Experience w/ piracetam+questions

[SecondPull]

Some of the content of this post may be more appropriate for the psychedelics subforum, or even trip reports, but because my questions are specifically pertinent to MDMA, i felt I would get the best answers by posting here first. Mods, move if you see fit.

I have been curious about the potentiating effects of piracetam for some time now, and yesterday tried it in conjunction with LSD for the first time. I had been preloading for 3 days with 3.2g per day, and dosed similarly the day of the trip, 1-2hrs prior to dropping 3 hits of decently strong acid. My experience was very different from the other reports i have heard; I felt lucid to the point that it was very difficult to get drawn into the experience...I was TOO in control and it was very difficult to let things go where they wanted. Visuals were attenuated, but music enhancement remained normal. I am pretty sure these effects were due to the piracetam--3 of us took the LSD with piracetam, and one of us without. The three who did all reported a similar experience, while the 4th had a more typical trip. We all agreed that the most noticeable effect was that at any given moment, it was surprisingly difficult to say whether or not we were tripping at all, in spite of some lower-level effects like giggling, etc. Point of fact, it basically made acid into much more of a 'party drug' than anything else.

SO, my question: I was planning on preloading with piracetam prior to an event in september, but rolling (or possibly candyflipping) at this event. I would be interested in hearing experienced users weigh in as to whether or not this might enhance or dull the experience--obviously LSD and MDMA are rather different substances, but I was pretty disappointed by this trip, and would hate to have a similar experience where my roll just won't 'get off the ground' so to speak. Those of you who report a more clear-headed roll on piracetam, do you feel this inhibits you getting caught up in the experience?

 

[Wolfy90]

It makes E and drugs like mdma more enjoyable. As I dont take any drug to trip however, to have a better time overall.

 

[C8H10N4O2]

Piracetam intensifies every mental effect of MDMA for me. It actually does help pull me into the experience, so I'd imagine you will have better luck with MDMA+Piracetam.

 

[Bsiren]

I can tell you that piracetam certainly potentiates MDMA and all amphetamines/stimulants when I've tried it. They key I find is to just start taking it a day or two before using MDMA- otherwise, your body seems to adjust to the piracetam in your system, and the different is minor. I also use it afterwards- it seems to make any "hangover" effects disappear.

 

[No Consequence]

I can tell you that piracetam certainly potentiates MDMA and all amphetamines/stimulants when I've tried it. They key I find is to just start taking it a day or two before using MDMA- otherwise, your body seems to adjust to the piracetam in your system, and the different is minor. I also use it afterwards- it seems to make any "hangover" effects disappear.

how do you know that your body would get used to piracetam, diminishing the effects?
I would think that the more often you take piracetam, the better. It shouldnt matter if your body is 'used' to it because all it is doing it making your brain more healthy.

 

[mango salsa]

Man. Why have I not bought any piracetam yet. I really need to try it out.

 

[AylaV]

how do you know that your body would get used to piracetam, diminishing the effects?
I would think that the more often you take piracetam, the better. It shouldnt matter if your body is 'used' to it because all it is doing it making your brain more healthy.

Subjectively, I've noticed for several people now that the most effective thing to do is to load piracetam a couple days before the roll. Anything else you seem to get diminishing effects.

This is all subjective experience that I've personally heard, though. We don't have any quantitative data that says piracetam does anything for any recreational drug.

The general consensus, however, is that piracetam will improve -- not diminish your roll.

 

[No Consequence]

Subjectively, I've noticed for several people now that the most effective thing to do is to load piracetam a couple days before the roll. Anything else you seem to get diminishing effects.

This is all subjective experience that I've personally heard, though. We don't have any quantitative data that says piracetam does anything for any recreational drug.

The general consensus, however, is that piracetam will improve -- not diminish your roll.

Well if you know of any other threads or sites talking about long-term piracetam use that would be awesome. I want to try piracetam to bring back some of the magic, but i would also love to take it everyday anyways just to improve my concentration and memory (college student).

I would hate to take it everyday and have it not affect MDMA as much :/ lol

 

[Wolfy90]

Well if you know of any other threads or sites talking about long-term piracetam use that would be awesome. I want to try piracetam to bring back some of the magic, but i would also love to take it everyday anyways just to improve my concentration and memory (college student).

I would hate to take it everyday and have it not affect MDMA as much :/ lol

I take a gram every day. I roll hard, however it effects my drinking more for some reason. Its like dude your not getting drunk, you can get tipsy and remeber everythign lol.

 

[No Consequence]

I take a gram every day. I roll hard, however it effects my drinking more for some reason. Its like dude your not getting drunk, you can get tipsy and remeber everythign lol.

"Piracetam is said to increase the effects of alcohol and amphetamines. No other drug interactions have been noted. It is recommended that alcohol be avoided as one of the reported effects of piracetam is increased flow of blood to the brain, which would increase damage and intoxication."

http://www.erowid.org/smarts/piracetam/piracetam_faq.shtml#3.2.2

 

[Wolfy90]

"Piracetam is said to increase the effects of alcohol and amphetamines. No other drug interactions have been noted. It is recommended that alcohol be avoided as one of the reported effects of piracetam is increased flow of blood to the brain, which would increase damage and intoxication."

http://www.erowid.org/smarts/piracetam/piracetam_faq.shtml#3.2.2

Intersting, then why is it used as a substance to battle Acholism?

 

[No Consequence]

Intersting, then why is it used as a substance to battle Acholism?

Because if you're quitting drinking, you won't be drinking. So it's not going to damage you. Piracetam helps lower the symptoms and withdrawal side effects and such i guess.

 

[Wolfy90]

Because if you're quitting drinking, you won't be drinking. So it's not going to damage you. Piracetam helps lower the symptoms and withdrawal side effects and such i guess.

Intersting, ever since daily use I havent felt the need or desire to drink even at parties I have to force myself on the bottle.

 

[No Consequence]

Intersting, ever since daily use I havent felt the need or desire to drink even at parties I have to force myself on the bottle.

well then you are a perfect example how it can help with alcoholism :b
guess it diminishes craving or the want/desire.

 

[Wolfy90]

well then you are a perfect example how it can help with alcoholism :b
guess it diminishes craving or the want/desire.

truth, I dont even smoke weed anymore due to it. Pretty crazy, however I roll balls when I use mdma now like everytime, And Im a seasoned vet with MDMA this last summer I must of consumed 20 in the first few months now Im taking longer breaks and acutally enjoying it even more.

 

[No Consequence]

truth, I dont even smoke weed anymore due to it. Pretty crazy, however I roll balls when I use mdma now like everytime, And Im a seasoned vet with MDMA this last summer I must of consumed 20 in the first few months now Im taking longer breaks and acutally enjoying it even more.

So you would recommend piracetam daily?
Someone said an another thread that they think with daily use your body gets used to piracetam and diminishes the effect it was on E. I feel that that wouldnt even make sense. I would think it would help more and more with continual use.

 

[Wolfy90]

So you would recommend piracetam daily?
Someone said an another thread that they think with daily use your body gets used to piracetam and diminishes the effect it was on E. I feel that that wouldnt even make sense. I would think it would help more and more with continual use.

I do at least a Gram a day maybe 1.5 grams everyday. It helps me function even more I am more alert less tired. More motavited, its an awesome drug. I think if you use it in huge ammounts daily thats where you get scrwed over however, I use about 3 grams on the day I roll.

 

[No Consequence]

I do at least a Gram a day maybe 1.5 grams everyday. It helps me function even more I am more alert less tired. More motavited, its an awesome drug. I think if you use it in huge ammounts daily thats where you get scrwed over however, I use about 3 grams on the day I roll.

on the day you roll, do you just take it in the morning? I know certain things taken the same day can diminish the roll, so that's why i ask.

 

[Wolfy90]

on the day you roll, do you just take it in the morning? I know certain things taken the same day can diminish the roll, so that's why i ask.

It depends, when I wake up I take the 1.5 grams in the morning, then an hour before I pop the pill I take about 1.5-2 grams that way my body has it in me for about an hour and goes throughout the system making the MDMA seem more powerful when it hits its peak. However, I rarely eat anything of heavy substance my meal before clubbing is relativiley light. Maybe a few carbs like toast and chese with milk. Thats all though. I am still expirmenting though, as I bought Piritiam for meph so when I take meph I dont get the negative side effects such as blue knees and etc.

 

[supermagneet]

Have you noticed any increase in muscle tension/teeth gurning?