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Will01996

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I am over 50 and never used Ectasy. I see the terms MDMA and Ectasy used in the media a lot. Are they the same drug?

About 30 years ago a lot of friends were experimenting with a drug they called MDA. It was sold in small baggies (white powder). I never tried it, but it was a strong stimulant. I would leave the parties at 1:00 or 2:00 A.M. and everyone else would stay up until 5:00 or 6:00.

What is difference between MDA (used in late 1960's early 1970's) and Ectasy and MDMA.
 
MDMA (3,4-methylenedioxymethamphetamine) is a euphoric stimulant which is also a phenylthylamine, the term ecstasy comes from when people take pills of MDMA mixed with different cuts since MDMA doesn't press when its pure, X can be cut with a wide variety of different compounds from asprin to lsd, it is most likely to be cut with meth, coke, or heroine though. MDA (3,4-methylenedioxyamphetamine) is just like MDMA and has the same side affects as MDMA except it is a little more psychedelic than MDMA. If you have anymore questions just look on erowid.com
 
MDA is the psychedelic version of MDMA, it's also more stimulating.

There's also bk-MBDB | bk-MDEA | bk-MDMA | DMMDA-2 | IAP | MBDB | MDEA | MDMA | MMDA

They are all Empathogen-Entactogens

The terms empathogen and entactogen are different terms used to describe a class of psychoactive drugs that produce distinctive emotional and social effects similar to MDMA ("ecstasy"). Other members of this class are MDA, MDEA, MBDB, and AET. When referring to MDMA and related analogs the term 'MDxx' is often used. Entactogens are often incorrectly referred to as hallucinogens or stimulants. The chemical structure of most entactogens contains a substituted amphetamine core.
 
To cixelsyd: I've never heard of MDMA being cut with LSD-25. As for Cocaine, and Heroin I've only read few cases of that. (Meth)amphetamine, Dxm, Caffeine, Ketamine, Acetaminophen, Diphenhydramine, along with binders, colors, and fillers are fairly common though.

Some info from Dr. Shuglin;
PiHKAL: MDMA (Ecstasy)
PiHKAL: MDA (Adam)

Also as mentioned previously Erowid;
MDMA (Ecstasy) Vault
MDA (Adam) Vault

Hope this helps.
 
To the OP: Ecstasy is the slang term for MDMA. MDMA is closely related to MDA - the main difference is that MDA lasts a bit longer and you are slightly more likely to have mild hallucinations on MDA.

More on MDMA and MDA.

Where it gets complicated: because these drugs are illegal, there is no guarantee that when you buy a pill that is sold as "Ecstasy" that it is really MDMA. It could be MDMA, or meth, or caffeine, or PMA, or nothing. In theory, if you ask for ecstasy, you should get MDMA. In practice, you may not. Check out ecstasydata.org for some idea of what may be in your pills.

To cixelsyd: you're right about MDMA v MDA, but wrong about the cuts. Coke and heroin are almost never found in pills sold as MDMA.
 
cixelsyd said:
MDMA (3,4-methylenedioxymethamphetamine) is a euphoric stimulant which is also a phenylthylamine, the term ecstasy comes from when people take pills of MDMA mixed with different cuts since MDMA doesn't press when its pure, X can be cut with a wide variety of different compounds from asprin to lsd, it is most likely to be cut with meth, coke, or heroine though. MDA (3,4-methylenedioxyamphetamine) is just like MDMA and has the same side affects as MDMA except it is a little more psychedelic than MDMA. If you have anymore questions just look on erowid.com
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Ecstasy is not cut with Coke,LSD, or Heroin.
 
I think it's great that someone who is older and never was exposed to the ecstasy generation would take the time to ask the BL forum for answers. It shows that he really wants to be informed by peolple who would know and isn't just writing it off as an epidemic of a younger generation. This is really the true value of this site.
 
Sim0n said:
To cixelsyd: you're right about MDMA v MDA, but wrong about the cuts. Coke and heroin are almost never found in pills sold as MDMA.
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As I was reading the thread I almost posted this as well but you obviously got to it before me. I don't understand how people are still so misinformed, I thought knowledge was getting better about ecstasy and the MDxx compounds. But stuff like this, and people stating they just bought some 'triple stacked g spots' makes me think otherwise.
 
Thanks for all the info.

Being over 50, I don't run into folks experienced with Ectasy (or willing to admit to experience with ectasy). Some of the kids I worked with look too happy on Friday afternoon to be thinking about just going to dinner and a movie.

I was too timid in the late 1960's, early 1970's to experiment with MDA, but had a lot of friends who took LSD, MDA, etc.
 
Astavats said:
To cixelsyd: I've never heard of MDMA being cut with LSD-25. As for Cocaine, and Heroin I've only read few cases of that. (Meth)amphetamine, Dxm, Caffeine, Ketamine, Acetaminophen, Diphenhydramine, along with binders, colors, and fillers are fairly common though.

Some info from Dr. Shuglin;
PiHKAL: MDMA (Ecstasy)
PiHKAL: MDA (Adam)

Also as mentioned previously Erowid;
MDMA (Ecstasy) Vault
MDA (Adam) Vault

Hope this helps.
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i have heard of people putting one ua of lsd-25 in with the cut for different pills, it would be very hard to do and not worth it, but possible. I don't do X very often i usually stick to tripping and weed and ketamine and stuff but i have heard of this before, but it is very unusual and unlikely.
 
AuraithX said:
Ecstasy is not cut with Coke,LSD, or Heroin.
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i have seen pills cut with coke i know that for a fact because i watched it get tested in front of me, i have never seen a pill tested positive for heroine although i have heard a lot of people say that their pills were supposed to be, but like i said above, and a lot of other people have said, really it could be cut with ANYTHING... so it wouldn't be fair to rule any substance out...
 
cixelsyd said:
i have seen pills cut with coke i know that for a fact because i watched it get tested in front of me, i have never seen a pill tested positive for heroine although i have heard a lot of people say that their pills were supposed to be, but like i said above, and a lot of other people have said, really it could be cut with ANYTHING... so it wouldn't be fair to rule any substance out...
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It's Heroin, not Heroine.

Pills do not contain LSD-25 ever! LSD is a very delicate substance and would be destroyed so many various ways.

There are several reasons people do not use Coke in pills.
1. Coke doesn't really work orally, you need to snort it. The amount you would need to consume orally would be so high that it would be idiotic to put it into cheap ecstasy pills
2. Why use coke thats $40-100 a gram when you can make Meth for pennies. (literally)

There has only been 1 pill that has ever tested positive for Heroin, and by the looks of the pill it was made only to keep the myth running. no pill has ever tested for LSD, and very few have tested for cocaine.

Therefor, it's pretty stupid to say that pills are adulterated with "anything from LSD, to coke, to heroin" as these adulterants are so unlikely to be found that it is not worth mentioning.

I recommend you read this thread;
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showpost.php?p=912506&postcount=5
 
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cixelsyd said:
i have heard of people putting one ua of lsd-25 in with the cut for different pills, it would be very hard to do and not worth it, but possible. I don't do X very often i usually stick to tripping and weed and ketamine and stuff but i have heard of this before, but it is very unusual and unlikely.
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Was the "ua" a mistaken ug (microgram)? I'm not saying it's a impossible event, of course anything (in theory) is possible, but a single microgram wouldn't be a noticeable dosage of LSD-25, as the threshold is 20x that (20ug). It would be a great inconvenience to do so, and since it would have no noticeable differences it would be completely unnecessary to take this extra step.
 
I have never once heard of LSD in ecstasy pills. Real, pure LSD is so rare that it, for all intents and purposes, doesn't exist anymore. Period. In addition, LSD is such a sensitive molecule that any exposure to light, air or anything less than reagent-grade deionized 100% pure water causes isomerization or chlorination to a completely inactive product. In fact, I estimate that a lot of the so-called "LSD" sold during the 1960s was either: (1) something else, like DOM, AMT, etc... or (2) so potent to begin with that it retained psychical activity, despite an 80-90% drop in potency.

I would estimate that most contemporary 'ecstasy' pills contain a small amount of MDMA mixed with methamphetamine, ephedrine and caffeine.
 
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^ LSD is not nonexistant, you just need to know the right people.

I've had 3 active sources for over a year now. :P
 
Looks like this question has been pretty thoroughly answered. Use the search function for more advanced questions related to it.


As for LSD being "nearly extinct", not really too accurate. I've had multiple connections in the past year to bring high quality, high potency blotters and liquid both. You just have to know the right people. It will never, ever be extinct.
 
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