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Does this sound like depression?

Jabberwocky

Jabberwocky

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Hi all,

am 25 and have been a long time sufferer of depression and only got on the medication last year. About a month ago, I took a month break from training and decided to take on the booze again and smoke cigarettes, nothing more nothing less besides the odd junk food. Any how prior to this I had lost a lot of friends but during this month it felt as if the depression had fucked off as I was in contact with people from the past and didn't care too much about things. I even ended up drinking alone so many times in my car by a lake just playing my psp or writing up business articles for my blog. Any how my months break is up and i've hit the training up again today and have started eating healthy. I know the drill but now for whatever known reason I am thinking about depression again. Perhaps because the last time I did train / exercise I was depressed........Anyone got any suggestions.
 
What little you've mentioned can't even really touch on if it's depression or not. If you've been diagnosed before, I truly think you will know if you have it again. Just because you're exercising again, does not mean you have to question whether you have itagain because of the association.
My bet is, the more your worrying about it, the more you feel down- just because of the constant thinking.
You're starting to train and eat healthy- that shows signs of motivation! Which is not a symptom of depression =)

We all have our off days, and even overcoming depression sometimes, we can still feel low and down... but it doesn't always have to mean an ongoing condition.
But because you sort of didn't provide much information on how your feeling, and your circumstances, there could very well be an issue that you may need to address- so like the above post- absolutely Call up your psychologist, or mention it to your doc or therapist....
 
And my experience, posting about depression on any message board on earth, including boards that are devoted to depression, is a bad idea. All replies always downplay it like its extremely mild rather than the utter destruction of life in intense torture and agony, give incorrect replies, make suggestions that do not work, and advocate for limitations on treatment / dictatorship control.

All doctors will do the same as posters as well, then pretend they arent doing it and pretend you are making this all up or mistaken or paranoid.

The dark ignorant population takes two or more bad things and pretends one is good, doing pretend comparisons. Edits Lose-Lose situations into Win-Lose instead of advocating for a real attempt to change anything. This is true on 100% of all subjects including depression.

For example, of you post about depression, another person will pretend that talk therapy is good and no action is bad, or standard medication is good and no action is bad; instead of acknowledgment that both are bad. The mind fuck population takes two bad things and pretends one is good, and do fake comparisons. They are programmed to do this millions of times per day on all issues in the world. Everything is fraud.
 
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noonoo said:
Hi all,

am 25 and have been a long time sufferer of depression and only got on the medication last year. About a month ago, I took a month break from training and decided to take on the booze again and smoke cigarettes, nothing more nothing less besides the odd junk food. Any how prior to this I had lost a lot of friends but during this month it felt as if the depression had fucked off as I was in contact with people from the past and didn't care too much about things. I even ended up drinking alone so many times in my car by a lake just playing my psp or writing up business articles for my blog. Any how my months break is up and i've hit the training up again today and have started eating healthy. I know the drill but now for whatever known reason I am thinking about depression again. Perhaps because the last time I did train / exercise I was depressed........Anyone got any suggestions.
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I'm quite near to your age and can relate to some extent. Booze, cigs, drug excess in general combined with poor eating habits certainly aggravate depression through changes in brain chemistry and the simple fact that you are more likely to lay around alone at home and dwell on your thoughts when living that kind of lifestyle.

When reverting to a healthier lifestyle after a similar short binge of taking shit care of myself (smoking and abusing OC, etc.) I experienced a bump in the road at first. Part of that involved the normal depressive thoughts, e.g. "what's the point in this?", etc., but part of it was physical lag on my part. Just stick with it and you should start feeling a bit better. YES, it definitely sounds like depression IMHO.

If that strategy doesn't pan out, ask your doctor about another prescription / tell them the situation. Good luck I know it isn't easy.
 
You are being medicated for being depressed? What medication? In my experience, I found that all sufferers of depression will not get better on those, they will simply take them their whole life. They actually make you feel worst in the long run, and will not make you feel better. I don't really know how your situation is but there are a lot of things that will help.

If you are working out and depressed, try to work out in a different place. Since you were depressed last time, you associate the place with sadness. I hope that helps. Good luck man, I realllllllly hope you get better. Working out is wonderful, when I did it, it definitely helped with my mood and self confidence.
 
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^seriously? you are advocating recreational drugs to treat depression?

I can't think of a faster route to addiction than self-medicating mental illness.

Then when the addiction gets out of control and the person gets helps, they get smacked in the face with their depression they never really addressed alongside the detox, PAWS, etc.
 
I think its at least safer than drinking and smoking. I used to do both as well, then I stopped when I realized that there were better ways that were less harmful. Thats how I got out of my depression, via adderall/dex+weed, exercise, and a modified lifestyle.

Heres a tl;dr version:
1 Be sad.
2 Take adderall/dex. Sometimes smoke (a low dose would help, a high dose would give me paranoia)
3 Be happy.
4 Do stuff you wouldn't do if you were too depressed (talk to girls, sign up for college, work, exercise).
5 Reap benefits of previous actions.

Certainly it doesn't work for everyone, but that's what got me out of it. I am very strong willed though, I never chased a high or took more than I was prescribed and would not always finish a bowl. I would always use the high to do what I couldn't do if I was depressed.
 
^its good that worked for you, my objection was in how deleterious this would be for most people around here and you don't seem to consider how horrible this could be for a lot of people if they took your advice.

FOR MOST PEOPLE if they start using substances to treat their depression and other mental illness, it will likely get them into dangerous patterns of abuse and addiction.

If your depression was cured by a bowl or some dexedrine, it doesn't sound like you would've met the criteria for clinical depression. You were a little blue or apathetic and smoking a bowl or taking some ADD pills was sufficient to shake things up a bit.

For people will severe, clinical depression then this will not be sufficient to break the pattern and get them out of it. It will lead to chasing these feelings and doing anything to avoid feeling that bad again... and most people probably don't have the will power to break this cycle when it starts to become problematic. Addiction isn't a matter of will power.
 
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I don't want to argue with you (really sorry if I pushed the wrong buttons!), I'm just not sure what to make out of the OP, I don't know how severe his symptoms are. He seems to do what I've done before, and I thought I might have had a similar case.

Dexedrine has been prescribed for depression before, and since I have a low tolerance of weed, I didn't need to take very much. However, I'm not a doctor and I can't tell you how severe my own depression/apathy/blueness was.

I do however know that I wasted a year doing nothing, working in a Chinese restaurant for wayyyy below minimum wage, being yelled at constantly and never having a day off. I don't know what that constitutes as, but 12-14 hour workdays where I made around 2-3 dollars wouldn't make anyone happy.

So to the OP, sorry if I underestimated your symptoms. If you could be more clear, maybe I could help.
 
^Dexedrine was prescribed for depression long before the dangers were known, now that is absolutely not a recognized indication for its use.

There probably are doctors out there who have Rx'd it in recent years for treatment-resistant depression but I imagine that if this was widely known, there is a good chance they'd lose their license for doing that. Same with prescribing any recreational drug for depression, given what we now understand about addiction and mental illness, its more likely to do harm than good.
 
noonoo, I think the point at which you need to seek help is if you are feeling bad most days, and if your symptoms are inhibiting your every-day activities. As you would probably know, depression can manifest itself differently at different stages in our lives, so just because you're feeling differently to the last time you were depressed doesn't mean you are or aren't depressed this time. If that makes sense? You don't necessarily need to put a label on how you're feeling either, if you're not feeling right, if you're not happy, you should get help. Are you seeing a counsellor/therapist at the moment? Perhaps it might be worth getting in touch with them to discuss how you're feeling. Your medication might need to be altered if you think it's no longer having the desired effect.

Also, just to clarify, the use of recreational substances to try and self-medicate depression is a potentially very dangerous suggestion. It may work for some people, and that is great! But for most people suffering with depression, anxiety, and many other psychological issues, recreational substances will most likely make the situation a WHOLE lot worse. To be safe, one should NEVER self-medicate. Always seek professional help.

noonoo, let us know how you're going <3
 
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