Ending Moderate Drinking Tied To Depression

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Scientific evidence has long suggested that moderate drinking offers some protection against heart disease, certain types of stroke and some forms of cancer.

But new research shows that stopping drinking -- including at moderate levels -- may lead to health problems including depression and a reduced capacity of the brain to produce new neurons, a process called neurogenesis.

The findings from the Bowles Center for Alcohol Studies at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill appear online in the journal Neuropsychopharmacology.

"Our research in an animal model establishes a causal link between abstinence from alcohol drinking and depression," said study senior author Clyde W. Hodge, Ph.D., professor of psychiatry and pharmacology in the UNC School of Medicine. "In mice that voluntarily drank alcohol for 28 days, depression-like behavior was evident 14 days after termination of alcohol drinking. This suggests that people who stop drinking may experience negative mood states days or weeks after the alcohol has cleared their systems,"

The mice were tested for depression-like behavior using a widely recognized method called the Porsolt Swim Test. The mice are placed inside a beaker filled with water and allowed to swim for six minutes. Mice are good swimmers and have no problem completing this task. The amount of time they spend immobile (floating and not swimming) is measured as an index of despair or depression-like behavior. The more time a mouse spends immobile, the more "depressed" it is thought to be.

"This research provides the first evidence that long-term abstinence from moderate alcohol drinking -- rather than drinking per se -- leads to a negative mood state, depression," Hodge said.

The study also found that the emergence of depression was associated with a profound reduction in the number of neural stem cells (cells that will become neurons) and in the number of new neurons in a brain region known as the hippocampus. This brain region is critical for normal learning and memory, and recent studies show that the development of neurons in the hippocampus may regulate mood, Hodge said.

According to the researcher, the negative mood state in mice may represent depression in humans and appears to be linked to a diminished capacity of the brain to form new neurons. "Thus, people who drink moderate alcohol socially, or for potential health benefits, may experience negative mood or diminished cognitive abilities due to a loss of the brain's ability to form new neurons," he said.

But the study also found that treatment with an antidepressant drug during 14 days of abstinence prevented the development of depression and restored the capability of the brain to produce new cells.

"Treatment with antidepressant drugs may help people who suffer from both alcoholism and depression by restoring the brain's ability to form new neurons," Hodge said. "Moreover, this research provides an animal model of alcohol-related depression with which we can begin to fully understand the neurobiology underlying co-occurring alcoholism and depression, and thereby develop successful treatment options. At this point it appears that blunted neurogenesis may underlie the effects of abstinence from alcohol drinking on mood, but understanding the mechanisms by which this occurs is a key challenge for future research."

Several co-authors, all from UNC, also contributed to the study: Jennie R. Stevenson, neurobiology graduate student; Jason P. Schroeder, Ph.D., and Kimberly Nixon, Ph.D., research associates with the Bowles Center; Joyce Besheer, Ph.D., assistant professor of psychiatry; and Fulton T Crews, Ph.D., director of the Bowles Center and professor of psychiatry and pharmacology.

The research was supported by grants from the National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism (a component of the National Institutes of Health) and by the Bowles Center for Alcohol Studies.

The study can be found at: http://www.nature.com/npp/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/npp200890a.html.

Ending Moderate Drinking Tied To Depression
Science Daily
July 10, 2008

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/07/080708104521.htm
 
I have a feeling there has been some independent research done by members of this site. Results?
 
Like all drugs, the difference between use and abuse is the difference between medicine and poison. I don't like getting drunk, but I do enjoy the effects of alcohol. You just have to treat it like any other drug, it's not a toy or a ticket to instant fun, but it can improve your life when used properly.
 
Personally, drinking every day tends to make me more depressed, hence the reason I'm currently tapering (almost done)... however, having a beer or three 1 to 3 days a week never hurt anyone. I don't like getting drunk anymore, at least not that often.
 
Yeah I've found I'm mentally healthier drinking moderately than not at all, but both feel heaps better than being a lush.

I currently drink a 24 ounce can of budweiser 1-2 days a week, and at these amounts it can be a great break for my brain and a great enhancer of conversation, and I feel no negative side effects from it. Any more than this and I would.

Everybody's brain is different, though. My fiancee is happiest not drinking at all. As are both of her friends who are staying with us now.
 
I would really take this with a grain of salt. Lets all drink moderately (IE give our money to the govt in taxes) because a mouse decided to float more than swim after getting fucked up for the past month. No thank you.

Could it be that the mouse was in shit health after consuming alcohol just like I swim poorly after a single night of moderate drinking (and I am a college level athlete)?
 
duh. do the same test with cocaine, meth or almost any other drug and you get the same results.
another study sponsored by the confederation of beweries (or however it's called in the country the study was done)?
 
I've definitely noticed my mood has been low after quitting fairly heavy drinking a week ago. But it really hasn't been that unexpected. It would have been interesting to see a more long term study - what happens after 14 days? They never say whether the number of neural stem cells returns to a normal level, though I'm assuming from the article that this stabilises after the 14 days?
 
Perhaps the reason people feel sad after quitting drinking is due to the psychological want to drink and the feeling of missing drinking when they can not drink. Besides, the mouse test seems inadequate as proof of the researcher's theory.
 
People seem to be taking this the wrong way. The study is not trying to establish that drinking reduces depression in people currently not using/abusing alcohol but that there may be some small symptoms of withdrawal even when alcohol consumption is kept at a moderate state. I would consider this to be a small scientific check on the negative side of alcohol. I have a feeling the researchers believed that there would be some sort of depression because it is experienced by many people; what they found that was new is that biological mechanism that causes the depression.

:p for thinking too hard
 
modular said:
People seem to be taking this the wrong way. The study is not trying to establish that drinking reduces depression in people currently not using/abusing alcohol but that there may be some small symptoms of withdrawal even when alcohol consumption is kept at a moderate state. I would consider this to be a small scientific check on the negative side of alcohol. I have a feeling the researchers believed that there would be some sort of depression because it is experienced by many people; what they found that was new is that biological mechanism that causes the depression.

:p for thinking too hard

I actually read parts of the article over after reading the first few response posts thinking I must have read the conclusions wrong. Yeah, the article is in no way an endorsement of moderate alcohol use. If its conclusions are generalizable to humans and accepted wholesale then never drinking alcohol, or never abstaining from moderate drinking, are the best options for avoiding depression.

article said:
"Thus, people who drink moderate alcohol socially, or for potential health benefits, may experience negative mood or diminished cognitive abilities due to a loss of the brain's ability to form new neurons," he said.

The above quote is poorly chosen and misleading. It should have "[if the moderate drinkers abstain from alcohol for long periods]" tacked on the end of it.

I'd like to know how long it takes for neurogenesis in the hippocampus to return to normal in the abstaining mice. Also, it seems likely that moderate drinkers wishing to abstain from alcohol for a long period could avoid depression by tapering off their use slowly. The whole value of reporting these findings it their potential applicability to human life, yet there's no mention of these considerations in the article (even if the researchers didn't say anything, the questions should be addressed in some way in order to better frame the study's implications.)

At the moment all I can conclude is that I probably shouldn't repeatedly go through a cycle of 28 days of moderate drinking and 14 days of abstinence.
 
AreksPurpose said:
Perhaps the reason people feel sad after quitting drinking is due to the psychological want to drink and the feeling of missing drinking when they can not drink. .
and that class is wat we call common sense =D
 
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