Harm Reduction Ethcathinone - ROAs/dosages/Hr info

[RobotRipping]

So i have some ethcathinone and would like to get the most out of it while being safe.

I am primarily interested in vaping it as ive heard from one or two reports that it is a big rush. What i don't know are the doses for this and how safe this is.

As well, what are oral doses and insufflated doses like? i've read 50-100mg but that's a big range and i don't want to be overstimmed. There's not a whole lot of info on this chem and it seems to be making a bit of a comeback. So i think some up to date HR info on it would be great. As well, if anyone can provide basic pharmacological info on this then that'd be great as well. If this has already been answered in another thread that i somehow didn't find then feel free to point me in the right direction or to UTFSE a bit more.

Any experiences with ethcathinone would be helpful and appreciated as well.


to start from wiki:

The pharmacology for ethcathinone appeared alongside other psychostimulants in a paper by Rothman and Baumann in 2006.[4] The predominant two modes of action for ethcathinone is as a moderately active releaser of noradrenaline (EC50 = 99.3nM);[4] however it is only a relatively weak inhibitor of dopamine reuptake (Ki = 1,014nM).[4]

so not a big dopamine reuptake inhibitor, and not even big on NE, but why do people get a rush out of this then? is there some serotonin being released?

Thanks!
did some research, doses seem to vary quite a bit, read a few reliable reports suggesting to snort 50-100mg. ill try 40mg and see how that goes, love smoking stims though, however fiendish would be interested to hear if anyone else has smoked this one.

 

[RobotRipping]

well in case anyone is wondering, 20-30mg snorted providea a decent rush, feels nice and mellow yet stimulating, no jitters, no bad come down. It's kind of strange as it has some sort of visual effect that isn't psychedelic but there anyhow. 20-30mg lasts about 1:30 hours then lingers a bit, i did several lines of it while i was still feeling a bit sick with the flu and every time it hit me it took away all symptoms and every time it wore off they came back, probably not a good cure for the flu it turns out.

 

[steingalkrs]

I usually start with two lines of 37,5 (75mg in total) - then keep going on during the night. Ive seen people having some threshold at 200mg range - I cannot say I have experienced any of this with this compund.

I find it much better that a-pvp and ethylphenidate which gives me neverending awake and pumping heart, the last one also gives me fireworks when closing my eyes which is a pain in the ass when trying to sleep as you need some hard hitting pills to go under fast!

Ethcathinone, I also notice that this together with most other stims that after 12 hours you are pretty much imune and need sleep in between to get any feeling back or you will be snorting for no good reason. I havnt tried eating it at first, or smacking it up my bum but I will definately do so. From what I read eating is just x2 so depending on how much you have of the stuff.

 

[foolsgold]

i've just got a gram sample of this and 4emc both very nice 100mg 4emc necked half gram speed and 50 mg eth-cat vaped and one valium to slow it down a bit and here is what im listening to [video=youtube_share;7TAS0WHWlOA]http://youtu.be/7TAS0WHWlOA[/video]

[video=youtube_share;2l-V6KygkFU]http://youtu.be/2l-V6KygkFU[/video] guess who is tripping

 

[sekio]

so not a big dopamine reuptake inhibitor, and not even big on NE, but why do people get a rush out of this then?

ne release (& adrenergic agonism) is stimulating

see also: ephedrine