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Does anybody "live the best of both worlds"? And if you do, how do you do it?

Dr. Dope

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Does anybody "live the best of both worlds"? And if you do, how do you do it?

Me and 2 friends are in a fantasy that we will live the best of both worlds. When I say the best of both worlds I mean doing the drugs you want to and being successful in your work/school life. One of my friends that we will call "dog" kind of leans more towards drugs side where my other friend who we will call "cat" leans more on the success side. I am somewhat in the middle. I want to know if there are any of you out there who do the drugs you want to do (specifically meth and or heroin but any works) while still having a successful "normal" life? I know I tried my hardest to make schedules on when I can use and when I cant and how much I can but it never seems to work. I'm going to explain why I think there is actually NOBODY who "has a white collar job and does (insert hard drug here) without it affecting them".

So we will start with my friend dog. Dog is the meaner and more criminal person in the group. Dog has been to jail on felony charges but only did 6 months because he was a minor. Dog does online school and has straight A's (or so he says) because he can apparently just look up all the answers to everything. Dog also has (probably got fired though) a job at a restaurant. Before meeting dog me and cat had been good friends, and I didn't introduce cat to dog for a few months after I hung out with dog frequently. Even though dog is a rougher type of person he is still a great friend and person to be around. When I met dog I had already done every drug except the harder ones (meth and heroin). Also when I had met dog I just came out of a gruesome opiate pill addiction. Within the first week or two of knowing dog me and dog were arrested for possession. We weren't doing anything too openly sketchy, we drove to a park in my neighborhood and smoked our last bowl of weed on the playground, then went back to the car. We were there for maybe 15-30 minutes, and just before we left 7 cop cars and an undercover car pulled in. We had run from police before but there was no point this time. They searched the car and found 20 pills, alcohol, and a few pieces. A few days after that I asked dog if he still had connects for Heroin as he had talked about it before and I had been looking for it since I was in my pill addiction. I would also like to add that while we might all be of different financial backgrounds we all live in a middle upper class white suburban area of Atlanta so drugs were definitely around just harder to find. Dog said he definitely still did, and a week or two later he asked me if I wanted to throw down cash on meth. I figured I might as well try it since I hadn't been fantasizing about it like heroin and I would be less likely to become hooked. I tried it and had a great experience which I told cat about. Since then me cat and dog have done meth more than a few times and have had many nights to remember. Since then dog has been on the run twice and has gone on a few week long binges brought on by money. Since then dog has lost his job and relationship with his mother. Since then dog admits to have been addicted to hard drugs. Dog only seemed to become hooked when he left our friendly harmless area and went to the harsh, poverty and crime stricken areas that he has become fond of.

Now for me. I am the in between of dog and cat. I'm by no means the rough type of person although I have a very small criminal record (charges dropped), nor am I the preppy straight A student I kind of want to be. People say I look like a junky or a drug addict but that is mainly because I keep my head buzzed down. The people that say i look like a junky have probably never seen a junky or at least somebody I would consider a junky (sidenote - I hate the label junkie). Anyways I have a reputation at the school I go to. I go to one of the top schools in the state which is great for my successful life. For my drug life though, its a nightmare. Everybody thinks I'm a drug dealer when I have never slang, which is good I guess cause i can rip off newbies but it also causes frequent searches and rude teachers. Also there is only a handful of people that I can actually talk to about every day occurrences in my life. My grades aren't to good, I have some great grades but it will be a miracle from God if I pass all my classes this semester. I had a part time job for a year but I quit right at the end of my pill addiction and right before I met dog. Last year I did better but not great. Last year I only smoked weed the first semester, then second semester I actually started hanging out with friends rather than being the lonely stoner type. Then I started messing around with adderall, then shrooms, then xanax, then before I knew it I was a full blown oxycodone addict who had done every drug besides meth and heroin. Over the summer I ended my pill addiction, and then I met dog and tried meth and recently heroin. I still think there is a lot of hope for me, I still plan on getting a degree and a fulfilling career and that is still very possible. What I really found is that drugs might be affecting my grades and job but what was really affecting it was my attitude and work ethic. For the longest time I refused to do homework, study, and I dreaded being in school or clocked in. But after some therapy and introspective thinking I love being at school, but its still taking me a lot of work to keep up with homework and studying. I've also found out that having good grades is actually really possible and not as hard as I thought it would be, and that a big reason I THINK drugs are the culprit to my grades is because I spend most of my time out with friends. Time will tell if I can continue drug use and remain a good citizen. Most people would wish for world peace or world hunger to end if the had one wish. If I had one wish, it would be to be able to perfectly balance drugs and school/work. I feel very selfish to say that but I imagine anyone living that life must feel like they are the luckiest people in the world. Since I tried meth i've done it plenty of times and recently started experimenting with heroin. Since I tried meth I have done very selfish and mean things to my family especially and friends for dope money. Also very worried about my heroin use as meth was kind of a disappointment to me, whereas heroin was everything I thought it could be. I'm at a very uncertain time of my life but I feel that if I stick to my values and keep my head up I can make something out of my life. I think I get the decent side of each life; I have a somewhat grasp on my drug use and somewhat acceptable grades.

Now time for cat. I feel it is necessary to add that there is a bit of an age difference between me and cat and dog. Both cat and dog are 2-2 and a half years older than me. Even still cat has been my friend for life. I've been hanging out with cat for as long as I can remember. First time I ever smoked a cigarette (in sixth grade) was with cat. First time I smoked weed (seventh grade) was with cat. Me and cat did everything together for most of our lives. Up until highschool both me and cat were somewhat shy and antisocial and never really had friends besides each other. If dog wasn't in the group then I would probably be the rough one. Cat and I were the same in every way except for one: his motivation in school. People blame it on him being asian, which he hates considering his mom's white, but it is because he has had discipline from a very young age. He always had A's and was in the most advanced classes you can get into. Ironically he was the one to get me to try cigs and weed. Cat also had a summer job as a lifeguard and had a lot of money saved up, unlike what I did with my money from my job which was blow it all. Anyways up until I introduced him to dog the hardest drugs he had ever done was E. He had also never snorted ANYTHING. I feel almost responsible for his hard drug experimentation, he mentioned to me when I was telling him about my first meth experience that he kind of wanted to try it. I then told dog that who offered cat to buy some with us. Cat decided to do it and we smoked a gram the first time he tried it. He loved it, but like me he said it was kind of a disappointment to his expectations. Since he tried meth he has only done it a few times all with me or dog. The last time I used meth which was actually a week or two ago was with cat where he said he was done with hard drugs, or at least for a few months. Cat has held up to his word, which surprised me and i don't know why it did considering his track record. He's not the type of guy that can do something and drop it like nothing, but rather a guy who can keeps himself from doing it enough to make him love it. The reason he dropped hard drugs was because he noticed his grades dropping.

So that's my story of 3 misfits that are friends. None of us could do dope without having problems with our "real" or professional life. I always read stories of people that have "normal" "real" lives that still indulge in dope and would like to ask all bluelight users if they have the best of both worlds and if they do how did they do it? Because I have honestly never heard a success story from the person themselves. Sorry for the long story I could go on for days but this is something we always talk about and I want to hear from others. From what I see, nobody can handle dope and everybody regrets it.
 
All addicts (in fact all people!) are an a spectrum ranging from totally functional to totally dysfunctional. Drug users tend to be more on the latter end of the spectrum but there is a chicken and the egg issue you have to wonder are they already fucked up before they stick a needle in their arm?
 
I feel like drugs are more enjoyable when you have a life outside them. Remembering this keeps me from going overboard. I don't want to be that person who just lives for getting high, because once you do that, it all starts to go downhill, and the high isn't even as good anymore. So I work, and I take care of myself and have friends and relationships and a sex life and read books and watch movies and listen to a ton of music. Getting high on heroin on top of that feels so good. If i were just sitting in some shitty room doing nothing but doing dope, no matter how good the dope was, I wouldn't be happy.
 
I feel like drugs are more enjoyable when you have a life outside them. Remembering this keeps me from going overboard. I don't want to be that person who just lives for getting high, because once you do that, it all starts to go downhill, and the high isn't even as good anymore. So I work, and I take care of myself and have friends and relationships and a sex life and read books and watch movies and listen to a ton of music. Getting high on heroin on top of that feels so good. If i were just sitting in some shitty room doing nothing but doing dope, no matter how good the dope was, I wouldn't be happy.

Think this pretty much sums it up
 
I always read stories of people that have "normal" "real" lives that still indulge in dope and would like to ask all bluelight users if they have the best of both worlds and if they do how did they do it?

Prioritization. Drugs never come first.

I guess too it depends on what you mean by "dope". I know many "normal", successful people that smoke marijuana. It's the reason why it will be the one drug that gets legalized first... it's probably easier to responsibly smoke weed than drink alcohol. There was a bunch of posts on political blogger Andrew Sullivan's blog tagged "the cannabis closet" which (along with political musing) relayed emails from some "normal", good ol fashioned white collar job holding family type cannabis users that you could pursue.

Hallucinogens and entactogens can also be used by people with white collar jobs, if used *sparingly*. (This is the category I'm in.) The big deal with these chemicals: there will be a large chunk of time taken up with these chemicals. Your body won't recover as fast. It is hard to prioritize this sort of time. So (at least in my experience) you won't do it that often. But I know (a very few) white collar job holding trippers and rollers. (Mostly artististic types who happen to have a good creative or technical job as well...)

I'll also add that, though I've never used it this way personally, using Adderall, modafinil, or other prescription stimulants to cram for something, intensely focus on a task, or push through a deadline does happen in more technical / brainier type fields.

To be honest, the drug to watch out for in the white collar job world is alcohol. You mentioned the social reasons as not helping you prioritize as well, well, alcohol is the drug that literally is everywhere in the white collar job world, and there is more "social pressure" in this world with this drug than anything else. Addiction or heavy usage, not occasional or light usage, is what causes all the problems people associate with drugs. Thus, in the white collar world, this is truly the most dangerous chemical.
 
I have a job, go to college, have my own place at car and do dope. The "key" for me is that i do methadone in the am and ONLY dope in the pm, never during day

Dont anyone tell me that this isnt going to last or ill be eating by words a year from now because ive already been a dope fiend for years and was homeless, no job, dropped out of uni (im at community college now ) and squandered all the little monies i got on dope. But before that i was at uni, had an awesome apt and a new audi, good job and effed all that off for dope.

So i know what both worlds are like and what happens when you get too deep in the dope world, its easier for me to balance since i use methadone in the am. NOBODY (not even my bf) knows i use dope anymore. Been managing this for two years. Not that hard, really, when you have the 'done to help. But i dont even like using dope during the day anymore, i prefer methadones euphoric energy.

Btw im curious how old you are, cant figure out if youre still in high school the way you talk about summer jobs and school or are you referring to college?
 
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I feel like drugs are more enjoyable when you have a life outside them. Remembering this keeps me from going overboard

Nailed it right here. There needs to be more to life than just getting lit.

My work and family help keep me in check. I avoid getting high during the week because my performance drops when I'm tore up or hung over. My job is more than just a paycheck. I love what I do and I want to build great things. Also, I have a family to take care of so I gotta keep my act together. I can't be too fucked up around them and I have to make sure and set a good example for my young one.

I recommend making school your top priority. Quit using if you have too. Few things in life are more important than a solid education.
 
i agree with the others here. it's all about priorities, attitude and the reaons you do drugs for. out of my close friends who started with drugs together back then - having taken all the usual substances at least once (one hasn't do meth and i haven't done heroin, but i've still had my share of opiates; still we mainly did "party" drugs: psychedelics, entactogens, stimulants) - everyone now has a university degree and no one has gotten addicted to anything other than cigarettes (or weed for a short period of time). if you don't neglect your future and your education and do drugs to enhance some experiences instead using them as a sense to temporarily escape from your normal life, then i likely won't see a problem. my "rule #1" is to never use drugs to feel good, instead only use to feel even better when the time is right. and it goes without saying to be extra careful around addictive substances like opiates...

btw, i don't think that it's going to turn out well for "dog" if he stays true to your description of him.
 
Functional addiction is a fascinating topic. For the purpose of keeping my response short, I'll assume we're talking about "hard" drugs, since many people maintain lifelong addictions to caffeine, marijuana etc. with no ill effect.

aside: I don't know what happened to the user dokomo. He used to be a big proponent of chipping.

Whether or not chipping can be defined as addiction is another matter. I think chipping can be considered an addiction; obviously this would be another debate. Either way, it seems that only certain personalities have that quality where priorities remain intact no matter what. It's easy to let priorities get switched up while you're under the influence, or craving for that scheduled fix. Even if it remains functional, an addiction is still there.

It's tough to argue that anybody's life wouldn't be even better without an addiction. Of course, people often will claim "my addiction to ____ feels good enough that it is worth it" or "_____ makes life worth living." In their own perspective--which is the one that will ultimately decide their fate--trying to maintain consistent use in a balance with work, relationships, and other life obligations is the best option.

There is a very large spectrum of substance use and the tipping point varies from person to person. It is usually easier to see the imminent collapse of functionality from the outside. Usually, when a drug user starts to feel the slightest bit out of control, that is where the bad tends to accelerate and take over the good in one's life. It's very hard to notice that exact point of time from within, as it is happening, and then reverse course. So then we get TV shows like "Intervention" and such.
 
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