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DXM (360 mg, 165 lbs) - First time - Bad Trip

Salphyus

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After reading trip reports and general information on dextromethorphan I decided that I would try it; it was an easy drug to get with a very low risk level. So last night I scoured three of my local drug stores and supermarkets looking for Robitussin Max., only to fail in finding it (do they not sell it in Canada anymore?). Eventually I settled on “DM Cough Syrup” (what I assumed was the Safeway brand equivalent), picking up the box I laughed to myself at how proudly it displayed the “Safeway Select” logo, denoting its inferiority (though this law rarely applies to medicine). It was a 120 ml bottle with 15 mg per 5 ml, dextromethorphan hydrobromide being the only active ingredient. While reading the inactive ingredients I was a little set back when noticing that it included glycerin and used sodium cyclamate and sodium sorbitol solution as sweeteners, which I had heard can induce vomiting and diarrhea, though due to the limited choice I decided to buy it anyway.

As I am 16 and still living at home I waited until my parents had gone to bed (approx. 1:10 am) and took a few swigs of the syrup, I decided that it wasn’t all that bad and stupidly tipped the remainder of the bottle into a salty beef soup I was eating at the time. Of course since it was heavier than the soup it all sunk to the bottom and made eating the last of the soup utterly revolting. I experienced some slight nausea until I washed the sickeningly sweet taste out of my mouth under the tap. I polished off the bottle at exactly 1:15 am and went to go watch T.V for the half-hour I’d heard it takes to kick in. While watching the porno “Carnal Desires” I suddenly realized that I was feeling a little light-headed, I stood up and got what felt like a head rush but what was clearly not, looking at the stove-clock it was exactly 1:45 am. I gathered up a few things and left the house for a night on the town.

As more and more time passed I started to get increasingly light headed and carefree, several times I realized that I’d been smiling for several minutes and not been aware. As I got closer into town I began to lose my sense of time, it seemed as though I’d been walking for half an hour but when judging by the distance I’d traveled it couldn’t have been more than 5 minutes. Also I noticed that I felt like I swaying back and forth slightly and that it felt as though my knees were not fully bending. I decided to head to the only store in my small town that stays open all-night, 7-11 and buy a bottle of water as I’ve heard it can increase the experience. As I approached the door I decided to see if I could walk normally and cover up that I was on something, I found I mostly could though I let myself go and walked naturally around the store to the water and then the check-out. Outside the store while struggling to open the bottle I noticed two people about my age sitting on the curb, one asked me if I was looking for something. I told him I wasn’t. A few seconds later he said that the water “cures the hang-over”, I laughed as chugging cough syrup is unheard of in my town and he must have thought I was drunk out of my mind (though ironically I’ve heard that water helps with DXM hangovers too). After I had wrestled the bottle open it began to rain and not wanting to spend the rest of my trip soaking wet I ran to a covered area beside a bank, which was a truly wonderful experience, pure pleasure was pumping through my veins moving that quickly full of dex. Unfortunately standing there was when my trip started to turn sour.

Walking back the way I’d come I started to notice how completely empty my town was this late at night (estimate: 2:45 am), and I started to feel a strong pang of loneliness. This feeling got much worse as time passed until I was feeling severely depressed, I started looking around for another person, anyone but I couldn’t see anything, not even a car going by. I decided to make my way home. Walking home I started experiencing the beginning of the peak of the trip and saw/heard mild visuals/auditories. Thinking I’d heard a group of people laughing I’d rip off my headphones and spin about only to realize it was just rain water trickling down into the sewer. Every bench I saw I’d think there was someone sitting on it I could talk to, every mailbox or street sign was a person. (At this point I tried to save the trip by changing the song on my MP3 player to something a little happier, I noticed that I couldn’t focus on the back-lit screen properly unless I held it at about arm’s distance away.) These experiences left me feeling even worse every time they happened. Images of my ex-girlfriends and old friends went in and out of my mind and I felt a strong sense of nostalgia, not for a particular person, but just for another human being. I began to get a sense of how strongly I’ve been repressing my loneliness for so long. Looking at my reflection in the same shop windows I’d laughed at earlier on I examined my face, I was shocked at how furrowed my brow was, and how clearly the emotion of intense sorrow and an almost comical degree of grief was expressed on my face. I would have laughed at how theatrical my expression looked if I hadn’t of felt so completely terrible. Stopping to rest a moment beside a tree I couldn’t stop myself from stroking its bark and wrapping my arms around it for a minute, as if I could turn it into a person. Within a few moments I realized I was being stupid and left the tree alone, continuing on my way.

Thinking I saw someone in a large grey coat I quickened my pace full of hope, turning the corner I was surprised to find that it was in fact a real person walking his or her dog. I considered running up to them and trying to talk but I turned and walked away, I knew I’d only frighten them by robo-stalking them in the dead of night. Nearly home I took a different, longer route through Safeway’s parking lot, as during the better part of the trip I’d noticed two police cars sitting there and hoped that maybe they’d think I was drunk and stop me, giving me someone to talk to. Unfortunately, (or perhaps fortunately) they were no longer there and so I walked home through a park that I’ve seen people hanging out in late at night, but this too was empty. Eventually I got my miserable self home and into bed, once I was back in my house and out of that wet, lonely environment the trip got a little better. I put on some music which was somewhat enhanced even this late in the trip (4:00 am) and writhed about under my sheets, every time I moved a sense of pleasure flowed through my entire body and I was smiling again. It was a strange feeling, moving made me feel better than I had ever felt before although I didn’t really want to since I was feeling quite tired. I fell asleep at about 5:45 am as the trip ended and woke up feeling totally refreshed, it is now 3:00 pm the same day and I’m writing this with a great afterglow feeling. (Maybe I’m enjoying this instead of the infamous DXM hangover because of the large bottle of water I drank?)

Looking back over the report I’ve just written I know I haven’t done a very good job at expressing exactly how badly I felt, but I’m sure whoever’s reading this will understand that it’s impossible to describe a bad trip to anyone who has never experienced one. I’ve been wanting to try acid for some time now, but after last night’s adventure I’m beginning to think that I’m not currently at a point in my life where this would be such a good idea (***any thoughts on this would be appreciated***).

I apologize for the length of my report, but I think that trip reports serve their purpose best if they are as detailed as possible.
 
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Salphyus said:
Looking back over the report I’ve just written I know I haven’t done a very good job at expressing exactly how badly I felt, but I’m sure whoever’s reading this will understand that it’s impossible to describe a bad trip to anyone who has never experienced one. I’ve been wanting to try acid for some time now, but after last night’s adventure I’m beginning to think that I’m not currently at a point in my life where this would be such a good idea (***any thoughts on this would be appreciated***).

Don't ever for one minute think that LSD and DXM will produce the same trip. Dxm is often haunted with "dark" or negative stigma (which I would blame on it's disassociative qualities), whereas LSD... you just can't properly describe.

Remember when you were saying you were slipping back into old thoughts, about old girlfriends and the like. If you were thinking heavily about it, there's something there then you haven't been able to let go, something still nags you about it. THink of tripping as a tool for a purpose, you were supposed to cover all that in your trip so afterwards you could properly mentally address it. Bad trips are just as effective and educational as good trips.

If there is one piece of advice I could offer, it would be don't be discouraged by this, and as my old wise friend plazma would say "Get back on the fucking horse" =D

and and and...that was your first Bluelight post and you said

I apologize for the length of my report, but I think that trip reports serve their purpose best if they are as detailed as possible.

You are so welcome back here at any time =D Seriously, that's pretty much straight out of the guidelines, and it's positively awesome to see new users with the same perspective.
 
Well thank you for making me feel welcome. I certainly will continue to safely experiment here and there although next time I will make sure to do so in a less rainy, cold environment, and not alone.
 
Good read.

One thing I have a question about you said you were 16, isn't there a curfew in canada? I know here in california under 18 during summer is 11pm I believe and during school year 10pm. I'm glad the cops didnt stop you they would have for sure seen your pupils and tripping while inside a cop car sounds like a plan for disastor, let alone sneaking out of your parents house. A 16 year old robo-walking around at 2:45 sure does look suspicious. Tripping is a learning experience. Some are good some are bad. It's the risk we take ;)
 
Though I don't stay as up to date on Canadian politics as I'd like to as far as I know there is no curfew right now anywhere in Canada. Sometime during 1968 or 1969 when the radical Quebcois seperatist group, the FLQ were violently active Pierre Trudeau enacted a temporary curfew in Quebec. I'm upset to hear that you have one in California, as far as my understanding of the American law system goes that law is unconstitutional and infringes on your civil rights.

Before I left the house I examined my pupils in the mirror and they appeared normal, but the trip had only just begun. Haha, yes being driven home by the police and having to explain to my parents that I was strolling around town tripping on cough syrup would not be a cool situation.
 
Re: Re: DXM (360 mg, 165 lbs) - First time - Bad Trip

Mean Girl said:
Don't ever for one minute think that LSD and DXM will produce the same trip. Dxm is often haunted with "dark" or negative stigma (which I would blame on it's disassociative qualities), whereas LSD... you just can't properly describe.
^^ I agree. DXM is more often than not dysphoric for me, whereas LSD is often highly euphoric. Done in the right setting, LSD is pretty hard to have a bad time on.

Of course, I would never recommend you do drugs. Drugs are bad.

Yeah, and excellent first-time post. ;)
 
A curfew? That's really wierd, I thought that only happened when like, there were serial killers or aliens besieging the town. Haha....

Yeah, I live in British Columbia, and I've never heard of a curfew anywhere except in special cases.
 
Hehe.. Brang back some weird memories of my few DXM experiences. I remember robo-stalking some people that I thought were trying to hide from me. I walked faster and faster in the dark, until I saw they were walking a dog.. Then they turned into a wheely bin.. then that bin dissapeared... :/ hehe

I love the sound of rainwater travelling down the gutters and into sewer grates.... so euphoric ;)
 
I'm done with DXM for the time being, but i've had some great experiences on it. One that really comes to mind when i hear about DXM is tripping on 750 mg during a heavy thunderstorm at a friend's apartment, which was very surreal to say the least. I was irrational enough to go outside and look at the scenery/listen to the sounds, but it was like i was just part of the storm, and/or absorbing it, and the lightning felt like it was striking me every time i heard it, but pleasantly, and strangly empowering. The sounds of the storm basically turned into beautiful music, with perfect rythum, and seemed vaguely familiar. Hard to describe high dose disassociative trips.
 
i've had a couple times over 1000mg on the dex, but never had a "bad trip" on any dose. i guess that i'm just OK with myself. maybe the arch-typical teenage angst is got you down? a few ideas-

1- don't let your parents catch you on cough syrup. they will NOT understand

2- try to stay in a house next time, so you can control your trip envioment better

3- just chug the shit....nothing you can do to make it taste better....only make MORE of it for you to drink:p GAG
 
fuck, some of you guys have taken ALOT of DXM.
i rememeber my first go at that, i had about 150 mls of the cough surip, cant remember how much dex was in each ml , but after two hours i felt so fucking ill, i just went and had a massive spew and fuck me dayz i felt like i was king of the world, went and playied some pool, then about the 3 hour mark went and had a massive session, which just lifted me through the roof, just going through these different platou's.
was wicked., so give it another go, but maybe take a smaller dose?? and i FULLY recommend having a sesh around the 2.5-3 hour mark after u have drank that nasty stuff.
 
Yeah sensitivity to DXM is hugely variable. I am one who is incredibly sensitive to it, or a poor metabolizer or whatever, and anything over 300mg makes me sicker than sick. I personally don't enjoy the robotrip much at full-on doses, but I eventually discovered what I like most is adding like 50mg of it on top of other trips. I can't/won't/don't do weed anymore and DXM is actually a pretty decent alternative way to augment the effects of other psychedelics.
 
Salphyus your thread got me started on a little research hunt, and here is what i have found out, you were on what is called a "Second Plateau" trip.
You had 4.8 mg of dextromethorphan per kg of your body.
here is a link with alot more info, enjoy:

http://www.dextromethorphan.ws/dxmguide.htm

cu!
 
my dxm experiences

i did dxm several times about 10 years ago i guess....2nd level i guess...but i was mixing it with lots of good pot and nitrous.....so i really do not have any specific recall of anything special

i guess the amount of pot and nitrous i did....on top of my other psychedelic experiences...left dxm in the nothing to really write home about file....at least in 2nd level usage

level 3 and 4 scare me a bit...hmm...i did do herotic dosages of shrooms in my day

the lower level 1 also interests me...since there has been serious research in using dxm as a opiate potentiator for pain control....but i think some studies were negative
 
lol i find the image of someone 'robo-stalking' a random in the middle of the night fucking hilarious!
 
Great report! I just feel bad that you had such a negative experience on your first trip. I've done DXM a few times (Just levels 1 and 2) and loved it every time. Being in a good environment helps a LOT with it. Have friends do it with you, be relaxed, plan ahead. You might also want to start off with a slightly smaller dose and see how you like it. Like maybe 2mg/kg. 360 is a lot for a first time dose when you don't know how you'll react (At least in my opinion).
 
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