Ever notice how sad bluelight is on mondays and tuesdays..

[James707]

it seems like every mon. and tue. theres alot of sad post or worried post, if not alot atleast one on the front page. i love this site for it educational info but i wonder if all the complaints we are getting from people saying they are worried about issue, (which r very valid issues to be worrie about) r a mixture of our harm reduction post and a depressed comedown filled with anxiety. I know i flip out hard and easy on my sat-tue comedown, i take everything to heart and let lil shit bug me. im not saying we should stop all help and info with mdma abuse because everyone needs help understanding a drug that the government doesnt even undersand, but what im saying is what if people seeing and reading and hearing themselves read it, is actually the power of suggestion and therefore a "placebo effect." Us just mind fucking ourselves when it is most easly able to, when we are fried and recovering. this is not a dis to anyone claiming mdma damage, but just a thought to think about....

 

[C8H10N4O2]

You bring up a very interesting point. Are many of the negative threads in this forum largely influenced by the negative after-effects of ecstasy? I'm sure of it. Are they valid, then? Definitely. The change in brain chemistry makes a lot of people focus on negative things. But while on ecstasy (specifically in my experience, MDMA), people focus on positive things--increased value in bonding, physical sensations, enjoyment of dancing, etc.--and do we consider that something valuable? Of course.

I don't mean to make a lengthy post on this, but your observation brings up a HUGE part of my thoughts on mind-altering drugs in general. I feel that the reason ecstasy is so valuable in my life is because it makes me look at things differently. It has taught me to value the people who are close to me on levels I was ignorant to before. Just as importantly, it has taught me how to deal with negativity, and subjectively analyze my emotions before they influence my behavior. If people have emotional comedowns, and think to themselves, "oh, these emotions are just because of the drug, they aren't real," then the drug has done nothing for them. Those emotions are as real as any other. They may not be rational, but are cuddle puddles rational? Of course they aren't. People who aren't ignoring their emotions, and instead choose to post worried threads on here, are on the right track to really getting something out of this drug. They are learning something about themselves. I LOVE seeing all the stressed-out threads with kids working through their thoughts. It's just as important as remembering their awesome weekend. And for those who have truly shitty comedowns, they are doing themselves a favor by not ignoring themselves (or drowning the bad effects with more drugs), and considering that maybe ecstasy is not for them. If more people stopped when their body told them to, I'd imagine less past abusers would have depression/panic disorders today.

I don't think the forum is so sad on mondays and tuesdays. It's a good sign.

 

[James707]

so u do see the same trend that i see here on more monday than tuesday, claiming to feel long term side effects(not speaking for those who dont use mdma anymore) while they are still using mdma, could this be a form of our brain trying to understand why its chemically imbalanced and is inturn taking to the most rational diagnosis related to mdma use, because isnt that the brains whole point of meaning is, to understand.
i believe that some of us not everyone is falling for a mind-fuck, because if by thursday u r already for another pill, doesnt that say something? Our primal intinct is if the fire burns dont touch it, yet some of us a still gun hoe for that fab friday night not taking into account what we where rationalizing to ourselves earlier in the week.
i have been rolling balls every weekend now for about 4 weeks and before that i was rolling every weekend for up to a year and a half i have done anywhere from 150-200 pills 2-3 a night of partying and everytime i take a break of 2 weeks or longer i feel completly normal and look back at how i felt inbetween my thizz weeks and find myself mind fucking myself into beliveing i have so long term effect but once i get clean everything is so much more clear

 

[Bsiren]

I was feeling down, but your avatar of the "kitty loaf" cheered me up!

You bring up a very interesting point. Are many of the negative threads in this forum largely influenced by the negative after-effects of ecstasy? I'm sure of it. Are they valid, then? Definitely. The change in brain chemistry makes a lot of people focus on negative things. But while on ecstasy (specifically in my experience, MDMA), people focus on positive things--increased value in bonding, physical sensations, enjoyment of dancing, etc.--and do we consider that something valuable? Of course.

I don't mean to make a lengthy post on this, but your observation brings up a HUGE part of my thoughts on mind-altering drugs in general. I feel that the reason ecstasy is so valuable in my life is because it makes me look at things differently. It has taught me to value the people who are close to me on levels I was ignorant to before. Just as importantly, it has taught me how to deal with negativity, and subjectively analyze my emotions before they influence my behavior. If people have emotional comedowns, and think to themselves, "oh, these emotions are just because of the drug, they aren't real," then the drug has done nothing for them. Those emotions are as real as any other. They may not be rational, but are cuddle puddles rational? Of course they aren't. People who aren't ignoring their emotions, and instead choose to post worried threads on here, are on the right track to really getting something out of this drug. They are learning something about themselves. I LOVE seeing all the stressed-out threads with kids working through their thoughts. It's just as important as remembering their awesome weekend. And for those who have truly shitty comedowns, they are doing themselves a favor by not ignoring themselves (or drowning the bad effects with more drugs), and considering that maybe ecstasy is not for them. If more people stopped when their body told them to, I'd imagine less past abusers would have depression/panic disorders today.

I don't think the forum is so sad on mondays and tuesdays. It's a good sign.

 

[AylaV]

Suicide Tuesday is what we used to call it (not sure if there's a new word now). I'll always be a bit down after a rolling weekend. I know I'd rather people post sad, depressing topics on their suicide tuesdays than keep them to themselves and do something terrible without trying to at least get help first.

 

[C8H10N4O2]

^Lots of people still call it suicide tuesday.

I was feeling down, but your avatar of the "kitty loaf" cheered me up!

Hehe, thanks. Kitteh loaf always makes me happy.

 

[James707]

Suicide Tuesday is what we used to call it (not sure if there's a new word now). I'll always be a bit down after a rolling weekend. I know I'd rather people post sad, depressing topics on their suicide tuesdays than keep them to themselves and do something terrible without trying to at least get help first.

so we can agree that these feelings are mdma induced and instead of rationalizing it with health concerns what if we rationalized it with the side effect of the drug and that be it and know that we will make it till the end of the week and everything will be okay, fill in are "suicide tuesdays" with recreational therapy(when we can), and a understanding that things will get better and in time wont that help us fight these depressed anxiety filled feelings. it all has to start somewhere and im glad we have a site like this to help our community, but if we all took this outlook and try to use it as a tool, i think that it might help some if not all of us fight these drug induced side effect feelings.

 

[MasterSplinter]

maybe yur jus sad and you get way to emo when yer readin on the bluelight...

 

[AylaV]

so we can agree that these feelings are mdma induced and instead of rationalizing it with health concerns what if we rationalized it with the side effect of the drug and that be it and know that we will make it till the end of the week and everything will be okay, fill in are "suicide tuesdays" with recreational therapy(when we can), and a understanding that things will get better and in time wont that help us fight these depressed anxiety filled feelings. it all has to start somewhere and im glad we have a site like this to help our community, but if we all took this outlook and try to use it as a tool, i think that it might help some if not all of us fight these drug induced side effect feelings.

Having the knowledge that your depression is drug induced should be adequate enough to defeat that depression. It's still important to focus on physical harm reduction, however. If more people used MDMA in a safer fashion, then radical suicide tuesday feelings wouldn't be as prevalent. Just my thoughts on it. The depression CAN seem very real, though. I've found that real life "down" events effect me much more intensely after a roll. For this reason, the depression can still seem extremely real as you don't realise that you're, and pardon my horribly tired metaphor, "crying over spilt milk".