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Drug induced ADD??

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delroy

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Just a question - probably me just being paranoid and a touch melodramatic, but i have noticed after going out pretty consistently for the last two years or so (i know i shouldnt have overdone it and am now feeling the direct consequences of my actions
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) a number of things have occured :
* i have the attention span of a gnat (or shorter) sometimes as short as 10 seconds
* i am almost unable to sit still for long periods of time and get almost an uncontrollable restlessness
* i also have trouble remembering anything which i have learnt - not terribly good being in my last year of engineering
All of these things have led me to speculate that i may have developed some of these things from dropping just a bit too much. I also find that i can only really study when i have heaps of caffeine to make me concentrate. A friend of mine likened this to ADD and i was wondering if people had similar experiences after overdoing it and what they might have done to combat it.
I maybe blowing things out of proportion but this didnt happen to me before i started going out and the more time i take off (2-3 week period) the worse my restlessness seems to get. It could be as simple as getting lots of rest, which i wouldn't normally get after a big weekend, or something a lot worse. I have noticed these symptoms in people who have way overdone it and end up labelled drug-fucked.
 
Well I'm also curious to find this out because I'm getting simular symptons, esp the short attention span, although I've always had a problem with that but not as bad as now. The restlessness has been a prob for awhile and same goes with the memory loss, but I just put that down to taking drugs and the damage that goes along with it.
I don't really know if I'd link this to ADD, but still I'd be intrested to find out.
 
Cool does this mean we get to take ADD drugs as well?
What was I talking about again... I cant remember... I've lost concentration... is this the Mary Tyler Moore appreciation board?
 
Yeh have noticed the same as well.
What i thought about doin was seeing if i could get shit prescribed to me for ADD. But if i told them why i had it they probably wouldnt let me. Is worth a try. Goto docs and say i have drug induced add, can ya help me out.
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I see u laidher.
 
im doing the first year of a finance degree and struggling to keep up, well actually to turn up. I sometimes use ritalin to help me study, i dont have ADD i just get it off my brother.
i reckon just take a months break, spend your weekends at the pub, keep it local.
 
This is seriously disturbing. Look after yourselves people please. Hopefully the problem will repair if the brain is rested for a long time. Guess it would be bad to rely on ADD medication to resolve the problem in the long run.
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Izzy wizzy let's get busy
 
ye I know exactly what you mean. The freaky
thing is the restlessness\nervous energy
seems to get a whole lot worse the longer
I have a break, even after two months time.
I get tempted to go out and roll just to be
calm during the week. It's all a bit scary.
How often do you take 5htp. I take it every
day now which seems to help. Tried samE
made it 10 times worse. Saint Johns wart seems
to help to. Starting to think mabey SSRI'S
but thats last resort, but ye ADD seems to
expain the symptoms perfectly. Ok now I'm
worried. Damn. Pass me a HQ please. By the
way I only drop every 3 to 4 weeks on average
I know it's a bit to much, but It aint that bad.
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if you think you have the symptoms then just be honest with your doctor.
in sydney they have a clinic which deals with adult ADD. you'll need a referral from your doctor.
what i find strange is that it's ok to prescribe amphetmines to 11yo's, yet if you're an adult it's illegal for you to choose to consume the same substance.
 
it's legal to prescribe morphine to a kid with cancer, but you can't choose to take that substance either.
It's treating (apparently) a disorder, thats why they prescribe it.
 
I was hoping to avoid fighting chemicals with chemicals because i always believe that anything artificial put into your body is going to cause side effects and i have enough side effects as it is.
It appears however that the simpsons, being the wealth of information that they are, have come up with a bit of an answer in their bi-weekly mumblings :
focusin prof : this drug is great, it increases concentration, willingness to work and motivation, the only thing more effective is regular exercise
homer : oooooooeeeeerrr........
(i must excuse the inexact quoting of the simpsons - memory's not what it used to be :p )
I have actually found this to be relatively effective in getting rid of the edge created by restlessness and enabling me to concentrate for a bit, although i find i really have to get decent exercise 4 - 5 times a week to make a real difference.
Apart from that i have found little else, i have time off between exams now and will go see a doctor just to get an expert opinion.
By the way, a friend of mine took 5-htp quite a lot (almost daily) and ended up having massive trouble sleeping and nausea when without it.
 
I just wanted to express my concern for all those that have got these symptoms. I think a major part of taking pills is being safe and keeping your body in as good-a-condition-as-can-be.
So please take care. Might I back up j_swift with the honesty part here. This is something serious that you have to deal with. When you think about it, as much as you will joke, we aren't taking these things for the rest of our lives. Look at the big picture for a while and figure out what is more important. Your overall long-term health is more of an issue than a little embarassment and shame in front of your doctor.
I know that it sounds stupid because we all know that drugs are badd mmmmmkay.... But this is quite distressing so I just want to make sure you are all being careful. It wont harm you to see a doctor and tell him your problems. They will most likely know more than we do.
Please take care and look after yourselves.
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*Immerse Your Soul In Love*
 
scotty -> i'd do a bit of reading up on serotinin receptor downregulation pretty soon.
i'm certainly not an expert on the field (give me a coupla years, yay Bs in neurobiology), but i have read enough to only use HTP as a pre-post load tool. i'm worried as hell at the moment about the short term memory loss and lack of vocal articlulation (worring as i'm in the process of going through many job interviews at the moment.. its hard to explain why i keep blurting thoughts out rather than crafting sentances).
just something to look into.
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p.l.u.b
(peace.love.unity.bulbs)
> gratuitiously stolen from icantfeelmylegs.
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dv8
 
The thing i cant understand is when people first get into e they say how harmless it is and then two years down the track they're like my memory is fucked and etc. I have been tacking for a year and have noticed that i cant feel happy emotions as well. My vision is a little blurry and sometimes i completely forget something that happened a few minutes ago. I have been trying to talk my self out of not having it any more but its hard as eee is very mentally addictive.
Lets thing about it you can drink and have an okay night.
OR on the other hand you can have a pill and have a fuckin ball and dance tilll early morning hours and still not be tried.
Even if both of these is done in moderation
one of these options makes you sick for a few days.
the other one may cause you to have cronnic depression and a fucked up memory. Even a bad night sometimes
I know which one i would like to chose but i cant help taking pills as it is fuckin awesome.
i guess time will tell
 
This happened to me a while ago. So I just took 6 months off (I know, killer) and read a lot of books. Actually, read anything I could get my hands on.
I figure the brain is like any other part of the body. Fill it full of crap and it starts to lag. Excercise it and give it plenty of rest and it gets better.
Just my theory anyhoo!
 
Taking MDMA regularly over a few years, even once a month for some people, will often result in symptoms people are describing above. Please realise that more than likely you will come right, it just takes time. Early nights, exercise and good eating really do make a difference.
I often mention L-tryptophan. It is good for correcting some serotonin imbalances, has vitually no side effects and can also help you sleep. It doesn't work for everyone and you need to see your doctor to get 500mg tablets. Taking 2 of these is like eating 10 bananas.
Have faith, and realise that once you work out what levels and activities you can indulge in that don't cause you to end up worse off mentally and physically, rollin after recovery may again be possible.
After years of hard play I now find a small amount once every 4-5 weeks, ( and some time off each term ) with good prep and recovery pratice, produces little if any adversity. However, a big night will still leave me fucked for a week. It certainly didn't in the early days, but I've concluded that for me, from now on any big one probably will.
Also most important is a good recovery sleep and no stress on the days following. If you establish your limits and plan your drug taking to fit in with your other commitments, you will have produced a most important tool needed to maintain non-problematic drug use - that of personal management.
I don't imply that this will prevent all possible damage from drug taking. Minimising risks is what it is all about, and no-one can argue that no indulgence is safer than any. Yeah, well knitting may be safer than rollin, and both can produce a comfortable result, but I know which I think of when tunes are playing.
Study is difinitely a good form of "stress" to improve thinking/concentrating skills. Above all, find pleasure in everything you can. Good thoughts from you = a + change in serotonin levels (if ever so slight)
May you have many
phase_dancer
 
...and don't underestimate the importance of a good diet
carbs help with brain function & concentration
lay off the sugar
and excercise too...
also I think Blufluffyetc has a good pt in that actually concentrating on concentrating can improve concentrating...give yourself something you're interested in and you might find that you're not getting as distracted
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I have a short attention span too but I think it's just because i find most things boring
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I have an extremely short attention span, but I've been like that since I was a child at school.
What helps me improve that is the internet believe it or not, because you can look at ANYTHING!!!!!!!!!! and you don't get bored as easily.
However playing something like Tetris or reading a really good book (it has to be pretty damn good though) will find me sitting on my ass for hours, but other than that my attention span is something ridiculous like 7 mins if that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have been on a break for a few weeks and although I've had a few hiccups it has helped heaps, but still everyone be careful with the pills!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Not to be picky or anything pekkie but the average attention span for humans is 30 seconds (length of a tv advertisement) so if yours is 7 mins i think the drugs are helping you.
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i too agree with blufluff and milkybar, i sat down the other night and made an effort to stop figgetting while reading through uni notes and found that once i calmed down and both actively concentrated on not moving and on reading my notes, i was able to remember what i read and understand it as well.
It was a weird feeling, kinda like meditation because i was able to concentrate (there goes that word again) on reading and not let anything else distract me, something i havent been able to do in a long time. I think that and the bananas and the regular exercise i have been getting have both improved my ability to think clearly and gotten rid of some of the worrying signs i spoke of before.
Dont get me wrong tho, i am not saying that there are no residual effects and that i am 100%. I still believe that anyone who reaches this stage needs a break and that is what i am currently taking.
 
I noticed that before I stopped and went on my rather long break (indefinately) I was getting to the stage that anything made me cry, I didn't want to sit still and I was overly emotional at the drop of a pin. Now since my 3 month + break from everything other than the odd bulb (can't say no to them) I feel fantastic again. My emotions aren't all over the place and hardly anything bores me except people who have a jaded opinion on drugs (boyfriends parents.. ie. drug takers are thiefs and prostitutes.. hmm I just sit there and think if they only knew the amount I used to take and I never stole or prostituted myself) anyway back on topic.. even though there is no real evidence I think MDMA causes depression.
 
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