Extracting Dihydrocodeine from Sorbitol (Rikodeine Cough Syrup)

[Splatt]

I have some Rikodeine cough syrup 200ml, which u can buy at a pharmacy OTC if you say u have a dry cough at night and cannot sleep. It contains per 10ml: 19mg dihydrocodeine tartate and 4.4g sorbitol
Also contains Sucrose and Mehtylhydroxy Benzoate and is cherry flavoured.

I want to somehow get the dihydrocodeine out of it do I can take the whole bottle without shitting my pants for 48 hours. And what bad effects does Methylhydroxy Benzoate have? It doesn't list how much mg per ml.

Anyone done this before?

 

[Roches]

The methylhydroxy benzoate (methylparaben, methyl p-hydroxybenzoate) is probably a preservative, and there's probably not much of it. The sorbitol is, I'd guess, intended to hopefully induce vomiting if you drink too much. Sorbitol is an artificial sweetener, a sugar alcohol, and it has the (potentially desirable) side effect of causing stomach upset and diarrhea in large doses. So it makes the syrup sweet and tasty if you follow the directions and makes you sick if you drink a lot of it.

I can think of how you could isolate that acid salt from the water-soluble components, but I can't say it. =|

 

[rachamim]

I provided the workup for morphine syrup and it works for this as well. Please search the site. Sorry I do not have the patience to post it again.

 

[tadfish]

ah so how splat or anyone

 

[johanneschimpo]

Well if you hadn't noticed, that line through Splatt's name means he's been banned; so he'll probably have a hard time replying to your question.

In the post above yours Rachimim says if you search you can find a post where he provided info on how to extract morphine from syrup, or whatever drug from whatever syrup presumably (DHC in this case).

However, I have the opinion that this extraction would be out of the capacity of 98% of bluelighters, due to lack of knowledge and necessary materials.
For you, I say good luck if you have this syrup and can make it work.


edit: way to dig up this dinosaur of a thread.

 

[blau1005]

That's funny, I was just looking at this old thread earlier today. Then I spent a while looking for the method that rachamim apparently posted, but I couldn't find it.

I'm not sure that this extraction is possible without specialty chemicals and a reasonable knowledge of what you're doing. I certainly think it wouldn't be as easy as a CWE on codeine tabs.

If you drink the 100ml bottle of Rikodeine, that's 44g of sorbitol. Quite a bit but nothing world-ending if your digestive system is otherwise in good shape. Perhaps take some loperamide if you're worried; either that or get some codeine tabs and CWE them. Unfortunately if you're CYP2D6 deficient like me, DHC is the only way to go for that beginner's opiate buzz.

 

[johanneschimpo]

Considering I'm apparently the only person in the world who knows how to search, I will give everybody the post in question. Keep in mind this is for morphine syrup, so it may differ slightly from the syrup you have, which might contain DHC, hydrocodone, codeine, or something entirely different.


(If any of you have any questions regarding anything contained within this post, feel free to PM me. Although this is not my recipe, and I have not tried it personally, I can offer assistance with the chemistry of it, as I do possess extensive knowledge on the subject. - JC)


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You will need a gallon of distilled water, an amount of non-polar solvent in twice the amount of your morphine syrup, a pH meter, seperating funnel, a very small amount of hydrochloric acid,and a tiny amount of sodium hydroxide in a 10% formulation. All these things are relatively inexpensive and easy to obtain.


Now, the "recipe":I] Take your syrup and combine it with an equal amount of the distilled water.

II] DROPWISE, add your 10% sodium hydroxide until the pH hits 11.5 .

III] Add your non-polar solvent [DCM works fine] in an amount equal to your COMBINED distilled water and syrup and combination.

IV] Add it all to your seperatory funnel and agitate moderately for 5 minutes.

V] Let stand until it separates into distinct layers.

VI] Remove the water layer [the top layer which will be lighter in color, etc.].

VII] Add an amount of distilled water equal to the removed water layer.

VIII] Agitate for 5 minutes, moderately.

IX] Let stand until it separates, as before in Step V.

X] Repeat Step VI again.

XI] Repeat Steps IV, V, VI, VII, and so on another 3 times

XII] Now add an amount of distilled water equal to the amount of non-polar solvent used.

XIII] Again, let stand to separate.

XIV] Add hydrochloric acid DROPWISE until you hit a pH of 9.1 .

XV] Let is stand to separate.

XVI] Evaporate to get to the goodies, morphine hcl.



Notes: You want to be sure to repeat the cumbersome agitate, let stand, separate" steps above becuase the if you do not remove all your sodium hydroxide it will react in a bd way [understaement] with your hydrochloric acid].

If you are just satisfied with a liquid morphine freebase you can simply stop after Step XI. If you follow through, and fully evaporate, you will have a pretty nice morphine hcl. Good luck.

 

[octoparrot]

is morphine/codeine syrup were talking about the stuff they rx for cough/colds or a stronger formulation?

 

[cosmic charlie]

Well if you hadn't noticed, that line through Splatt's name means he's been banned; so he'll probably have a hard time replying to your question.

In the post above yours Rachimim says if you search you can find a post where he provided info on how to extract morphine from syrup, or whatever drug from whatever syrup presumably (DHC in this case).

However, I have the opinion that this extraction would be out of the capacity of 98% of bluelighters, due to lack of knowledge and necessary materials.
For you, I say good luck if you have this syrup and can make it work.


edit: way to dig up this dinosaur of a thread.

If you are an ex - bluelighter can you never come back. That would be so horrible.

 

[johanneschimpo]

^ That is what being banned means.

is morphine/codeine syrup were talking about the stuff they rx for cough/colds or a stronger formulation?

Basically. Well, the codeine would be for colds, but as you know, the morphine is for pretty severe situations (unless its that shit with clay in it they sell OTC in the UK).

 

[tadfish]

Ah wasn't splatt a good bloke. what ever happen to him he did so much for BL.
finially get some answers to his questions

 

[Mr Blonde]

There's a lot you can't see that has been removed by moderators/other staff; I dare say that's what happened to Splatt, I wasn't moderator when he was removed but I have an idea of what happened.

 

[tadfish]

just said that cause it was like hey this bloke started this thread shame he not a mod to see it through. i remember his PM's and info and posts were always great. Sure he used drugs in as some say excess but fuck....shouldn't have we have tried to help him? I am not sure what this site stands for now....is it harm reduction or government sponsorship? or something else..?
just read some of his last posts he sounded really down, BL might have been it for him u never know

 

[Unknown]

^^
That's why I try to steer clear of the lounge!!!

 

[tadfish]

ok then william 1985 i guess that how old u are new fry. some of us here take drugs and try to help others.
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when u get that many post grom then i think u can enter with such comments.
it was a simple point maybe not needed and i may delete it but the comment is justified.
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