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Does the presence of "drip" indicate drug wastage?

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I can't really word it any better, but what I mean to find out is whether the presence of a noticable drip that drugs like meth and coke produce when snorted is indicative of some amount of said drug being wasted (ie.turned into unusable drip that does little aside from making one's throat feel nasty)? Naturally, when taking smaller bumps drip's presence is minimized. Can it be assumed that more of the drug is properly absorbed when you can't taste as much of it?
I'm thinking from a purely theoretical point of view, if there is some absorption-rate/per-unit-of-time capacity that one exceeds, the consequence of that is that the drug "drops" away and starts to drip. I'd like to find out if this may be so...and in the same line of questioning, would it be better - for the purposes of getting the most millage out of small amount of drug - to bump it little by little (as oppose to do one big line)? I do realize that bumping would produce a lot less of a "stonger rush" associated with doing it all at once.
Thanks for helping out in this difficult time of trying to stretch some crystal through the exam-prep time. ;)
-Edward
 
I don't believe that the presence of a "drip" indicates the loss of any of your drug. Assuming that it's the unabsorbed drug, I'd think that once it hits your stomach it's then broken down/absorbed and put into your blood stream anyways. From my use with stuff I've noticed that if I take smaller bumps and leave time between the high often comes a little quicker, however I have noticed no real negative effects from the drip other than a (very slight [though could all be in my mind]) slower peaking high, and even worse "cotton mouth". However, I could be completely wrong.
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I like to let that drip soak under my tongue for a little bit... theoretically it sounds like a good idea. But some people hate the taste of these wonderful chemicals. But maybe I'm a freak. I love the taste of oxy and K... i'll lick the plate clean.
 
I think a good way to look at it is this:
Your nasal cavity has a finite amount of surface area. It's very likely that you'll be blowing more than that surface area over the course of an evening (or morning, if thats how you choose to operate). Idealy, you should cover the surface, then repeat when needed. Snorting one, meter long line of coke is wasteful, (and dangerous, I'd suppose). Putting too much of something up your nose is going to cause an undesireable fullness, a pressure, inside your head, in your nasopharynix (spelling? its been years since anatomy). If you immediately snort that pressure into the back of your throat, the way one clears mucous from the back of the nose, and then swallow it, you've just wasted stuff you could have snorted later.
My remedy, since I rarely have the wherewithall to buy snortable drugs, and therefore, havent established my "maximum line capacity", is to just keep dragging baby lines away from the mother pile, until I feel satified.
 
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I disagree, at least in the case of amphetamines, the drip DOES result in some increase in effects via gastrointestinal absorption.
There really isn't anyway to "not get a drip" -- it's pretty much inevitable when snorting a substance. The most you can do to limit the drip is to snort small amounts frequently as opposed to snorting large amounts which are simply too much for the nasal membranes to absorb all at once. Also, remember to rinse out the nostrils with a few drops of saline between snortings, so as to clean out the nasal passages and maximize absorption of subsequent insufflation.
Another option is to take the drug sublingually -- which provides approximately the same amount of absorption as snorting, but 'wastes' far less (as there is more surface area of mucous membranes under the tongue than up the nose). Doing a drug this way DOES provide a rush similar to, but not quite as instantaneous as, snorting it.
 
^^^Yup. This is why people who've snorted too much meth start putting it on their gums. I find sublingual absorption also works well, though not as well as plugging, with MD class substances.
 
Originally posted by fairnymph:
Also, remember to rinse out the nostrils with a few drops of saline between snortings, so as to clean out the nasal passages and maximize absorption of subsequent insufflation.

How long would you wait after snorting to clean it out (in the case of amphetamines)?
 
you probabily already know when the high kicks in and the drip is almost finished ? ..sometime then perhaps... i usually snort a little water before rinsing to help the powder absorb better..and tilt ur head a bit back..
u guys think its very important to snort warm water ( opens those little vessels ) ?
 
Also, avoid sniffing too much after the snorting the substance. The more you sniff, the faster it gets to your throat, and the less time it gets to stay in that special area.
In my opinion, sublingual isn't really a good substitute for snorting, but I've only experimented with it a few times.
 
ghb basicly started its life in the bodybuiling comunity and as for a date rape drug i find it hard to believe u cant taste it as its does taste like shit. in uk i dont know what the legal issues are at the mo but its easy to get but i find u end up taking fr sleep and u wake up like 4 to 5hrs later so the guys take half the dose u took to get back of for fill nites sleep. as for parting take very small amounts and do not drive on it, the best stuff kicking about is the crystle
 
Personally, I seem to get a definite slight increase in the effects of a drug once I taste the drip. Though, one could chalk that up to being a learned response I have slowly conditioned my brain to recognize as a sign of pleasure. Who knows...
Now a few basic questions to all the future doctors in the room...
At what point along the path from nostril to stomach, does the area of drug absorption begin and end? Is it strictly contained within the upper portion of the nasal cavity alone, or does it extend further into the body?
Also, is it wrong to assume that even after the drip, as the drug makes it's way down your pharynx, it's still being absorbed to some extent by the lining along it's path? Or does the period of absorption completley end at some point?
Also, is there any percentage of the drug that actually makes it past the epiglottis, allowing it to enter the lungs and thus be absorbed in that fashion?
I always assumed that in any instance where you encountered a drip, but did not have any need to swallow, that it had actually followed the route of inhalation and was absorbed into the lungs, not the stomach, at that point. If this isn't just nonsense idiot talk, it seems like another aid to the speed of absorption via insuffation...
 
I don't do much coke, but stick to my daily share of oxy. I keep a bottle a saline(not medicated) nasal drops in the cabinet. 10 minutes after i rail, i flush out with the spray. I tend to get major pressure headheaches when i dont...
 
Originally posted by Brainrape:

Now a few basic questions to all the future doctors in the room...
At what point along the path from nostril to stomach, does the area of drug absorption begin and end? Is it strictly contained within the upper portion of the nasal cavity alone, or does it extend further into the body?
Also, is it wrong to assume that even after the drip, as the drug makes it's way down your pharynx, it's still being absorbed to some extent by the lining along it's path? Or does the period of absorption completley end at some point?
Also, is there any percentage of the drug that actually makes it past the epiglottis, allowing it to enter the lungs and thus be absorbed in that fashion?
I always assumed that in any instance where you encountered a drip, but did not have any need to swallow, that it had actually followed the route of inhalation and was absorbed into the lungs, not the stomach, at that point. If this isn't just nonsense idiot talk, it seems like another aid to the speed of absorption via insuffation...

Well, there was a time when I wanted to be a doc, so I guess I'm as qualified as the next guy who can't hack it in organic chemistry.
The body has specific places where it absorbs things along the Alimentary canal. An area designated as absorbant is going to have numerous capilaries, covered very thinly by epithelial tissue. To protect the vessles and tissue, and to facilitate absorbtion, water rich mucous is secreted. This occours in the colon, where the body's primary interest is salvaging water and vitamins from stool. More significant, is the first segemt of the small instestine. This is where all those good macromolecules you eat get dumped into the blood stream and your lymph system.
These areas, the small and large intestines, as well as your nasal cavity, are all similar. They all pack way more surface area into a space than normal. Their jobs are to absorb things (in the case of the nasal cavity, it's to filter the air you breathe, as the lungs can't do this, which I will get to). Your esophagus serves no function beyond linking your guts to your head (thanks cephalization). Your stomache, while wrinkely, doesn't do much in the way of absorbtion; It's job is to physicaly break apart food, and begin the digestion of large protines.
The sensation that "the shit is kickin' in" when you taste the drip is a learned sensitivity. You associate the taste with the experience, and your mind is ready to embellish it. Plus, but the time it's dripping to tyhe back of your throat, the feel good atoms have become well mixed with the mucous, which is necessary if they're to be absorbed through the nose.
Now for the lungs. I suppose, following drug logic, it would sound like a good thing to have a drip running into your lungs; After all, thats where smoked drugs go, and they hit you fast. However, the lungs are a liquid free area (excluding the natural moisture your body perpetuates to keep the blood vessels in your lungs from drying out). Think about how it feels to breathe water.
"but atlas, this is just a little bit of liquid"
Well, think about the last time you stopped paying attention to your body, and let saliva run down your trachea. You reacted violently, doing everything you could to hack it back up. Whether you realize it of not, you're swallowing saliva all the time, and it's going down your esophagis, when your trachea is closed. The same thing happens to liquids rolling down your nasopharynx.
As for whether the drip contributes to your getting high, consider the following. Cocaine, opiates, amphetamines, and ketamine are all orally active, but for reasons like cost and the rush (of in K's case, the hole) the nose or the needle are desireable. You need alot more coke if you want to eat it. If you're already snorting so much that the drip is sizeable and persistant, it's still meaningless; The amount you're putting up your nose dwarfs the amount that is making it to your small intestine.
At any rate, it's a good idea to give your nose some rebound time. After you've gotten the desired effects from whatever you've snorted, and the drip has come and is diminishing, break out the nasal drops. Failing that, snort drops of water through a shortened drinking straw. This will wash away the excess faster. You nose will then build up mucous levels, and you can do it again...
and again and again and again. Ad Infinitum
 
I always thought the drip would be absorbed through the throat membranes. Does any of it?
 
^^^Yeah, that's what I was actually told just recently, though it's prolly unlikely now that I read all the posts above. Well, I guess I'll be taking small bumps more often...I need to get that Bullet thing or whatever it's called, The Snuff Dispenser I guess would be the appropriate name. Anyway, thnx everyone, I'm all out anyway, but next time I'll manage to find some I'll deff just take smaller bumps and perhaps try to eat it (if I get enough). :D
 
My undrerssanding is that the drip is part of the getting high process. Let it drip. Hey! that could be a good song title...So let it drip...
I think that's what Towelie told me.
 
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