just ruins it for people who know what there doing instead of some 18 year old kids who's done nothing more than weed. Glad people get eduducated and shit but all the sites with threads on poppy pods ruined such a good deal on those, so cheap. Still mad that happened,lol.
 
right, when mdpv was running gas stations much less complaints. However I respect the opinion of the forum which seems to be no despite the fact it would be fairly easily to do.
 
One Thousand Words said:
For me opiates and benzos should remain prescription only medications
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They wouldn't result in so many overdoses if drug users were properly educated about these drugs and if potentially life-saving overdose treatments for opioids and benzodiazepines like naloxone and flumazenil, respectively, were as readily accessible as the drugs they're used to treat.

However, having discussed this with many medical professionals, from nurses to doctors, the overwhelming concensus is clearly that education of drug users and increased availability of anti-OD drugs would be enabling drug use.

Apparently, preventing the death of a drug user is worse than allowing them to die unless admitted into a hospital. I presume this serves the interests of prohibitionists, as it magnifies death statistics, increases hospital admissions for drug ODs, and thus provides anti-drug activists more ammunition with which to fervently oppose and controvert drug use and foment pharmacophobic hysteria within the public by frightening them with fictions, under the pretense of saving lives, ironically . Seems to be working.

Just another example of how extremely thoughtlessly impassioned ideology can pervert one's reason and frustrate critical thought.
 
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