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RCs Etizolam and dreams

mind-explorer

mind-explorer

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Hello, does etizolam works like other benzos when affecting sleep patterns? Because I didnt remember any dreaming when I was taking traditional benzos. Is it being a thienodiazepine less likely to reduce sleep pattern? Because Ive had some very vivid and nice dreams I can remember still few days after and had pretty nice afterglow when thinking about them.
 
Anecdotally I found it to have minimal impact on my ability to stay awake, unlike other classic benzodiazepines that caused high dose black-out's where I'd wake up 12 hours later in a strange place not remembering how or what I did to get there. My dreams haven't been affected by etizolam either whereas with alprazolam I'd have a very hazy dreamless sleep, probably due to the amnesiac effects.
 
I was on Etizolam for a year. The first month or two I actually had nightmares every night. Then that turned into just no dreams at all whatsoever.
 
Benzos suppress REM stage of sleep and prolong the NREM phase 4 sleep (deep sleep). I remember reading somewhere that in low dose ranges the effect of etizolam on REM sleep is minimal compared to other benzos at comparable doses!
 
Yeah, thanks for answers, etizolam seems to supress REM less than I expected
edit - yes and I dont find etizolam sedative at all but it helps me to fall a sleep, not even close to sedation alprazolam gives me - 3-4mg definitely knocks me out 20mg of etizolam just feel like higher dose for me but nowhere near knockout or even blackout... I have to take around 5mg to feel even some sedation. I also have moderate tolerance (I am not addicted now but tolerance got too high in past)
 
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I remember having some pretty detailed dreams as well from etizolam, and one particular instance where I thought I had woken up though I had great difficulty physically moving my body and certain things weren't right (I had a textbook on me, but I hadn't fallen asleep studying), but then I really woke up and everything was as it should be. This is my only instance of sleep paralysis in my life, and thankfully it wasn't as unpleasant as it is for most people (being watched/attacked while unable to move seems to be common in sleep paralysis).
 
I can only imagine how terrifying that must feel. I take it your bouts with sleep paralysis did not occur due to etizolam? Is it something you suffer from regularly, and if so do you find etizolam acts to inhibit them since you describe the etizolam dreams as nice?
 
[éS]Infinite said:
I remember having some pretty detailed dreams as well from etizolam, and one particular instance where I thought I had woken up though I had great difficulty physically moving my body and certain things weren't right (I had a textbook on me, but I hadn't fallen asleep studying), but then I really woke up and everything was as it should be. This is my only instance of sleep paralysis in my life, and thankfully it wasn't as unpleasant as it is for most people (being watched/attacked while unable to move seems to be common in sleep paralysis).
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I've had a few bouts of sleep paralysis, and one episode (three in total) of Night Terrors (The latter of being attacked). I think it's the first time I've ever been able to categorically say there is a difference between fear, and terror. It's horrific.

None of this was caused by etizolam though, I always have dreamless sleep on etizolam until a couple of days after I stop taking them (This is purely correlation, and not causation). This could be for example that I have disturbed sleep, and etizolam suppresses it (as it should).

Zolpidem (Nonbenzodiazepine) always gives me vivid dreams, I would imagine this is probably due to it's short half life (2-3 hours).
 
I don't really understand that much how each of sleep pattern affect final sleep so not gonna pretend.

I have insomnia, I was on special EEG test during sleep and they didn't explain it a lot, they just told me my brain is not able to create first phase of sleep so I just skip from awake to asleep and dreaming without any step between. And that there is really no cure for that because it's the way my brain is built and cannot be modified by nowadays science.

That I can use non-addictive medicines sometimes with benzodiazepines occassionaly when insomnia gets really bad. Actually never had prescribed benzo myself because this was what neurologist told me but my psych. doctor knows I have history of poly drug abuse so she said no way benzo even occassionaly. Once gave me script for 10x Zopiclone when I really asked I just need something stronger to get even one good sleep because trazodone was not working (was up to 600mg/evening prescribed,tried some other non-addictive medicines but didnt find any that suits me)

I used benzos occassionaly maybe few weeks going periods during 5 years. Never got "addicted" on benzos, didnt use it long enough it seems.

Also, during sleep paralysis I kinda knew it was sleep paralysis after a minute. First I got scared because I couldnt move and there were 2 shadow people in my room, one sitting at end of my bed what made me feel its the reason I cant move and other one was in the corner staring and me but they had no faces if you know what I mean. It was 2-3 minutes long and most stressful thing was that I couldnt say anything and and they were just staring in silence.
 
mind-explorer said:
Also, during sleep paralysis I kinda knew it was sleep paralysis after a minute. First I got scared because I couldnt move and there were 2 shadow people in my room, one sitting at end of my bed what made me feel its the reason I cant move and other one was in the corner staring and me but they had no faces if you know what I mean. It was 2-3 minutes long and most stressful thing was that I couldnt say anything and and they were just staring in silence.
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I know what you mean, the "shadow characters" sound like the one from my Night Terror - It just slowly emerged from the corner before climbing up onto my bed, and over me, before plunging something into my chest. This caused an intense crushing sensation, inability to breath, unbelievable fear and panic before allowing me to snap out of it and sit up right screaming and screaming for no real reason.

However whenever I've suffered sleep paralysis I have never witnessed any sort of entities, or creatures.

My first few sleep paralysis were frightening, but I understand them now, and when they occur I do not feel any fear - I just wait it out.
 
I find Etizolam to be sedating, and I've experienced black outs and amnesia from it.

I've never had sleep paralysis without experiencing crippling terror. I haven't had sleep paralysis in a while, though.
 
It's colourful, it feels like I'm falling into a lucid dream.

I don't reach a dream state because a really loud buzzing, and an overwhelming sensation that I'm vibrating accompanies it increasing in intensity the longer I remain in that state which I believe causes me to awaken.
 
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