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Hey everyone, I've been using this site for quite a while now with past thoughts, experiences etc but i finally decided to sign up because you all seem like a lovely bunch :).
Basically I has taken ecstasy a few times now, and I has awfully bad nights of trying to sleep.
I has heard that taking 5HTP before going to sleep while on Ecstasy helps him go to the land of nod?
Is this true?
 
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seratonin, which 5htp works on, will help you sleep, but it is by no means a guarantee. try melatonin, much more reliable. warm milk will help too.

and cut the SWIM bullshit
 
thank you :D, where can i get melatonin from? I've tried Holland and barretts and they basically up front said 'depends'.
And sorry about that, new to all this stuff :) thank you :D
 
Melatonin is prescription-only in Australia and the UK, as far as I know. If you're in the US or Canada, you can get it over the counter at most vitamin/health stores and even many grocery stores.

To elaborate a little on what rincewindrocks said, melatonin is part of the metabolic pathway that includes 5-HTP and serotonin. Disregarding byproducts and cofactors and skipping a step or two (writing this on my phone, sorry), the pathway is as follows: dietary trypthopan (e.g. from meat, etc. or supplements) -> 5-HTP -> 5-HT (serotonin) -> melatonin. Melatonin is instrumental in regulating the body's circadian rhythm, but research is still out on how much oral supplements really help. The consensus seems to be that less is more, with 3mg or less being the recommended dose. Personally, I feel like it takes the edge off, but that might just be the placebo effect at work. 8)
 
^^ive found melatonin for me to be the only consistent sleep aid that doesnt leave me groggy and feeling like shit the whole next day. that being said, it doesnt always seem to work
 
melatonin is wonderful.

if your having trouble sleeping on e it's probably cut with speed. And trust me, melatonin does NOT help at ALL with speed
 
Melatonin doesn't really help at all with sleeping if you took too much.
Remember, MDMA is an amphetamine and a stimulant by itself, so if you take too much (even if its 100% pure) ur not going to sleep no matter what.
Lots of rolls have other stims in them in addition to MDxx, so you can dance all night instead of just chillling on the floor

Also, I recently tried to use melatonin to sleep after my last roll. Normally if I were to take a 3mg melatonin I would be struggling to remain awake within 20-30 min and would go to sleep quickly.
However this time, the melatonin did not affect me at all. It didn't even make me drowsy.
I think this is because MDMA really depletes your serotonin levels, and since melatonin is related to serotonin and is made from it, maybe because of this deficiency I was not able to fall asleep.
Once you have enough melatonin in your system, you start to get really drowsy (like when you get sleepy at night, this is because enough melatonin has been produced from your serotonin)
But since rolling creates a deficeincy of serotonin, then my body could not come close to producing the amount of melatonin I would need to sleep, and because of that the pill wouldn't have much effect.
 
Thanks everyone :)
I've come to the conclusion then that maybe it's better to stay awake when rolling? So as to keep an eye on your body, your hydration levels, body temp etc.
I just love sleep so much :( lol
 
xtcbiz said:
Melatonin doesn't really help at all with sleeping if you took too much.
Remember, MDMA is an amphetamine and a stimulant by itself, so if you take too much (even if its 100% pure) ur not going to sleep no matter what.QUOTE]

That isn’t really true - its nothing like an amphetamine and works in a different way. Sleeping after clean MDMA shouldn’t really be a problem as its effects are relatively short acting and very relaxing. (yes I know its called xxxmethamphetamine but it not meth or amphetamine as you would normally think)

I can fall asleep after taking MDMA with no problem at all - if however people are taking pills then caffeine is normally in play giving a stim like effect (thats if there is no other active adulterant).

To answer the OP 5HTP 'after' a roll can help you sleep.
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xtcbiz said:
Melatonin doesn't really help at all with sleeping if you took too much.
Remember, MDMA is an amphetamine and a stimulant by itself, so if you take too much (even if its 100% pure) ur not going to sleep no matter what..
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I think you need to buy a test kit. maybe your not getting what you think your getting.
Quite possibly your one of those who have been raised believing that pipes are in fact mdma.
No matter how much mdma you have you should have no problems sleeping if thats the only active ingredient.

Sadly thats rarely true though and often its laced with caffeine and that may affect some.

Personally I cannot sleep after pipes or if the gear is laced with meth amphetamine which is also common.

However im usually aware whats in them before i take them so its never been a drama to me.

But anytime I have real mdma I never have a problem sleeping. I can even sleep while going hard if i wanted to.
 
I meant when you take A LOT, not just 1 or 2 pills
(Like 4+)
I've had no trouble sleeping on just 1 or 2 pills, but if you take a lot, then you are going to be definetly too overstimulated to sleep in my experiences
 
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