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(Escaline - 70mg) wonderful psychedelia!

RobotRipping

RobotRipping

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Okay i am just coming down off of a 60mg dose of this stuff, i also did 10mg sublingually which didn't seem to make a difference in onset at least.

+0.00: feel really happy, excited and ready to trip! Dose 60mg capsule and 10mg under tongue.
+1:00: nothing, this is taking forever to kick in
+2:00: smoke a cig with hash oil; things start to kick in a bit
+2:30: effects definitely starting, warping, waving, no patterns, plenty of closed eyed visuals, bit of confusion but mostly lucid, music sounds great, playing guitar is extremely immersive and video games are fun as well.

+4:00: still kicking in it seems, definitely not at peak yet.

+6:00: i'd say by this time it had peaked, plenty of visual distortions, great euphoria, mind state, very trippy thought patterns, visuals emerging from every object and distorting in strange ways. Kind of like 2c-i visuals.

+8:00: effects still going strong at +++

+12:00: effects dropping off, returning to baseline


overall an amazing experience, very fun, euphoric, and smooth. I haven't had mescaline in pure form but have taken san pedro many times. This is a much cleaner experience with unique visuals and a better state of mind for 'mind voyages' i'd basically nod out and enter dream states in these strange worlds.

I definitely think i could dose up to 100mg with this stuff for a ++++ but i think a different ROA would be more appropriate given the duration of oral dosing. Will update with future experiments.

This is a magical substance, likely going to be one of the best psychs around for a while to come.

Vaping Experiment:

5mg - light psychedelicia after a few minutes, no rush oddly enough, tastes kind of good

15mg - stronger psychedelia after a few minutes, again no rush though, weird as i'm used to getting a massive psych rush when i vape psychs. Maybe the doses need to be a tad higher or this ROA just isn't effective

30mg total vaped - not a worthwhile endeavor, either it's tolerance or this just isn't effective. There are definite effects but they are what i would imagine would happen from a 30mg dose oral, just hitting you quicker, which is not worthwhile IMO.

Plugged:

30mg - think i messed this up but i got no effects from this at all. It definitely burned my ass though.

edit: took 60mg (in ca capsule) the day after and had about 50% reduction in effects, for this substance it seems like tolerance sets in pretty fast. Will give it another go next weekend.
 
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Nice report on a somewhat unknown chem. perhaps add a bit next time about how you felt and stuff? I like the scientific portion of trip reports, but the subjective aspects of trips interest me the most. Maybe get back to us on that 100+mg dose? And remember, be careful!
 
well it felt a lot like mescaline but cleaner, like 25i-nbome compared to 2c-i. It's a very clean trip but with LSD like visuals. I didn't see any patterns really but things just came alive and started morphing, moving and doing all kinds of interesting things. It's hard to describe. It's intense too, from the time it kicks in until the time it stops, it's like a big peak.

basically I felt amazing the whole time, astounded by the visuals, inspired by the creative insights and greatly enjoyed it. Seems so hedonistic, but that's what it was for me. No introspection at all, though i could if i wanted to.

Probably not going to do 100mg orally, i'll try 20-30mg plugged or ill vape 20-30mg for a ++++. Just not into wasting that much material and having my mind blown for 12 hours, 70mg was enough for that alone.
 
Seems like an interesting and worthwhile chemical experimenting with. I was always going to reserve myself for the traditional experience but this definitely intrigues me.
 
i think the mescaline analogues are going to be the next big thing for psychs. the nBOMes were too risky and too potent, the 2c's too boring and the DOx too long lasting. I'm going to have to try proscaline, methallyescaline next, i hear allyescaline is not great so i won't bother with it.
 
Yeah, I too have found the 2C-X compounds quite boring for the most part. I'm going to shift my focus to all the different flavors of tryptamines, they seem to have a much more "full" experience. I will of course be getting this compound as soon as possible as well so thanks a lot for the trip report.
 
The dream state sounds particularly like mescaline (well either that or 4-AcO-DMT or AMT or something), interesting... thanks for writing this, I'm trying to get my hands on some very soon.

It sounds more reasonable in duration than mescaline as well, although the long comeup seems similar.

Is it a little lighter in character than the 'soul searching' quality of mescaline and this analogy runs similar to 4-HO-MET vs. 4-HO-DMT?

The next homologue proscaline sounds even more recreational and less serious although IIRC the duration was not shorter than that of mescaline...
 
i don't think it's lighter in the soul searching, especially the way 4-ho-met is to 4-ho-dmt. It's more deep than 4-ho-met by far, i guess it's not a pushy substance, you can take it where you want. If it's deep introspection you can go there, if it's recreational psychedelia you want, you can have that too. You basically steer it where you want. It's very gentle like mescaline but unquestionably strong at the same time. It doesn't seem to hit my panic button like some tryptamines do. The dream like states are exactly like mescaline's, very strange and interesting, almost like an opiate nod but more psychedelic of course.

ill have to try proscaline soon enough.
 
ive never been big into psychs, ive had my fun with mushrooms but thats about it. tho i must say, mescaline is one ive always wanted to try. how did the trip compare?
 
very similar IMO but escaline is cleaner, more potent and less side effects by far. I'm on an 80mg dose right now and tripping pretty hard but still quite lucid and functional. It's a fucking great psych IMO, i've done 4 trials with it and each has been interesting.

yesterday i took 60mg in cap. strong +++ at times but other times felt like i took nothing, comes in waves, like the most PEA psychs do, so that seems normal.

today i took 80mg in a cap, very strong +++, bordering ++++. I can't figure out the tolerance with this chem, last weekend it seemed on the second night i took it there was a 50% reduction in effects (approximate) and this time i upped the dose by 25% and a major increase in effects compared to the night before.

I think it's tolerance behaves similar to the 2c-x series rather than the nbome series, which also coincides with how i feel mescasline tolerance works. I can take mescaline 2 nights in a row and still trip, second night needing a higher dose of course. WIth the nbomes, there's pretty much no hope of a second night trip.

also something different this time: the come up time was much less, i felt first alerts within an hour after taking it, which is odd but i can usually detect such things well. Full tripping began at 2 hours which was much shorter than my last trial (aka last weekend). The one thing consistent though is that it seems to peak from 2-3 hours until 8-10 hours. Super long peak and it does hit you in waves constantly, sometimes i feel like i am the visuals i am seeing (yeah ineffable experience but thats my best description).

anyway, it's a gem. I hear proscaline is even more potent so i imagine it's even cleaner. I get gastrointestinal issues with escaline, the same as i would 2c-e or 2c-t-2.

also something i forgot to mention: i take etizolam daily so i may not notice the come up anxiety with escaline, so beware of that when reading these reports. I also take kratom but not consistently, usually one dose in the morning before a trip that day, doesn't make much of a difference IMO. I do get the shits badly with escaline and the 2c-x series so i usually take immodium to prevent problems. I also take a ginger capsule to prevent nausea, as this one does cause a bit of nausea but nothing compared to mescaline or 2c-e.
 
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What method did you use for vaping? If an actual vape, model or temp please? I'm interested in the possibility of trying this one day with more distance between trials...
 
used a dmt machine, wasn't going to throw that shit in my volcano in case it ruined it. Vaping sucks though, totally not worth it with this chem. I've vaped plenty of psychs and this one just didn't hit the spot with me, maybe my tolerance was already too high though.

Yesterday i did a 90mg dose and it's clear that tripping every weekend on this has caused a massive tolerance, 90mg with no tolerance would have blown my mind, 90mg after 3 weekends of tripping on it, got me really high and had some visuals and a nice mental trip but felt like 60mg without tolerance. I also find i get a pretty bad crash the next day. slept 13 hours today and only used etizolam/zopiclone to come down. It's kind of taken a big toll on my psyche so i'm giving it a break for a while, unless someone can tell me if they've snorted it and how it went in which case i'll snort some lol.

Has anyone else tried escaline? it's been around long enough now and i must find out whether snorting it works but my tolerance is just too high to bother trying right now and my nose has a fear of intense chemical burns.

well tonight is another trial; this time with low tolerance and the magical 100mg dose. I think it's safe to say the dosage range for this substance is 50-100mg by now. 100mg being insanely strong and 50 being a solid trip. Next up is proscaline and methylallyescaline can't fucking wait.
 
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Hey RobotRipping, glad to have someone else here currently teasing out this substance. Thanks for being one of the first and easing my anxieties before taking the plunge. I left a trip report in the big and dandy thread (probably will end up moved) but I was wondering if you would be willing to divulge your body weight. I took 75mg and it was a great time but not quite the same intensity as your 80mg experience. I'm pretty big at 240lbs so I might need to shift my dose curve higher. I'm probably going to go with 100mg next and see where that takes me but if there is a large discrepancy in our size I may jump a smidge higher (115mg). Much thanks!
 
my body weight is around 180 lbs, but fluctuates quite a bit with drug use lol.

I've done 100mg+, doesn't seem to add anything more to the experience, you get super high but visually, it's the same IMO. I've run out of escaline after last night. GF tried it for the first time, hated it beyond belief. So i guess YMMV, but i love the stuff. Getting some proscaline soon and going to try that out as it should be a bit better with less side effects.

After all my trials with a gram of escaline, i think i have a good feel for it. It's a nice psych but it's missing some qualities that would put it over the top. It also is prone to creating more tolerance than the 2c-x family for some reason, but not as bad as the nBOMEs. Overall i really enjoyed it but i love to trip, i don't recommend it for a beginner that's for sure.

dosage range imo is 60-100mg, duration 8-10 hours, with lingering effects after. Mildly stimulating and very rushy (you feel body rushes like on MDMA/methylone). Visuals are rarely present for me but when they were they were 2c-t-2. 2c-ish. That pretty much sums up my experience with, probably won't order it again as proscaline and methylallyescaline should be better candidates for my fav psych.

I'd try 100mg your first time if you are bigger person, tho it shouldn't matter, you should be experienced with psychs to handle a high dose like that, if you are then you'll be fine. It will be intense though. In general body weight doesn't play a huge role in psychedelic doses, it comes down to your own body's chemistry and your experience with psychs, so maybe try 80mg first, then 100mg. 60mg with no tolerance is enough to give you a pretty strong trip, so keep that in mind.
 
thanks for the nice trip reports!
as far as proscaline is concerned, dont get your hopes up too much... it was around some time ago and while i had the chance to try it, i wasnt overly impressed. nice and recreational, but more alike 2ci than anything i can think of... visually bland, slightly stimulant and not too psychdelic, but comfortably recreational, one might say even empathogenic. long comeup with a dragged comedown.... but ymmv of course.
cheers!
 
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