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RCs ethylphenidate vs mephedrone i prefer eph? surely thats not right?

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hi all

currently i have eph / mephedrone and some paste base ( tho it smells so bad im scared to touch it )

Anyway i was certain from my internet research that mephedrone was going to be a dream come true.

But so far I cant really feel much of a high from it at all?

I hear a decent nasal dose is 100mg. I am only doing about 50mg as it is big enough and nasty enough! I am doing as often as my nose can bare but getting nowhere?

Eph isnt great IMO but i am certainly getting more of an effect off that. I trust both the sources. Whats my problem?

btw the mephedrone is long white shards that are very hard
 
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impossible for anyone to answer with any degree of certainty (over the internet i mean.lol).

If all things are equal (i.e purity and dose) then id say its just an individual body chemistry sort of thing...like, i love zopiclone and get fantastic effects from it but diazepam just gives me minimal good effects anda stomach ache.

Both diazepam and zopiclone have the same mechanism of action and hit the same receptors but my response to them are markedly different.
 
years ago when mephedrone was still legal it was good. now what is sold as mephedrone is usually 4-mec from what i hear. if you are getting more of a buzz off eph then the mephedrone is not real, IMO.
 
How can you say it's 4-MEC from the shape of the crystals and the fact that it's not working (keeping in mind OP didn't take the dose recommended).

Also, OP. Are you crushing the crystals up before snorting them? That will help you use more easily. A good way to do this would be to lay the crystals in a baggy on a flat surface (preferably a baggy you won't need again because this can sometimes make holes in it) and then roll over, bash and crash the shit out of it with a lighter or something else hard. Then you should have a finer, easier to snort, and more effective powder to use.
 
Because so called "rice meph" which emerged shortly after meph was banned is 4-mec. 4-mec crystals usually have a shape as described by op. its very close to mephedrone but its not quite the real thing.

I dont touch any of that shit anymore lol it wud fry ur head after a while
 
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mate, jackeh is right. "long white shards" that are "hard" could apply to any number of chemicals.

Trying to identify a substance in thisway is a fools game.
 
Indeed. It's impossible to know for certain what a chemical is due to it's crystalline shape.

I've seen mephedrone as sparkly powder, yellowish crystals, white sugary granules, and rice crystals. All of them had the same subjective effects on me, some slightly better than others but that can be down to purity rather than being a completely different drug.

Just as one drug can have a multitude of appearances, many drugs can have the same appearance.
 
^ True, but *all* 4MEC I've ever come across has been "white rice" looking.

It's no guarantee, but I would bet it's not 4-MMC. Real 4-MMC you would feel, even at 50mg. 4-MEC I could never feel even at 500mg+.

I've never seen "rice crystals" of 4-MMC, and I use to sell the stuff for christ's sakes in 2011.

Add in the fact that almost all of the mephedrone going around in the last few months *actually has been* 4-MEC. regardless of shape, and I think it's not too silly to suspect OP has 4-MEC.


Why don't you eat it OP? If it's real 4-MMC it will still be great orally.

Obviously you can recrystallize practically ANY drug to look like ANY type crystal - but you have to keep market history in mind - and 4-MEC, historically, has almost always been long oval shards - 4-MMC, not so much.

Regardless, isn't substance ID threads not allowed?
 
yea this is very true obviously u cant tell wat something is just by looking at it... i do know however since it was banned it is definately not the same thing IMO. i also know of people selling 4-mec as meph lol. i remember the last time i touched "meph" or "rice meph" and it was not meph whatever the fuck it was. never again. head melted.

im drinking a cup of valarian tea, it smells like smelly feet but tastes rather nice lol... kinda similar situation. kinda. maybe not really at all lol
 
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^ True, but *all* 4MEC I've ever come across has been "white rice" looking.

It's no guarantee, but I would bet it's not 4-MMC. Real 4-MMC you would feel, even at 50mg. 4-MEC I could never feel even at 500mg+.

I've never seen "rice crystals" of 4-MMC, and I use to sell the stuff for christ's sakes in 2011.

Add in the fact that almost all of the mephedrone going around in the last few months *actually has been* 4-MEC. regardless of shape, and I think it's not too silly to suspect OP has 4-MEC.


Why don't you eat it OP? If it's real 4-MMC it will still be great orally.

Obviously you can recrystallize practically ANY drug to look like ANY type crystal - but you have to keep market history in mind - and 4-MEC, historically, has almost always been long oval shards - 4-MMC, not so much.

Regardless, isn't substance ID threads not allowed?
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dont suppose you have tried 3-mmc? i havnt tried either 4-mmc or 3-mmc... 2-fmc and 3-fmc are some others iv heard of.

Its bleak the way ppl sell sumthing as one thing and say it another.... like methylone as mdma etc etc etc....

EDIT - just realised 4-MMC is mephedrone lol. i have tried that one.
 
hi all

I hope that it is not 4-mmc as i bought it through a contact i mostly trust, and i read online 4-mmc is nowhere near as euphoric?

I am a snorter. If you offered me a 10/10 drug to take oral or 7/10 drug to snort I would snort. I hate the pain but somehow enjoy the addiction.

I would guess that the lines I have been taking are around 50mg but I have taken 4/5 of them within a few hours. I hear of people taking 200mg mephedrone - and i guess I did used to take a very strong drug. So I may have to up the dose.

Is there any clear way for me to tell if 4-mmc vs meph? I wanted meph for euphoria.

I didnt think it had any smell, but when I left my room and came back it defo smelt a bit off.

I am hoping its meph but I think it could be 4-mmc just because thats legal

If it is 4-mmc what would be the oral does? Would it be euphoric?

Thanks for replies

I hope it is not 4-mec that sounds boring as hell

okay seems i got confused i admit it
 
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4-mmc *is* shorthand for mephedrone.

4-Mec is the boring one.

50mg of mephedrone every hour is not a lot, it really only lasts like an hour...Try 150mg initially with 50mg every HALF hour...

Also, I've never done any mephedrone that hurt bad to snort, I've hoovered up 250mg piles towards the end of a long night with less burn than a 25mg bump of meth...
 
There's no easy way to tell without reagent testing or GCMS/LCMS/NMR testing what your mephedrone is, or isn't. You can use color change reagents, but that will only tell you what the major compound is you have, if it's not too badly mashed down. You can't get percentage figures or anything, all you can say is, this is/isn't at least a little bit mephedrone.

Might want to send your stuff to DanceSafe/PillReports or Energy Control, they will test unknown drugs - pills, powders, pastes - for a fee.

closing this. use the search engine or check the directory for more.
 
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