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Mental Health Does anyone of you have tried ketamine treatment?

Ketamine is bad idea if one has a psychotic illness such as schizotypal personality disorder.

It's something to try if one has non-psychotic depression and they've failed at least several trials of more conventional antidepressants and they're suicidal.
 
i would if i was close friends and lived with a drug nerd who i trusted and also has no life and would be okay with the responsibility of injecting me every hour and then every two hours/four hours over the week long period.

i would have to source the S-ketamine from overseas in order for it to be any where near financially feasible, and then i would risk it being intercepted by customs. it would still be expensive though.

either that or travel overseas in order to have it done medically supervised which can costs thousands of dollars.

all in all it makes more sense for me to meditate regularly and exercise rather than pursue ketamine therapy for depression/anxiety.
 
I'm a proponent of MAPS, they have done a lot of work with this, and they can handle the potential side effects. It seems that the beneficial effects outweigh the negative, but it needs more research.

I'm wondering if anyone knows what disqualifies you. I assume they are looking for 'clean' refractory people with not too many comorbid disorders and no substance use. I'm sure I wouldn't get in but I'm intrigued and I'd do it without blinking.

They're getting limited permission for MDMA -> PTSD and some other things coming down the road.

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Ho-Chi-Minh said:
Ketamine is bad idea if one has a psychotic illness such as schizotypal personality disorder.
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Schizotypal personality disorder is psychotic illness? Are you familiar with this disorder?

Whatever...I'm not even sure that I have Schizotypal personality disorder. They just put it to me, because they had nothing else to say.

And yes, I've had tried several types of antidepressants, antipsychotics, anticonvulsants/mood stabilizers with no desired effect.

modocmodoc said:
I'm a proponent of MAPS, they have done a lot of work with this, and they can handle the potential side effects. It seems that the beneficial effects outweigh the negative, but it needs more research.

I'm wondering if anyone knows what disqualifies you. I assume they are looking for 'clean' refractory people with not too many comorbid disorders and no substance use. I'm sure I wouldn't get in but I'm intrigued and I'd do it without blinking.

They're getting limited permission for MDMA -> PTSD and some other things coming down the road.

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http://www.maps.org/
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Try nyketamine.com. The have no problems with alcohol consumption and benzos, you must be clear from them for several days befor infusions.
 
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It's legal in NY, AZ, MA, and CA. The exact regulations vary from state to state but in many cases they will accept almost anyone. The biggest barrier is expense. I don't know if you can get any reimbursement from insurance. On average close to $600 per week. Every week.

I've considered it if my current treatment doesn't work. I've certainly tried every category of anti-depressant and anti-anxiety medication. Anyone with experience with legal, doctor supervised ketamine therapy?

The silver lining is that the FDA is fast-tracking a nasal spray that may be available in 2-3 years.
 
Ketamine treatment is not yet approved from FDA for treatment of depression, so no insurance company will pay for the treatments.
 
I have loads of experience with subcut ketamine infusions.
Unfortunately for pain issues though.

I have heard of self injecting therapy for major depression, a course of eight wks irrc.

Legal in your state/country or not, there's ways around barriers once other treatments have failed.

Best,

Rtp
 
I've read reports about ketamine treatments on other forums & they have had mixed responses.

For one person they got a noticeable uplift in mood from their first infusion & subsequently experienced the same improvements if slightly less exaggerated during the following weeks. They are now on IM injections for maintenance & continue to feel better on some days but it now fluctuates.

On the other hand for another person they had an intense experience (K hole) which was physically & mentally draining. They experienced on-going symptoms like nausea & dizziness for 48 hours yet they never had an improvement in their mood.

Certainly it seems to me like it can be quite hit & miss depending on the individual. I would also exercise caution like Ho-Chi-Minh says if you have schizotypal personality disorder as that may exacerbate some of your symptoms. Ketamine is quite a powerful drug.
 
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