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ETH-LAD - Inexperienced - Hi UG quick report

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The Shadow Self

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Hi,
I have been into psychedelics for several decades, and have done many sheets of LSD over the years and it has always been my favorite, with the possible exceptions of high-dose mushroom trips. So yeah...LSD, LSZ, AL-LAD, ALD-52, 4-aco-dmt, Mescaline, so on.
Anyway, after having read a lot about ETH-LAD for a while, and having a stash on ice big enough to kill an army, I decided to experiment.

Until this point, I had done about 300ugs, last year. I remember a long, uncomfortable come-up, some wicked nausea, and some other nasty body load. It was interesting, got nice OEV and less COVs, but fascinating and different structurally from other visuals I have seen. So, that was fine, but I did notice that while I was nauseous, something that I usually don't experience. I have an iron gut and have only really puked after drinking too much, long ago. So I let the ETH sit in its place for a long time, but wanted to push the envelope a bit. I am a bit of a hard-head so large doses generally don't bother me.

Well, this time I decided to take 600ugs. I know that is a shit ton of ETH, but I was fighting against a little LSD tolerance from a 500 ug LSD trip a week before, so I figured I'd have to fight through some tolerance.

So at about 4 pm, I took the ETH, and made sure I had everything in my house I might need, and waited.
-Come up seemed to take longer than LSD, and was slower to build.
-After about 1.5. to 2 hours I was feeling hot, nauseous, and starting to have visuals and actually feeling a little tired. I was feeling unsettled, but don't know why.
By about 7pm, I was experiencing some wicked OEVs, but less CEVs by comparison, but felt quite different from any other psych I've done.

-Peak was probably around 9- 11 pm or so, and to be honest, I was kind of looking forward to it fading away, mostly because the nausea was so intense. Never puked, but thought I might, but I just rode it out as I listened to music on headphones.

-Long story short, I considered the body load to be uncomfortable, to say the least. For example, it wasn't like typical nausea, I felt like I was poisoned. Now, I know I wasn't', but it did feel that way, and it made the experience much less enjoyable. When I compare it to LSD, or most any other psych, I get very little body-load, vasoconstriction or otherwise. But to be honest, I realize that it was a whole lot of ugs of ETH, and I know others have had similar experiences at much lower doses.

I think what I will do is wait for a time to reset tolerance, at least a month, then try a smaller amount, and see how that works out. I did get the feeling that there is something there that was different than any other psych I have tried but the circumstances were wrong, I believe.

The worse thing that can happen is I might actually enjoy it and may not feel the negatives I did on a huge dose.

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I’ve had the nausea and temp swings with even 50 ug, but also had great trips on the same amount.
I have not figured this one out yet, but note that when I’ve mixed it with cannabis, or tiredness, or bad hydration/food levels, /i get get heavy, bad body loads.
Not happening with 1p, or standard lucy, just the eth.
It is a magic gem, though, and worth researching to dial in the right dose, set/setting, and general health levels required.
I think it;s a tad harder on the system that lsd or even lsa.

Out of curiosity, when was your last lucy dose, before the eth-lad?
 
ETH-LAD is known for producing a heavy bodyload compared to other lysergamides. Personally I find it to have a more intense come-up, but I don't really get much bodyload from it. I've taken it at 300ug for my first time, and 100ug or less other times. At 300ug the visuals were insane. I found the headspace kind of mescaline-like once the come-up was over, very serene and zen-like, not nearly as confusing/hectic as LSD at an equivalent dosage, but much more visual.

Moving this to Trip Reports
 
DrumTripper said:
I’ve had the nausea and temp swings with even 50 ug, but also had great trips on the same amount.
I have not figured this one out yet, but note that when I’ve mixed it with cannabis, or tiredness, or bad hydration/food levels, /i get get heavy, bad body loads.
Not happening with 1p, or standard lucy, just the eth.
It is a magic gem, though, and worth researching to dial in the right dose, set/setting, and general health levels required.
I think it;s a tad harder on the system that lsd or even lsa.

Out of curiosity, when was your last lucy dose, before the eth-lad?
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It was about a 500ug dose a bit over a week before. It's one of the reasons I took as much ETH as I did. I have a f-ing hard head.
 
Man, see I wish I could go there, but am now shy after the time I puked 7 times on the eth comeup. Now, though, I’m starting to wonder if my low dose excursions are even more prone to this; less eye candy to distract equals more noticing the body and being half weirded out, if that makes sense. Your OEVs musta been incredible. Jealous.
 
Yeah LSD's lack of bodyload is great. ETH-LAD has a stronger bodyload, although it's not bad for me, but then I'm not sensitive to bodyloads. AL-LAD doesn't really have a bodyload either, in fact it feels more euphoric in the body than LSD. I like LSD more than any of the others by a little bit, but I like AL-LAD more than ETH-LAD. But ETH-LAD is nice too. Its visuals are really insane and I find it to have a very calm/zen state of mind that reminds me somewhat of mescaline but less satisfying/warm/empathogenic.
 
Xorkoth said:
Yeah LSD's lack of bodyload is great. ETH-LAD has a stronger bodyload, although it's not bad for me, but then I'm not sensitive to bodyloads. AL-LAD doesn't really have a bodyload either, in fact it feels more euphoric in the body than LSD. I like LSD more than any of the others by a little bit, but I like AL-LAD more than ETH-LAD. But ETH-LAD is nice too. Its visuals are really insane and I find it to have a very calm/zen state of mind that reminds me somewhat of mescaline but less satisfying/warm/empathogenic.
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I've noticed a handful of people describe ETH-LAD as more "weird" than LSD. (And AL-LAD to be more of a candy psych, at least compared to LSD).

Do you find that to be the case? How would you describe the weirdness? ...LSD is already pretty weird haha

Dosed my friend and his wife on a camping trip, during the trip she said many times "I still feel weird."
"Should I still feel weird?"

I was thinking, that's kinda the point
 
hydroazuanacaine said:
lots of body load huh. what makes plain lsd so nice versus shrooms is the lack of nausea.
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Body load / naussea are caused by tryptamines, Phenethylamines give vasoconstriction and anxiety, except 2c-T2. But Lysergides, havent done Eth yet but LSD, ALD-52, 1p-LSD and Al-LAD all devoid of both. i can take for introspection, when lucky but recreational everytime. The reason they became my favorit class of psychedelics. Seems strange Eth-LAD would be different akin to what LSA is decribed a bit. Is there a general consensus or is this individual or dosage related thing? (ordered it yesterday, also have some 1cp-Al-LAD waiting to be tried)

Though no experience with Mescaline or Ayahuasca/ or DMT, but with these psychedelic's the naussea side effect is outweighed by my expectance of the experience .

Btw never found Al-LAD to be more candy or for beginners. 1-p is nice one, LSD a bit to hectic. but ALD-52 would be the first one I would suggest to someone for a first time. as its so well balanced and tolerated ime. Even better then the others that where allready above the bar.
 
^^^ald-52 kind of makes me feel like i took an opiate which i've actually felt can be pretty heavy of a drug feeling. i've tried it between 50-100 times and always get the same feelings from any analogues... all the other stuff feels mildly stimulating... my friend is the type that recommends ald-52 for beginners. he ordered it for everybody in high school. people that never tried it were taking low doses and claiming to have a relaxed time with it. there was a lot of foxy and e going around. my friend was convincing people to take the ald-52 instead cause it was from a reliable vendor on the net and a better trip in his opinion.


i might like the body load from eth-lad at like 80-100ug more than lsd or any of the other analogues. like it definitely feels like i took a drug, or maybe poisoned, or i cought some type of flu or something and had a fever.... never took more than 100 or 150ug, whatever the tabs i had were dosed at.

eth-lad and 1p-lsd kind of have a similar feel to me. the eth-lad being more stimulating.. ald-52 kind of goes in a different direction, even though i don't think either of them are really effecting a persons heart rate or whatever unless something happens psychologically.. i've tried a lot of those three. al-lad i only did once, not sure what i thought of it. i was tripping pretty hard on like 300ugs of it, but i took like 80ugs of 1p the day before. even with the tolerance, i was tripping pretty hard and kind of unsure of how my body felt. might've been the most enjoyable with out any body load.. i haven't tried any of the other lsd analogues.
 
@foodcrisis if my reading is correct from all the Lysergics ALD-52 is the only one for you that is non stimulating.

Individual responses are so variable. Its my favorit but I consider none of the Lysergics stimulating, opposit sedating. Ok they don't put me to sleep. But if the action is over they don't interfere with my sleep, just influence when I can go to bed. So swapping laying on the .... for sleeping in bed. Is this maybe age related (50)?
 
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emkee_reinvented said:
@foodcrisis if my reading is correct from all the Lysergics ALD-52 is the only one for you that is non stimulating.

Individual responses are so variable. Its my favorit but I consider none of the Lysergics stimulating, opposit sedating. Ok they don't put me to sleep. But if the action is over they don't interfere with my sleep, just influence when I can go to bed. So swapping laying on the .... for sleeping in bed. Is this maybe age related (50)?
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yeah. ald-52 definitely not stimulating for me. i only tried four of the analogues. and al-lad was only once. i often heard people saying that one has the least side effects like being upper or downer feeling. i'm not really sure what i thought of that one. i definitely feel some stimulant edge with 1p-lsd and eth-lad, eth-lad being a stronger edge than the 1p.... i sometimes hear people saying lsd25 is stimulating..

i appreciate your response to get to know others feelings on things.
 
^^^ @emkee_reinvented i'm not 100% sure what my doses were. i think the 1p came with 150ugs on each tab and the eth-lad was supposed to be 100ugs, maybe. the ald-52 might've been 150ugs. i really can't remember. they were different with some tabs being 150 and some 100ug. there were some price differences from the site i was using. the 1p was always on sale and a little cheaper anyways with out the sale.

i always just took 3/4th of a tab no matter which one, and it was always pretty similar experiences... i wish i could remember the exact doses that came on the tabs. if i had known i'd be posting on message boards about it, i probably would've tried to remember.

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foodcrisis said:
^^^ @emkee_reinvented i'm not 100% sure what my doses were. i think the 1p came with 150ugs on each tab and the eth-lad was supposed to be 100ugs, maybe. the ald-52 might've been 150ugs. i really can't remember. they were different with some tabs being 150 and some 100ug. there were some price differences from the site i was using. the 1p was always on sale and a little cheaper anyways with out the sale.

i always just took 3/4th of a tab no matter which one, and it was always pretty similar experiences... i wish i could remember the exact doses that came on the tabs. if i had known i'd be posting on message boards about it, i probably would've tried to remember.

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1P was 100 ug AL-LADwas 150 ug and eth-LAD was 100 ug for all but the very first test batch (small pre-release test batch)
 
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