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Drug Abuse Amongst Doctors

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daddysgone

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Ive been thinking about this issue for a short while. I know there is a fairly high level of prescription drug abuse (especially opioids) amongst doctors. Initially one would suspect that this relatively high level of abuse is largely due to doctors' ease of access to these controlled substances. After all, one assumes that a doctor can much easier acquire a bottle of oxycontin, then a plumber. However, when thinking more about it, it occurs to me that it is likely nowhere near as easy for doctors to acquire these drugs then I initially thought. Obviously doctors have the authority to prescribe controlled substances. But I highly doubt that doctors would prescribe THEMSELVES these substances- in fact Im not even sure if this would be allowed by law. But even if their is no law against it, I cant imagine any doctor would be dumb enough to prescribe himself a controlled drug like oxycontin on the sort of continuous basis that would be needed to support an addiction.
So if indeed my premise is correct, it would seem that doctors would need to go through the same channels as the rest of us when seeking to acquire controlled drugs. Specifically, I imagine a doctor would have to see another doctor in order to obtain prescriptions for these drugs. And I seriously doubt that their fellow doctors would just write whatever script they asked for, simply because they are both doctors.

So, am i missing anything here? Am I incorrect in the assumptions Ive made? Are there other sources that docs have access to that allow them to have a virtual buffet to these controlled substances?

Anyhow, i guess there is no real point to this thread, im just a curious person and found myself pondering this issue today. so, any thoughts??? DG
 
exactly, they have a bestfriend, they go through a couple fake doctors appointments, fake xrays too make it look legit in the book. They start out small, like percocets for a month, then 10mg oxy for 2 months then 30mg for 2 months, and so on and so forth.
 
I see. I considered this as a likely possibility. So i was correct in assuming that they dont simply write scripts for their own narcotics. Just out of curiosity, even though this would be incredibly stupid and instantly arouse the suspicion of the DEA, in any case, would it be LEGAL for a doc to write a script for his own narcotic?

Anyhow, so it sounds like in order to obtain these narcotics, the docs write scripts for their friends and have them fill the scripts. However, if i were a doc, i would be quite nervous that if the DEA looked into me, they would easily be able to connect me to my buddy or buddies who were being written scripts for narcotics. Is this a real concern, or as long as you are documenting everything and things appear on the up and up, you will be left alone?
 
My sister used to work for a recruiting company that staffed docs for the ER and pharmacists in hospitals. She used to tell me that it is really common for docs and pharms to have drug problems. Who knows how common it is, but I'm sure most of them have sampled the goods plenty of times.
 
true story

there was a dr. in my area (syracuse, n.y.) that got arrested last year for prescribing oxycontin to his patients and they would have to come back with the script and give him half of every script. his name was dr. black and he and his wife were arrested last year and they found almost 1000 pills at his house. thats a true story and the worst part is i use to have to see him once a yr. to be fit tested to wear a respirator in my line of work. if i woulda known that he did that i woulda been in oxy heaven till he got busted.
 
I'm sure some do it, but most doctors I know take their jobs very seriously and wouldn't even consider risking the remote chance of being caught. It would not only end their career permanently, but it would ruin their life as they would get jail time and it would be all over the news. The risk far outweighs the benefit. It takes at least 12 years and hundreds of thousands of dollars to become a doctor. It also takes an incredible amount of determination, skill, drive and perseverance. Most of the people who make it to the end are the polar opposite of the type of people who typically exhibit drug seeking behavior. They are typically very satisfied with their quality of life, and let's face it...the majority of hard drug users take drugs to escape from life problems. Like I said, I'm sure there are plenty of doctors who do, just as there is corruption in almost any profession, but I think it's more of a rare exception.
 
dumbdrunk said:
there was a dr. in my area (syracuse, n.y.) that got arrested last year for prescribing oxycontin to his patients and they would have to come back with the script and give him half of every script. his name was dr. black and he and his wife were arrested last year and they found almost 1000 pills at his house. thats a true story and the worst part is i use to have to see him once a yr. to be fit tested to wear a respirator in my line of work. if i woulda known that he did that i woulda been in oxy heaven till he got busted.
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See...that's just a moron. The more people that know about your dirty little secret, the higher chance you will have of getting caught. All he has to do is piss off one of these many patients and they have the power to completely ruin his life. I'm surprised someone with the intelligence to become a doctor would do something so incredibly stupid.
 
OverDriven said:
I'm sure some do it, but most doctors I know take their jobs very seriously and wouldn't even consider risking the remote chance of being caught. It would not only end their career permanently, but it would ruin their life as they would get jail time and it would be all over the news. The risk far outweighs the benefit. It takes at least 12 years and hundreds of thousands of dollars to become a doctor. It also takes an incredible amount of determination, skill, drive and perseverance. Most of the people who make it to the end are the polar opposite of the type of people who typically exhibit drug seeking behavior. They are typically very satisfied with their quality of life, and let's face it...the majority of hard drug users take drugs to escape from life problems. Like I said, I'm sure there are plenty of doctors who do, just as there is corruption in almost any profession, but I think it's more of a rare exception.
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Absolutely true. I agree with everything you said. However, the fact remains that there are doctors out there (my guess is more then you think) that do indeed abuse their ability acquire these drugs. Despite having a successful and meaningful career, there exist a good many doctors who are miserable. Take misery and add access to drugs, you have a perfect situation for someone to take advantage of their power, and seek ways to acquire drugs.

and please remember, the purpose of this thread was to discuss the methods these docs use to skirt the system and acquire the narcotics they seek. Theres no real point in discussing how stupid it is, or speculate on how common it is. any other ideas/ stories from anyone?? thanks -DG
 
daddysgone said:
I see. I considered this as a likely possibility. So i was correct in assuming that they dont simply write scripts for their own narcotics. Just out of curiosity, even though this would be incredibly stupid and instantly arouse the suspicion of the DEA, in any case, would it be LEGAL for a doc to write a script for his own narcotic?
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Doctors cannot write out prescriptions to themselves, it is illegal. They have to be prescribed controlled substances from another doctor.
 
daddysgone said:
and please remember, the purpose of this thread was to discuss the methods these docs use to skirt the system and acquire the narcotics they seek.
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I'm pretty sure this is going to get this thread closed. It's against forum rules as far as I know.
 
It seems like a really stupid thing to risk your career on. Imagine spending a decade of study and a 6 digit figure to become a doctor, only to lose it all because you wanted to get high.

That said I'm sure it would be pretty easy for them to do. But the consequance of getting caught is so great that I don't see why they would.
 
i know of someone who is a doctor and used in his early years of being a doctor, abuse drugs that he would prescribe himself or simply steal from the hospital

needless to say he doesnt do it anymore, or i would be one happy guy
 
I don't know about doctors per say, but I know a pharmacist who will sell you entire bottles of whatever you want. No prescription necessary. So yeah, a virtual buffet as you put it. I don't understand how he doesn't catch the notice of the DEA seeing as he regularly sells entire bottles of Oxycontin, Dilaudid, etc.

That's crazy stuff. Doctors make a lot of money, so it certainly isn't worth the legal ramifications. Pharmacists make quite a bit less than private practitioners, so I can see how they'd be more likely to go crooked. Plus they are physically surrounded by pills all day. I know the pharmacists are especially tempted when they're supposed to throw out expired meds. Would you rather destroy a bottle of 500 expired narcotic pills, or sell it unscrupulously for $2,000?
 
as far as medical professionals go, doctors seem to have the least amount of issues with dipping into their own script pads.

however, more and more anesthesiologists are become addicts because it's so much more easy for them.

http://www.menshealth.com/cda/artic...item=d7a4dfaa4d41e010VgnVCM20000012281eac____

i believe it's that specific article in which one of them speaks of siphoning medication from EVERY SINGLE PATIENT he's had, leaving them all with those horrible stories of waking up and being paralyzed. feeling every cut and tear.

as if it's not frightening enough.
 
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the man that is featured in that article is a fellow bluelighter, we're proud to have him :)
 
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the man that is featured in that article is a fellow bluelighter, we're proud to have him :)
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IS this true? Or are u just joking....or perhaps making an educated guess lol.
Regardless, siphoning off drugs from patients who are in need is an absolutely vile, selfish and cruel thing to do. If he is indeed a fellow bluelighter, Im not so sure we should be "proud to have him"

Regarding the comment that this thread will get closed- Im not sure exactly what rule im violating in this thread. First off, Im not a doc, so Im not looking for ways to script myself drugs. Second, Im not providing info on how to engage in illegal activity. I truly just found myself curious regarding docs and prescription drug abuse and made a thread in order to inquire about it. If ive broken some rule which i was unaware of, i apologize and obviously have no problem with the thread being closed. Otherwise, id love to hear some more stories or thought on the issue.

For the record- I completely agree that a doc risking his career so that he can cop a few prescriptions is the height of stupidity. -DG
 
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