Does heroin have the same psychological addiction potential as meth and crack

[AvenaSativa]

I never did heroin but I used to love suboxone. I stopped caring about it so much after I first tried meth. Meth tricks your brain into thinking it's the most important thing in the world and it's really good at getting people to lie to themselves as an excuse to keep using it. I gotta say if you don't mind going out through malnourishment and sleep deprivation meth is the funnest way to commit suicide.

 

[g0to]

It does, and it doesnt. It generally takes longer to start truely fiending, if for nothing but the fact that meth tends to hype one up in a certain way where for some individuals the high itself makes them fiend, whether its sex, weed, benzos, h.. anything prior is exponentiated and then eventually replaced with the meth if a person likes it. And even if they really don't.

Suboxones quite the powerful opiate, even tho h has more oomph to it, abusing suboxone in a way sets one up for long term addiction. If youve abused suboxone to the point you were both craving it and enjoying it, then ya, id say, h would captivate you in much the same way as meth can. It all really depends on how you react to it, some people smoke to the point they r nodding hard, and just keep that nod up, so that type of high is way beyond say, sniffing .5mg sub with a sub tolerance to get thru the day. Others like to just smoke thruout the day, constantly keeping up the enjoyment of a certain energeticness. Either way youre just begging to be addicted. I will say this tho, both can be heavily physically addictive, i still experience physical cravings for meth (tingling in body, feeling of transient nausea, overobsession in back of my mind knowing itd instantly alleviate malaise) and heroin (extreme cravings to where i have to stop myself from picking up) but not for suboxone (that i abused heavily as well. The wd's for that one where too long lasting and destructive especially when combined with a long term meth wd) so be careful because even tho it seems you can replace one with the other, thats only when youre on one of them but it builds toxicity in your body until after youre completely off of everything for a while and its not just wd, those drugs can truely fuck the brain(bad decision making, meanness, social isolation) long term until a long break is taken

 

[CFC]

^ good post.

OP some of us are such obsessive control freaks that even meth can't grab a hold for very long. That being said, it's not fun at all for me at that point, so maybe there is room for manoeuvre away from it if you begin to perceive your wonder drug as the real source of all trouble in your life. It reaches a point with me where the thought of using actually gives me uncomfortable nausea and a feeling of revulsion...

 

[kleinerkiffer]

Od -> DC

 

[juansalar]

I agree with G0to's remark "it does and it doesn't..."
On smack I've never found myself on my hands and knees with a torch searching for errant crumbs, like I have with crack.
However, these periods of drug induced obsessive behaviour are usually brief episodes and intense cravings are temporary.
Heroin may not instigate the same mania cocaine inspires, but once physically dependent on the drug heroin's psychological grip is much more profound and runs deeper. Once addicted not being able to acquire heroin is unimaginable. The importance of heroin and it's priority in your life goes beyond any obsession, it becomes the be-all and end-all of your existence. This cannot be simply dismissed as a consequence of physical dependence, the centrality of heroin to your life is also the result of its potent psychological grip (although, admittedly the basis of this grip is its effect on dopamine and changes to opiate receptors caused by long term opiate use, which is a characteristic of physical dependence). Without heroin you feel both physically and emotionally/spiritually painfully empty and lacking in motivation or energy.