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DOM - First time - Prophetic Dream

Xorkoth

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This weekend has been the culmination of a wonderful month. A series of really great events in my life coupled with some important realizations have led me to being able to continually maintain a flow of love radiating from myself, which has spread to others around me and which has made me the happiest I've ever been for that period of this past month.

I've come to realize two things lately: one, emotion depends heavily upon the physical flow of energy through your body (through your chakras to be specific); two, the flow of energy throughout your body can be altered with practice through meditation and other mental exercises. Personally I've become aware that love and joy express themselves as a warm, euphoric energy radiating outward and being released from the solar plexus and the heart. Depression and anxiety happen when this energy in the solar plexus and heart changes to become a creeping, pulsing unpleasant energy which loops around and never is released like it is when you're feeling love and euphoria (the lack of release is perhaps the reason it feels bad instead of good). The result of this is a buildup of physical anxiety and mental negativity.

Of course, changing this at will is much easier said than done. I just know that this past month I've been able to consistently keep my energy flowing outward and have had probably the best month of my life. The best ways I know of to change this energy are being affected by the love coming from others (loved pets are excellent for this because they never stop expressing it to you), enjoying and/or playing excellent music, creating and/or experiencing other types of art, and passionate discussion. Also with practice, meditation can allow you to move the energy more towards positivity.

So anyway, the weekend culminated in me getting engaged to my girlfriend of five years on Friday night, which was really an amazing experience. So needless to say, when we got home Saturday night I was simply ecstatic! So it only added to my excitement when I discovered a mysterious vial that had appeared in my mailbox containing 30mg of DOM HCl, one of the compounds I've always had at or near the top of my to-do list, but which I never expected to find! Given that my mental state was so excellent, I decided right there to sample it at a low-ish dose. I waited until later on at night so I could have the majority of my experience alone. I've got no problems taking most psychedelics (other than shattering doses) around my fiance, as I am totally comfortable with her, but I prefer to be alone to really explore a substance.

12:55am (1-29-2007) - Ingested 7mg of DOM HCl dissolved in a solution of 2.217mL of ethanol and 4.783mL of distilled water. No perceptible taste. I held the solution sublingually for about 10 minutes before swallowing. I then went back downstairs to hang out with L (my fiance) for a while.

1:55 - It's been an hour, and the effects have definitely started. It feels at this point like a very gentle amphetamine buzz, and nothing but pleasant. As a matter of fact, it has increased the euphoria emanating from my solar plexus, but has decreased the output of love, as it seems to make me a bit more analytical than I am in my sober state. Still, I feel very emotional. The only other DOX I've tried a full dose of is DOC, which I am very familiar with, and DOC seems to distance me from my emotions to a much greater degree. With DOM, at least so far, I feel exactly like myself, but like a version of myself that is mentally stimulated and beginning to see things sparkle.

2:30 - Very light nausea begins, but I'm still feeling very good. Physical stimulation has increased, but it's a unique stimulation. Generally on amphetamine compounds, including DOC, I get some sweaty palms and feet and other minor signs of physical overstimulation. On amphetamine itself, I feel grossly overstimulated most of the time. This stimulation, however, is extraordinarily clean, giving me lots of energy but without any anxiety or outward signs of stimulation. I feel light and happy and curious about what's to come.

3:06 - I threw up in a sudden rapid increase in nausea, feeling fine now. Very acidic stomach contents. Immediately after throwing up I got in bed to lay down with L for a while and allow the rest of this drug to come on. At this point, the effects have snuck deep into my mind. This drug is extremely clean which makes it somewhat hard to describe on the body, at least at this dose. I felt sober and lucid until all of a sudden I'd realize I was lost in fantasy with no idea what had been going on. I had no ability to focus on anything for very long without losing myself in something barely related or totally off-topic. After throwing up, the effects came on quite strongly, and I felt a sensation that most psychedelics do not cause anymore for me. it's a sensation I associate with real mental psychedelic power. It's like a repeating pattern of suddenly finding myself overwhelmed, which compels me to close my eyes and roll them back a bit, and it's almost like I phased out for a second. The sensation of euphoria from my solar plexus was extremely high, leaving me feeling really good. Waves of pleasure flowed strongly over my body. I laid in bed writhing pleasantly and drifting continually further and further into fantasy.

Each time I phased back into reality from the inexplicable world of fantasy I was entering, I became aware that I was starting to drift off really far, much farther than the apparent strength of the drug should have allowed. I felt my mindstate getting deeper and deeper. Every time I closed my eyes, the darkness would begin to arrange itself, gain color, fractallize, and eventually turn into the sorroundings of an entirely different frame of reference. With eyes open, all I could see was a light sparkle and minor shifting of small patterns.

At some point, I fell into a dream. It was just like falling into fantasy as I had been doing for a while as described above, except that I was aware I had actually just fallen asleep. This means my dream was lucid, something that has only happened one other time to me in my life. As I entered the dream I opened my eyes (in my dream) and my bedroom around me began to turn blue and purple. The walls began to fractallize and expand slowly outward until I was no longer in a room at all, but outside on the streets of a big city. This city looked like New York more than anything, but slightly futuristic. I had a few minutes to marvel at the landscape and the fact that I knew I was dreaming. I was tripping very hard but very easily in the dream, on DOM. The feeling of the drug was exactly the same only its intensity level was heightened hugely. The world around me was twisting apart into fractals and bright colors. Impossible events of chance were happening all around me. An air of importance hung in the air. I had a sense that what I experiencing was being told to me by a presence which felt to me like
some sort of warm and patronly figure telling a bedtime story to his grandchild. Again I must stress the incredible vividness and lucidity of this dream. I experienced each moment while realizing I was in a dream. I could see, hear, feel, and taste what was happening around me, and feel the trip very strongly.

I began to notice that everyone else walking around the streets going about their day had started to notice as well. I felt as if my trip was creeping into each of them. I became aware of their alarm and some fear, and mainly a strong nervousness at the apparent falling apart of reality, which had so far not progressed far. Suddenly I became a man who was walking by.

Abruptly I was no longer aware that I was a guy named Xorkoth dreaming a strangely vivid dream. I was a guy whose name I can no longer remember, and I was a businessman. My mind was preoccupied with the desire to hurry up and be on time, and make that money. I was completely consumed by it and had been for years. It was the most important part of my life. It was my life.

Then I looked up when I began to feel a strange glowing in my solar plexus and an inexplicable stimulation. I noticed the world around me rippling and bending, exploding into detailed fractals. I began to feel nervous. I had tried LSD once when I was younger; I didn't like it because I felt out of control. Was I having a flashback? Quickly now, the deconstruction of the world around me progressed. I began to get more nervous - I had absolutely NO idea what was happening! I realized that everyone around me was experiencing the same thing.

Suddenly, my frame of view appeared as a window on a computer would, like a maximized Internet Explorer window without the frame and controls and so forth (which is what makes it look like a window, but somehow a computer window is what I am reminded of). Everything stopped as if the computer had frozen and a window popped up that said "critical error - the joke is up!" Then my frame of view cracked and split, revealing an impossibly detailed mass of moving fractals behind it. The world began to disappear completely. As it was doing so, I simultaneously became extremely frightened. I went through a very traumatic process where I alternated between denial and realization about what was happening. I began to slowly accept that the world was over. Awareness from beyond my ego began to slowly leak in as everything dissolved. I realized that I had been fooled this whole time, that my actual state of being was not as some silly preoccupied businessman. I hadn't felt this way since I was a child. But the intensity was so frightening and I was still halfway in my ego. The terror grew and grew until I was rocking back and forth, totally consumed by terror. This was my death, this was it, it's all over... As I faded out completely I began to hear frantic meows, and I felt a thought, at first belonging to a host of ambiguous figures from behind the scenes and then from my own mind, of amusement at some cosmic joke, which we had reached the culmination of, the punch line so to speak...

4:53 - The meows continued, stronger and stronger, and I suddenly realized again that I was dreaming and that I had begun this somewhere else entirely. I began to feel a fuzziness pushing on my chest and face. In the endless field of fractals, I saw a large cat's shadow form. Then I slowly became aware of my bedroom. The walls materialized from the fractals and grew back together in proportion. I became aware that my kitty Magnolia was frantically meowing at me and pawing increasingly hard at my chest while nuzzling her head very hard into my cheek. As I woke up she was staring straight into my eyes and looked very concerned. I gathered my bearings as the fractals still playing on my newly coalesced walls faded into the substance of the walls and the room regained normality. As I emerged I felt a deep sense of awe and a nagging feeling of importance which transformed the energy of terror and the realization of mortality back into a euphoric glowing force. My cat calmed down and I got up to go sit at my computer and begin typing notes about my dream before I forgot it. My cat came in right after me and spent the rest of the night sitting on my lap being very affectionate.

Surpringly, the effects of the psychedelic amphetamine seemed already much down from the peak, at just a little over T+4:00. In fact, the effects were never that strong until I laid down with my eyes closed. I still felt the euphoric stimulation and occasionally the intense eye-closing sensation described at the beginning of this report, but other than that, I felt pretty sober, definitely down. I would have preferred to have still been peaking, but I still enjoyed the rest of my night greatly. The DOM remained in my brain, helping me to enjoy some really great music and bringing me a lot of pleasure, but otherwise remaining pretty transparent.

6:45 - I decided to go to bed and fell asleep pretty quickly and comfortably, which is a testament to how incredibly gentle this substance was to me. I woke up at 8:00am with L (after only about an hour of sleep) and we proceeded to have a very nice day, one which was slightly colored by the long plateau of DOM. It was a very pleasant day.

I'm left wondering what the hell that dream was. It was like no other dream I've ever had. It was deep, powerful, totally lucid, and gave me a sense of light forboding. It felt important. Two days later, it's still lingering in my mind. I will hold off on speculation, and I look forward to having a full experience with DOM. Next time I will be taking 15mg, and then I should be able to see just how far this one can go.

DOM seems to be a fantastic substance, transparent but very powerful at the same time. It feels very archetypal, like DOC, only more subtle and with a greater capacity for sneaking you into very far-out situations. It was very pleasurable, but during that dream the terror I felt was very real and isn't something I will soon forgot. As a person who had no experience with psychedelics (the businessman), I witnessed the breakdown of reality and the ascension out of the ego, and as we all know, that can be a terrifying experience, especially when it happens stone cold sober in the middle of the day (which was the case for the businessman I briefly was).

I'm very intrigued to continue exploration with this one...

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Nice report. I have had very similar "dream states" brought on by 4-aco-mipt. The description was very well put.
 
Another superior report...you should get paid to write these..I really agree with all of the content in the first three paragraphs...stay safe man
 
Thanks. Someday I am going to publish them all, once I get to a point where I can make the progression of my spiritual journey and the psychedelics that accompanied it into a complete story and tie them together so they're not a series of disjointed accounts of drug-induced states.
 
DOM! You lucky son of a gun. The experience sounds just like what one would get when they put something powerful into something beautiful, and let the power blow the beauty into heavenesque places.

Thank you for sharing what you bring back.
 
…an eloquent description of a beautiful experience with a chemical that intrigues me greatly. Thanks! If you don’t mind me being so rude--and because you yourself have expressed confusion about your ‘dream’--I’ll have a go at analysis. Not at its meaning mind you, that is of course for you to decide.

What you describe sounds to me to be not a lucid dream, but a lucid, psychedelically initiated hypnogogic vision. This may seem nitpicky, but due to slight differences--and in the interest of providing lexical scaffolding for inspecting the phenomenological architecture (as you rightly do in distinguishing psychedelic ‘fantasy’ and ‘dream’)--I do propose it. I suggest this because your description seems to imply a smooth transition in the vision rather than the usual lapse in time that precedes R.E.M. sleep. Also, you should not have been able to read “critical error--the joke is up!” in a dream because that part of your brain is not fully functional in this respect during R.E.M. sleep (though you may have seen something, such as vague characters, and had the direct understanding that that is what they conveyed in a dream, I don’t know). Certainly it sounds lucid. This makes the interpretation of its meaning even more difficult because anything that comes through in a lucid vision is actively fed back into the vision’s narrative by your conscious mind. Rather that is than being a more direct, one way impartation from your subconscious mind, as is the 'psychological' interpretation of classical visions.

Your description reminds me of a lengthy vision of my own I had on mushrooms. I closed my eyes for a few seconds and listened to music in the middle of a party. My POV was suddenly gliding over a black, silent landscape, following three dark-haired women--in red, floral patterned silk dresses--running over the surface of an endless expanse of perfectly still, black water. Only the splash of their steps was audible. The floral patterns ran down the lengthy trains of their dresses, which were swimming behind them like snakes across the water, and spiraled out into the wake they left behind on the surface. I descended down through the wake and the patterns projected on its surface. The images extended into the depths with me, pulled now into three dimensions, and swirled around in an exquisitely chaotic torrent of images that eventually slowed and reformed into a waving curtain pattern. This waving pattern gradually became still. When it finally came to rest it draped over my own body as well as over the shape of the room and the people in it--then I opened my eyes, and remembered where I was.

The transition back into reality I’ve just recounted seems analogous to your experience of a field of fractals coalescing into the walls of your home and the face of your cat. (Also reminds me a little of Gellar's description of the transitions into Existenz in that film)

I was also happy to hear that the experience was so short. I don’t know if that is because of your own physiological idiosyncrasies or if perhaps because DOM hydrochloride is not the form of most street DOM, whose length is usually far longer (both of these explanations seem pretty paltry to me though).
 
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nice report man

How long was it after you took the DOM that you went to bed and slept? (not the crazy dream, "real" sleep later on)

Curious because it sounds like this one acted unusually short on you. And you say the experience was mild except for the crazy dream?

Strange there seems to be so much variation in how this affects people in doses between 5mg-10mg. Someday I hope to find out how it affects me :)
 
Nicely written. Congrats on the engagement. It's interesting that your cat came and nuzzled you when you were having a nervous moment in the trip. :)
 
Are you serious? 7mg and sleep at 6hr????????????? I thought 7mg was a high dose! If others report this, then it may be sooner than I think until I try the DOM. I figured it would be ages (like the DOC, 2C-P, etc I never got to). Wow, that seems so not-typical.

Oh, congrats on the engagement!!!! We should speak vial IM my friend.
 
I agree that it seemed non-typical. The entire experience was pretty bizarre. The substance was actually extremely comfortable and didn't make me at all jittery, so it was easy to relax myself. Also, I should mention that it wasn't very effective sleep. I'm not sure I even fully slept, and I only laid down for slightly over an hour. Sometimes when I lay down at the end of the night after a psychedelic experience, I close my eyes and slowly drift into some sort of psychedelic fantasy that I later can't really remember, but I never actually attained full sleep. I think that's what happened this time. It also has happened a number of times on DOC. Also, it wasn't over at 6 hours by any means, it's just that I chose to lay down and attempt an hour of sleep so I wasn't totally without sleep for the next day. I felt it just somewhat under peak strength all morning and then it very slowly dropped off throughout the day. As you may remember me mentioning, the strength of the experience other than during the lucid dream/vision/whatever was not particularly strong.

Although, in reading the Erowid reports, many people reported that 7mg would be a fairly low dose. Not really low, but not high. There's even a report about 15mg that the person said was anticlimactic.

Finally, I will freely admit that The last time I used a psychedelic before this was less than a week earlier, and it was 2C-T-21, a phenethylamine. So I'm quite sure tolerance had something to do with the brevity and the weaker than expected strength. Silly me...

yucatanboy2 said:
It's interesting that your cat came and nuzzled you when you were having a nervous moment in the trip.

Yeah, it is. In retrospect I think it's because I was freaking out in a serious way, as at the time I was realizing my mortality. Animals are very sensitive to emotions, and my cat is very protective of us. So I think she was feeling my fear and trying to save me.

psood0nym said:
What you describe sounds to me to be not a lucid dream, but a lucid, psychedelically initiated hypnogogic vision. This may seem nitpicky, but due to slight differences--and in the interest of providing lexical scaffolding for inspecting the phenomenological architecture (as you rightly do in distinguishing psychedelic ‘fantasy’ and ‘dream’)--I do propose it. I suggest this because your description seems to imply a smooth transition in the vision rather than the usual lapse in time that precedes R.E.M. sleep. Also, you should not have been able to read “critical error--the joke is up!” in a dream because that part of your brain is not fully functional in this respect during R.E.M. sleep (though you may have seen something, such as vague characters, and had the direct understanding that that is what they conveyed in a dream, I don’t know). Certainly it sounds lucid. This makes the interpretation of its meaning even more difficult because anything that comes through in a lucid vision is actively fed back into the vision’s narrative by your conscious mind. Rather that is than being a more direct, one way impartation from your subconscious mind, as is the 'psychological' interpretation of classical visions.

Very interesting. The transition into the state was definitely one of the most striking parts, as it was completely smooth. I didn't feel like I had fallen asleep. I actually remember very clearly having my eyes closed for a bit and then opening them and at that moment seeing the walls of the room become extremely psychedelic and fall away. From then on it was as if I was awake and somewhere else. Also, I can't remember if I read the message regarding the joke, or if that was how I interpretted what I did see. Like a dream, the clarity of it has faded since then. I'm glad I wrote down what I did.

Several people said:
Congratuations on the engagement!

Thanks! :)
 
Thanks for the contribution Xorkoth.
We dont get too many DOM reports these days. (hopefully a couple more will be popping up soon).

Do you feel that you lose some of the magic of the psychedelic experience by tripping so often.
I used to trip quite often aswell. And reached a point where i realized i was just using psychedelics because that is what i did (it was like breathing for me) and not to really gain anything from them.
These days i use around once a month and i still feel at times that it is too often (but just like for you, i feel like there are so many things to try and perhaps time might be running out).

Id be really interested in hearing a report on this substance with little to no tolerance.

Ether way, great report and congrats on all the good things in your life.
 
Delsyd said:
Do you feel that you lose some of the magic of the psychedelic experience by tripping so often

Yes, definitely. I go back and forth about that. On the other hand, it is still special to me. I've been using psychedelics fairly often for a little over a year now, with some breaks, so it hasn't been very long really. Before that I had used them for a few years but very rarely, like 5 or 6 times total over 4 years. I know that there is going to be a point that is coming up sometime not too close but not so far from now where I will have to seriously curtail my use.

Eh, rationalizations are spinning around my head but they're just that, rationalizations. I go back and forth with it, like I said. I do know that they haven't had a negative impact on my life and that they've helped me to achieve a really balanced state of being and a whole lot more awareness of the intangible forces around us. I also know I've spent a lot of money on them! 8o Other than that, the only negative I see is that most of my experiences don't have the impact they used to. But I do seem to still have very impactful experiences from time to time, not really any less often than I used to except a certain period of time a year or so ago that had the most impact on me.
 
The sheer nature of the psychedelic experience is amazing, and will always be inspiring…at least I believe. But I can say first hand that tripping often takes away magic. Xorkoth I am sure is not looking for a lecture on slowing down, but seriously give some thought to trying a month without. It makes all of the difference. Up until 2004, I tripped on a very regular basis (as in a few times a month). In 2005, I had virtually no experiences and in 2006 I had four experiences and the difference is night and day. AS I said in another thread, a 2C-D trip this last December hit me as hard as I’d expect LSD to. There may be other factors but either way the experiences now are far more meaningful than when I was doing it every other week. There is no way that having such experiences does not change the general impact. It is possible that DOM just wasn’t for you, what it has been built up to be for others…just as many find 2C-T-7 and 2C-E nothing special (which I cannot understand.)

But it is just as possible that tripping every week lessened the impact from mind-blowing to what you felt instead.
 
I thought I'd wait till I have time to read this thoroughly since DOM interestes me A LOT and I wanted to give your report the attention it deserved. I am so glad to read a new DOM experience, as this drug is the one on the top of my to-do list (well... actually it is right under PiPT ;)).

I am happy to hear that the world is smiling upon you these days. Cherish every moment of it.

Aside from the lucid dreaming part, your description of DOM is, as I would have expected, very similar to my experience with TMA-2. It is not unlikely, because the only difference between the two is a para-methyl instead of a para-methoxy group :)

I can total relate to the feeling of the world taking on a "fantasy" setting. You have just inspired me to dig up notes from my preliminary TMA2 report and post it for comparison :).

Thank you very much, your report is appreciated.
 
Nice! It's always good to see reports on the TMA series. In fact, I'll have a single report to post about TMA-2 sometime in the not-too-distant future.

And thanks :) Look for another report with a higher dose sometime soon as well. Although not too soon... I want to go into the next one without any sort of tolerance. I think DOM deserves that...
 
Taking a break is always a good idea, as MGS suggested :).

If I understand correctly, you have not tried TMA-2 yet? When you do, I'd love to see your comparisons with DOM. I'll do the same if I manage to get a hold of a sample of DOM (really, the only DOx I am remotely interested in, and only because of its relationship with 2C-D and TMA-2 - my favourite phenethylamines).

Speaking of 2C-D, can you draw comparisons between it and DOM?
 
Nope, haven't tried TMA-2 yet, but I have a strong premonition that I will somehow find a single dose under a rock in my backyard sometime relatively soon. ;)

As for 2C-D, well, I can draw some similarities, but I haven't yet taken 2C-D high enough yet to experience its full effects. However, the lightness and transparency on the body are very simialr with these, as is the character and color of the visuals. I'm not sure I can yet explain that part in more detail though.

As it happens, the next day in early afternoon, around T+12, I was still on the later stages of the plateau, and I took 10mg of 2C-D rectally because I was curious about the combination. It turns out that the 2C-D made the trip come back slightly for a couple of hours, particularly the solar plexus-based euphoria and the eye-closing phenomenon. However, it was evidently too late to bring back any appreciable mental effects, so it turned out to be hedonism... although it was satisfying hedonism! ;)

I will certainly make comparisons between TMA-2 and DOM when I get a chance, also. And between the two and 2C-D if that ever becomes something I try.
 
Awesome. First DOM report in a long time. I can't believe how lucky you are to have found that substance in your possession. I know it will happen for me someday but I'm being very patient, just as I was with LSD about 9 years ago.

Congrats on the engagement! that had to make the overall experience better.. that goes for all your recent trips, not just a single instance.

As for TMA-2, Im definitely putting my report up about it soon. Though I wasnt able to try as high of a dose as I wanted. Now I have to re-acquire the stuff somehow. =D
 
I just read it along with your cannabis and 2c-t-21 reports and can only say they just get better and better :D

Seriously dude i have taken great pleasure and interest in reading all your work over the last 6 or so months, it has really intrigued and educated me.

Thanks Xorkoth!
 
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