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if your against the fur trade , but you see a kickass fur coat at a yard sale for 10 us dollars
it fits and looks awesome on me
its warm,

i wanna rock it, im gunna buy it

if you think the fur trade is wrong and disgusting, but theres a fur coat practically being thrown out,
would you agree its allright to rock it ,

im conflicted
 
the rabbit, mink or whatever is already dead, you might as well get some use out of it. I say rock it and put pics up showing it off.
 
If you see a fur coat in a yard sale, chances are no animals will be killed if you buy it. Namely because they already died and the fur is already made into a coat, and your refusal to buy it doesn't actually save any animals lives.
 
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Possums are in introduced pest in New Zealand whose 60 million population decimates the native bird population and destroys the native forests. As a result they are hunted and killed with the full support of animal rights and conservation groups and personally I have no ethical concerns using their pelts for fashion. Incidentally their fur makes a sensation coat as well as a really nice yarn for woollen garments.

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actually if you're fully against the fur trade then it is unethical to wear it even if you found it in your room. you're still promoting said style, thus promoting the trade.

/would wear fur w/o thinking twice if i cared to.
 
While I think it's fairly obvious that the purchase of one coat at such a low cost will have a near zero effect on the market for fur, the questions still is confusing on an even more basic level.

If you're against the killing of animals to make fur, what would be pleasing to you about wearing it no matter how low the cost?
 
Buying second hand? No problem.. you're not taking part in the demand for the supply..

Buying from a shop is different.. The more you buy, the more they order..
 
bronson- i'm inclined to agree, i don't see how you could be into wearing it if you disagreed with it ethically :/

naughtynicknails- yes, it is still a problem, see earlier posts for why it still feeds demand (and hence, what shops order).
 
i had a similar internal struggle. a friend had an old coat of her mother's that didn't fit her, the collar is lined with fur. it's would otherwise go unused and sit in a closet, so she gave it to me. i do feel a bit weird when i wear it because i don't want to promote fur coats or anything but i feel it's better to get use out of the coat rather than it sitting in the closet.
 
While I think it's fairly obvious that the purchase of one coat at such a low cost will have a near zero effect on the market for fur, the questions still is confusing on an even more basic level.

If you're against the killing of animals to make fur, what would be pleasing to you about wearing it no matter how low the cost?

The following is an analogy. That is, receiving a benefit from something which has already been done, was unethical, but never the less, the results of which are useful.

If you're against torture and medical experimentation on non-consenting humans, what would be pleasing about having a physician resuscitate you if you are severely hypothermic?

That research is still and it's results is still taught to Drs ans SAR personnel, saving lives. That fur coat will still keep you warm and look good.

In both cases,not using the results does not undo the deed.
 
only the continued usage of those benefits doesn't necessitate re-researching(unethically).
the usage of fur boosts the demand for fur, and since fur is still processed for these purposes it keeps the unethical acts alive and well.
 
actually if you're fully against the fur trade then it is unethical to wear it even if you found it in your room. you're still promoting said style, thus promoting the trade.

My thoughts exactly!
 
this is interesting.

what do we do, incinerate all existing fur?
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there is a reason that a fur coat is desirable, but there are ways to emulate what exists in nature, for example: the high-end fashion house Chanel has been using Pearls made of Cotton on their outfits. this is a simple idea that if practiced by more jewelers and fashion designers would eventually have a large positive effect on the eco-system, and our perception and belief of beauty.
 
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lol if you were extremely against fur, and held little regard for property rights, yeah i guess you would try!

and i think you meant immitating, not immolating ;P

I cannot fathom how one can be against all types of fur production, as there are obviously ethical ways to get fur (unless you see a dead animal, even if *100%* utilized, as something not to be touched). while wearing 'ethically produced' fur products will raise demand to some level, IMO that effect on demand is jack shit compared to my choice to wear it (if I were into fur), and i wouldn't hesitate - though if one were more offended by the fur industry in-general than i am, they very well may not be able to justify it as i can.

I'd say the fact OP is even considering it, means they are not offended to the level where it should hold them back - if that were the case they wouldn't be asking others' opinions.

Rock that shit for all it's worth, OP ;)
 
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I am a hunter and kill my fair share of fuzzy creatures every year. I don't care if you ware fur but.....if you truely hate the fur industry, isn't wearing a fur coat like being a walking billboard for them? unless you stop everyone that sees you in that coat and tell them that it is second hand they may never know it. you could potentually turn hundreds or thousands of people on to buying fur that is not so "ethical". each person that sees you in that coat may think that you look great in it and want one for themselves. so even though your money never really made it to the people who killed the fuzzies that were turned into the coat, just being seen in the coat could produce more revenu for the fur takers.
 
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