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Misc dont want to move on stimulants

sackynut

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Whenever I do stimulants (including caffeine) I get an urge to not do anything. Its almost like I want to sleep, but attempting to sleep leads to me rolling around restless in bed. Occasionally I get energy bursts, especially if I dont think about it. For example if I did MDMA at home I would just want to sit around doing nothing, driving doesnt even appeal to me. But if I were to do MDMA somewhere else and go party it might make me more energized.

I get a strange body high thats almost dissacociating at times. This happens with almost all stimulants, especially psychs!!!

Its also extremely hard to urinate (Ive gotta push hard) on any stimulant including psychs, but I have to urinate more frequently, its an odd contradiction.

One would think taking an almost opposite drug like benzos would have the opposite effect (lower inhibition) but I dont want to do anything on benzos either. But this isnt caused by some sort of over-stimulation body high, the benzo laziness is just caused by the sedating effects

I figure this is just some sort of over stimulation of my senses, but insight into this phenomena appreciated!

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I've also noticed this...I've fallen asleep as I came up on speed and actually napped for about 45 minutes; I also very serenely drifted off after bombing about 330mg of crstally mephedrone. Can also nap after having strong coffee. Weird!!
 
yea me too. caffeine makes me turn into a twitching fool with a racing heart and being all sweaty. i don't understand why the fuck everyone drinks coffee. i mean, there's so much better shit out there like yerba mate, tea, cocoa, coca, ginseng, gotu kola. caffeine is the absolute worst on its own!
 
haha good stuff im glad to see other people experience this! i totally feel like I could run a 10k marathon, but at the same time I start nodding off. i just took a nap after making this thread, like 30ish minutes after downing a full size rockstar energy drink...
 
I get the same effect. There are a couple of possible explanations for this that I am aware of:

1) Some ppl experience a paradoxical effect from certain drugs, that is they experience the opposite reaction then is normally experienced. Why this happens I do not know. On meth I feel tired but on heroin I feel energized. I tend to be paradoxical with everything tho. lol

2) Speed/uppers/amphetamines physically stress your body out even when you are not doing anything. They increase your blood pressure and heart rate and release stress hormones, so even though you are not doing anything you may still feel physically tired. Usually on meth I get physically tired but am mentally still very awake. I will often lie in bed for hours resting my body while my mind runs wild.
 
About the trouble urinating, MDMA as the OP stated can cause that. Check out the Ecstasy discussion about it. When I roll I stay well hydrated but cannot piss until I come down.
 
I find green tea to be effective. I have the same problem with caffeine, aka. coffee. I find that it makes me yawn/un-productive.

Furthermore, I find light doses of benzodiazepines to be motivational, as in I can think clearer than any Dexamphetamine/Ritalin that I've had previous to my life.

Could be tolerance to the OP, I don't know.
 
yeah I definitely get a nice motivational boost from a low dose benzo, .5mg alprozolam MAX (with no tolerance)...obviously if I wanted to get FUBAR'd id do many more. Anything more than .5mg will just start to take me down a notch or two. and yeah I also feel very clear headed on a low dose benzo, opposed to any upper ive ever done. I think it has to do with your anxiety levels. Ive always had high anxiety and the past few years its caused me to have no appetite and vomit when I wake up in the morning, and while I love uppers, downers make me more clear headed, and can sometimes even help with my nausea and appetite (albeit hardly)
 
If I've had a couple cups of coffee earlier that day, then a cup of coffee can relax me, but that's probably because of caffeine's low efficacy when I've got a tolerance and sipping hot drinks relaxes me. The first cup of the day definitely stimulates me - I get sweatier on 8 oz. of black coffee than I do on 10mg of Adderall! After those urgent morning coffee shits I take, I do feel all new and unburdened for the day.

You're not that weird on the other stims, either. At least for Dexedrine and Vyvanse, if I drank some milk, lied down, and focused on nothing, I could nap with no problem. In that way, it could be easier to sleep if I had a mind to, because I usually stay awake thinking about all kinds of shit. It's a good kind of sleep when you're doing an all-nighter, too, since I could nap for what felt like 45 minutes, it would only be 20, AND I'd wake up very refreshed. When my tolerance was at it's highest (still not that high) and I had a prescription, I'd just chew up a 10mg Dexedrine Spansule to unwind. The confident glow, interest in whatever was going on, and general sense of wellbeing relaxed me, even though at a moments notice I'd be down to walk a couple miles to the grocery.

It all reminds me of that Eric B. & Rakim song "Relax with Pep."
 
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