Mental Health Does unstable mental health cause hallucinations after stimulant drugs?

[mullvad]

Hi,

after I have been using amphetamine or methamphetamine I have been getting some hallucinations. The first time this happened me and my friend took a pretty large dose of amp and stayed up all night.
(Though I stayed up one night before and also did it that time)
The day after when we went to home to his house to smoke some weed. The amp had were off a while ago but we were still not tired so we thought the weed could help with that, he only got high but I got high&trippy, I don't remember exactly how trippy I got but it was not super much, less than a lsd trip. But I my vision was altered a lot, and colors were increased.
The next day when we went to school the colors was still a bit increased and text was pretty blurry, I asked him and he said that he also thought the text was blurry, when we arrived at the school he was all fine but I started to feel more trippy text was hard to read from the computer screen if I was too far away (normally I would have no problem reading that text) and some objects seemed to move a little to the right and left etc. This lasted for some hours and I got huge pupils (like when rolling). I asked my friend and he didn't feel any of this.
The increased saturation of colors lasted for maybe 2-3 days or so.
I thought it was because I had taken more amp then him and stayed up another night so this time didn't thing about it too much.

Then the next time we use amp we split 1 gram over some lines and stayed up the night , the next morning we smoked some weed, and the colors were increased and lasted for 1-2 days, my pupils was huge this time too.

Then we tried a gram of racemix meth(over the course of the day), then we stayed up all night but I was a bit paranoid that night I thought I header noises (he didn’t hear any of these) and the next day I started to see some trippy effects, he didn't feel any of this.
Then next night we both wanted to sleep so we went to our homes, both had problems sleeping but he didn't get any paranoid effects that night, I had some pretty crazy paranoid. Loads of sound and scary shadow people then later I started hyperventilation so I could not sleep an hour that night. He sleep maybe like 2 or 3.


Also this morning colors was increased and when the night started to come I had been awake for maybe 55 hours and started to get trippy, some awake hallucinations though he didn't get any and he only slept 2 hours, then when it was time for bed I had been up for 60-64 hours and I started to get pretty trippy like I heard noises and saw a lot of shadow people. Then when I went to bed and turned off the lights the shadow people appeared a lot more, though I made sure to myself that they are only shadows they can't do anything so I wasn't as scared as I was the last night at one point when I was trying to sleep I heard my door open and I turned off my mobile screen and I saw a shadow(it was with the friend I took meth the other day) enter my room and sat down next to my bed and say something " I don't remember but it was nothing strange it"
I got a bit scared here though only first then I turned on my phone and used the screen as a torch at the shadow and it dispersed, I also saw like if someone was using a laser and pointing it at my closed eye lid so i could not get any sleep, it felt like several people was walking around in my room and talking (all shadows) I wasn't scared at all but I really needed the sleep so I asked another friend at school for some sleeping pills and they helped me get some sleep that night.

The next day at school I asked the girl I got the sleeping pills from and asked why I got these trippy thing and not my friend, I thought it was really weird because I have been using much more drugs and using them for longer time than my friend. I also googled it before and read some about amphetamine psychosis. This girl told me that if you have a "weak mind" (she didn't use these word, English is not my first langue but she meant that) you could get all these effects.

I thought this sounded pretty true because my mental health is not very stable, I’m depressed and suicidal and I have tried suicide many times and ended up in the ER close to death.

I think there was another day after we took the meth, not sure my memory feel all fucked up now really having a hard time remembering all these thing.




So is it this because of my mental health? Or is it something else? When I googled it I saw brain damage could have done this and after my suicide attempts I think I could have got some damage, they were pretty serious. Not sure though the doctors didn't say anything about brain

Also, do you thing this girl now know that I don't feel so good?
No one except my mom and dad knows I have these problems and I don't want anyone else to know, I wish my parents didn't know but they found out after a suicide attempt. If she tells someone else and the wrong people get this information I would have to end my life, I could not live with that so many people know about it, it hurts that my parents know about it also my self-esteem is EXTREAMLY bad, like if I hear someone laugh I KNOW that they are laughing at me, or something similar like that. Do you thing I should I tell her that she can't tell anyone or should I just let I be and hope she doesn’t tell anyone??


Hope this text is a read able, I can’t make it any better now. It was last night I took the sleeping pills to get any sleep and I could only sleep for 6 hours, text is little blurry and colors increased.

Thanks in advance!

 

[neversickanymore]

Hey mull and welcome to Bluelight

This is a common occurrence for some people. Since you are exspierincing effects like these without great sleep deprivation my take would be that you have a decent possibility of having a mind that is more prone to Bipolar.

Here is a thread you may want to check out.. This thread is in DC so it can contain triggers.. Who are the shadow people?



A good probability of what is happening is that you are being pushed into psycoses from the use of the stimulants.

There are levels attributed to bipolar peoples states.. depressed, normal, hypomanic, and then manic. Manic is the state that includes psycoses. For someone who has this type of brain it is easy to push ourselves, through the use of stimulants, into psycoses. Unfortunately we often love to take stimulants even with these horrible consequences. It also does not seem to be something that gets better or goes away.. in fact the exact opposite appears to be the case.. it seems that over time many people find that the amount of stimulant needed to produce these effects can become smaller and smaller. It is called reverse tolerance or an acquired stimulant hypersensitivity.

The fact that this is happening to you indicates that you are in a dangerous position. Since addiction has nothing to really do with feeling good in the end it can mix with the psycoses with awful consequences. If you were to acquire an addiction to stimulants then you could find yourself being driven to use and repeatedly going into that god awful paranoid state with the audio and visual hallucinations and receiving little or no pleasure at all.

For this reason if I were you I would not use any stimulants for the clear reason that this is the last place you want to find yourself. So if I were you I would not continue to use any strong stimulants including any ecstasy or molly.

Longer-term stimulant use may lead to the development of sensitisation and a more chronic psychosis, but low-dose, long-term antipsychotic treatment may prevent the development of this sensitisation.

The findings of this review indicate that stimulant use can result in a short-lived psychotic reaction, more pronounced in those with pre-existing psychotic symptoms. This reaction is unaffected by antipsychotic medication.

Source Stimulant psychosis: systematic review

Stimulant psychosis

Bipolar II

I have a brain like this and have had simialr reactions to stimulants as you.. I unfortunately formed a very strong addiction to stimulants and found myself in that awful soulless scary place many times. So I can assure you that its not a place you need to check out yourself. So please consider giving up the stims. Hope this helps.

 

[mullvad]

Fuck, this don't sound good at all, don't know much about bipolar II, check out your links but I'll try find some in my speaking language, don't understand all the advance words :/ I have been on a mental hospital for some months like a year or two ago, I don't know if they tested for Bipolar there but they did some tests and found out that I got asperger, also i have done test for ADHD for doing impulsive/stupid thing when i was younger. fuck i looked more into asperger & bipolar and people have been giving wrong diagnoses. I also didn't say much, didn't want the doctors to know anything about me. So maybe they didn't pick up the bipolar signs


I looked up some on bipolar and some thing seem to fit in on me but not all, like i never get angry or anything like that, Im never angry and i don't feel like i have ever been manic, idk not that i remember. Been feeling depressed for maybe 5 years or so, i also saw with bipolar anti depressant medicine didn't work and i tried veneflaxin which should be a strong one and it didn't do shit to me.

Where we live we got free health care, should i try talk to my psychiatrist about this? should i try to get a bipolar test?

I'll try later to add some more info about me so you can make a better judgment of what you think, it's hard to cope with this news :/ need to let it sink in

 

[neversickanymore]

I would.. and please remember that what i posted was just something to explore and in no way should be taken as a real diagnoses. That is best left up to the professionals. The link I posted was for bipolar 2, there are two types of bipolar.. bipolar 1 and Bipolar 2.. I was thinking that two would be a much better possibility. With bipolar two people do not go into mania. It usually manifests itself in mostly depression with occasions of hypomania. So please check out the BIPOLAR 2.

Dont get upset as I think you would realize if you were a bipolar one. Im a bipolar two that is currently living a great life with no medication. and please remember we are just exploring things here and they need to be explored further with a professional so you are assured to get the right diagnoses and treatment.

 

[mullvad]

Ture I should not freak out about it to much , I'm going to meet my psychologist next Wednesday will ask her then If it can be arranged so I can do a bipolar test.

"Of all individuals initially diagnosed with major depressive disorder, between 40% and 50% will later be diagnosed with either BP-I or BP-II."
Found that on wiki and I got diagnosed with major dep... So I i think there might be a big chance that I got bipolar 2

Will sleep on this all look more inte it tomarrow it's getting late here, thanks for the info Btw!

 

[Chatative]

I think some people are more susceptible, or at risk, to psychosis than others.

For example, I started occasionally getting stimulant psychosis without going too far over the top & the reason came apparent when I had a psychotic episode that lasted almost 2 months full blown before it slowly started improving. I didn't go to see a Doctor about it until about 8 months later & I just met the diagnostic criteria for Schizophrenia.

Although Drug-Induced Psychosis shouldn't last as long as some of my symptoms did, I do question if it was a sound diagnosis because the only symptom I really had was hearing a single voice & some very mild paranoia that went away not long after being diagnosed.

Who knows, I've been symptom free for the past 8 months.

There might well be an underlying susceptibility in your case but it doesn't necessarily mean you will go on to develop anything.

 

[mullvad]

hmm yeah
true, tho if i have biploar 2 or something like that does it mean i must stop with stimulant drugs? can't i take it sometime and use anti-psychosis to not getting the problems? or will this just make the problem worse in the long run?
Does it also mean i need to stop with psychedelic, will that also trigger a psychosis?

 

[herbavore]

^I think it is a good idea to stop everything and give yourself a chance to detox and see where you are. Right now letting your brain have everything it needs to operate optimally (good nutrition, good sleep, exercise, no toxins) should be more important than getting high. You don't have to say never at this point, just give yourself the time and space to see what is out of whack and what you need to do for it. Always go to the basics first--many people skip them and wonder why nothing changes. Your body is your mind.

 

[Hecticus]

Weed makes myself more paranoid, anxious and psychotic then an IV meth binge. Cut out the weed when you're coming down or sleep deprived, benzo's or alcohol is the way to go, especially in the situations you mentioned. Mental illness isn't a choice, but trying to kill yourself before giving a sobriety a chance? That is weak minded.