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Doctors who pretend narcotics don't exist

Cyc

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Let me give you three examples recently of legitimate doctor visits I've had.

1.) Last summer I pulled a muscle in my back playing baseball. Walking was difficult, but I made it to the University clinic. I told him I was taking Aleve but it hurt my stomach and wasn't working. He felt around, and told me to continue taking Aleve. <--- Like he didn't even hear me.

2.) Last month I go in with a painful dry, non-productive cough. I tell the Dr. I'm taking Robatussin but it doesn't agree with me and fails to suppress the cough. The Dr. tells me to get rest and plenty of fluids. The obvious prescription would be for codeine or hydrocodone syrup. Doctor fails yet again.

3.) Finally, this week I find a family Dr. and tell her I'm experiencing tooth pain from an exposed nerve. I tell her I have a dentist appointment next month. She actually says, "Well next month is just around the corner" and ignores my pain.

These 3 examples all tell me that doctors are simply not prescribing pain medication for people who are... in... pain!?

In fact, I've never gotten a percocet prescription, even when I got my wisdom teeth pulled, got stiches in my nose from being in a fight, and stabbed myself (deep) in a kitchen accident and got stitches without any freezing.

I've NEVER been prescribed pain medication stronger than T3's no matter what my complaint is. Do you see this as being part of our culture? I mean, I almost feel guilty describing pain to a doctor because they either play it off, or become uncomfortable at the suggestion. It's not like I'm a junkie. These were valid medical concerns. I feel I should stop telling my physicians when I'm in pain.

I think it's becoming more trendy (for lack of a better term) for doctors to simply pretend narcotics don't exist. I call these doctors "homeopathic-lite" doctors because they refuse to use drugs to treat certain symptoms of their choosing.

Where do you see narcotics 20 years from now? Are we going to treat cancer patients with tylenol and hugs?
 
what the fuck man? thats crazy. i know some doctors here in the states are scared to script narcotics because they're worried about the DEA stirring up some shit.

i've usually never had a problem getting narcotics though. i got two weeks worth of vicodin after i had one wisdom tooth extracted, and hell, i got scripted vicodins for headaches (though i'm goign to try to get that changed to benzos).

maybe there's something in the canadian medical laws or something that makes it difficult, or makes them not want to deal with it? it might be worth looking into, because it could be something like that, instead of the doctors just not wanting to script them (for worries of addiction, etc).
 
A lot of doctors are worried about the potential addiction factor.
I went to the doctor today bitching about my horrible lower spinal pain, what do I get?
Tramadol. Again.
 
yup best shot is doctor shopping. 5 years ago i got prescribed percocets for wisdom teeth after i went in there complaining that the 20 5/500mg vicodins didn't do anything for me. "well what would you like percocet or darvocet?" ummmmm durrrr....
 
mhmm when I used to do pharms I slowly realized well over 50% of the people I was buying pills from had the same doctor.(I live in a really small town) After some research I went to see him, and voila, he continued my xanax script and started Oxy IR 5mgs for "sudden, breakthrough pain". One lady was recieving an insane ammount of valium(10mgs), fentanyl patches(100ug), seroquel(300mg), perc 10s and many others! Tlak about maxed out if this lady wasnt poor so she sold her shit or didn't know her shit and took these meds what would she be?!?! Talk about crazy thinking about her being in public and living all drugged out like that. Also continue to be persistent and make visits specifically for the "pain" you have. my old doctor told me once he wont script unless its a persistent problem and he feels people just spout all their problems out at the doctor to get pills when if they really needed them they would be at his office 24/7. Makes sense... but in about ten visits and all that money he never gave me any opiates! even when I messed a neck vertebrae up(my mom did the same thing and same doctor gave her percs and muscle relaxers)told me tylenol and rest or I could come back for 800mg inbupropfs! Hence my search that found me my new doctor.... :)
 
In the US, yes the DEA is a bitch. Also, a lot of states are starting to log all scheduled prescriptions to deter doctor shopping. Combine that with the constant bombardment from the press(and other media) about addiction, drug abuse, etc. and you could start seeing the situation they're in. I'm not saying it's right, but rather somewhat understandable.


Just out of curiosity, how old are you? From what I've heard, age and appearance can be factors.
 
Cyc said:
1.) Last summer I pulled a muscle in my back playing baseball. Walking was difficult, but I made it to the University clinic. I told him I was taking Aleve but it hurt my stomach and wasn't working. He felt around, and told me to continue taking Aleve. <--- Like he didn't even hear me.
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Actually I believe for an injury like that, an NSAID, rest, heat and ice, and possibly a steroid is really what is needed. In fact, some would say that relieving pain in this instance is actually somewhat dangerous because you could end up damaging the muscle worse if you move it in a certain direction (i.e. the pain tells you to stop.)

Cyc said:
I've never gotten a percocet prescription, even when I got my wisdom teeth pulled
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Okay, now THAT is just cruel... unless you were seriously giving them reason to suspect drug-seeking.
 
I don't think so. I came into the ER once with a panic attack (over a decade ago) due to an amphetamine meltdown, but other than that, nothing.

I'm not sure how the documentation works in Canada. Would that ER visit still be on my medical record? I'm 29. I don't do any drugs except for alcohol and the odd valium. Of course I don't tell my doctors this because I'm afraid of being profiled.

Of course I really enjoy opiates, but unless you want to buy some powder off the street, or pay $.50mg for oxycodone through online pharmacies, good luck finding them.

edit: Don't PM me for sources.
 
Shit like this really pisses me off. people with valid pain need to be able to get pain relief- plain and simple.
 
you obviously aren't asking for the medications you need, if you go into your doctors office informed they will 80% of the time write you a prescription for something, or you just ask for a prescription which is what i do and it works.
 
Well, about six years ago I shattered my acateblum, fractured my pelvis and broke my femur.

Sure I got plenty morphine before and after surgery but when I left hospital the strongest I was getting prescribed was crappy codeine.

That was in western Europe, but there was nothing stronger available to me on prescription and there was a certain amount of pain involved.

Their arguement was that it was not chronic pain, as it would abate as my body recovered. It's not an invalid point.
 
jude101 said:
Well, about six years ago I shattered my acateblum, fractured my pelvis and broke my femur.

Sure I got plenty morphine before and after surgery but when I left hospital the strongest I was getting prescribed was crappy codeine.

That was in western Europe, but there was nothing stronger available to me on prescription and there was a certain amount of pain involved.

Their arguement was that it was not chronic pain, as it would abate as my body recovered. It's not an invalid point.
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Actually, it becomes a circular point when they use the opposite reasoning to avoid prescribing for chronic pain. "We don't want to keep you on this forever. It has a high risk of dependency, it's just for temporary pain." <-- My friend suffers from chronic leg pain from a major surgery and this is the reason he's given.

Then they flip the excuse around for temporary acute pain. It's a no-win.
 
LiLCv2 said:
you obviously aren't asking for the medications you need, if you go into your doctors office informed they will 80% of the time write you a prescription for something, or you just ask for a prescription which is what i do and it works.
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Sure, I'll go in there and draw them the lewis structure for oxycodone and calculate the molar mass while standing on my head if it will help get me a prescription.
 
That's complete bullshit. I have a similar post like this in Basic Drug Discussion. What pisses me off is that Every girl I know can go to the doctor and get 'atleast' 10 mg hydros prescribed to them for some kind of pain. When I go in -- even if I'm experiencing similar pain -- the most I'll get is Vicodin and that is very rare. They usually prescribe me T3's or weak ass 30 mg Tramadol... Or my favorite.... Celebrex..

One time though I was fed up and very petulant before a doctors visit and I asked him for something for the pain stronger than some weak ass non-narcotic. The doctor said he would give me a steroid shot and I just flipped on him. I lectured him about how it's so bullshit that he's profiling me as a junkie just cause I have long hair and I'm twenty years old. I just ripped on him and he eventually gave me 30 Vicodin.. :) lol... I laugh about it now but I was seriously pissed at the time.
 
unsui said:
yup best shot is doctor shopping. 5 years ago i got prescribed percocets for wisdom teeth after i went in there complaining that the 20 5/500mg vicodins didn't do anything for me. "well what would you like percocet or darvocet?" ummmmm durrrr....
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lets all get caught doctor shopping and fuck up our future chances of being treated rightly when were in pain8)

OP im in PM and feel some of your concers, especially feel guilty when asking to be treated. in my experience it has always been relative to my GP, im mostly thankful for the relationship i share with mine because i have a good say in my treatment rather than just being shut down and doing things his way.
 
I never get narcotics. I have now been prescribed hydrocodone/APAP for tooth extractions and root canals, but anything else... it's just 'take ibuprofen'.

The fuck man. They ought to sell laudanum at every corner store if you ask me.
 
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