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Do you smoke cigarettes when you trip

delsymfan

delsymfan

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I did this for the first time on an AMT trip recently. Have to say it was nice. Seemed to stimulate the brain and got the thought processes going again. And it helped perk up the trip for a bit.

I also found the smoke highly entertaining.

Just wondering if other people do this. I know smoking marijuana is common on a lot of trips. I have never done this with a psych yet.

Anybody have a good combo with a cig or simply any opinions?
 
That would be a deal breaker for myself. I never could handle cigarettes. To each their own, eh?
 
I love cigarettes with everything. Just always seems to go great. Especially when your drunk or tripping or rolling.
 
Yes, everytime.. I think the most pleasure I got out of a cig while tripping was when i was on an earth-shattering dose of mushrooms and mescaline, i smoked like chimney while trying to figure out the purpose of a chair..yeah i was pretty fucked up lol
 
I find smoking on psychedelics highly enjoyable. On MDMA I can scarcely stop myself.
 
I'm an occasional tobacco user of various forms. I mostly just smoke when I'm with a friend who is smoking and he/she offers me one. I always like to smoke pot on my LSD trips. Once I took 4 hits at 11pm in my room and didn't have any pot with me. I had a pack of cigs though so I smoked about 8 of them throughout the trip. I was tripping very hard and fell in love with the cigarette while I was smoking it in my back yard. Its was the wee hours of the morning (2 or 3ish) and I was alone, so I spent the entire trip steeped in thought. It was quite amazing, I thought to myself for about 10 hours without a break. I'd take weed over cigs on a trip but I don't dislike tobacco so I would welcome it while tripping. Tobacco always seems to promote thought in me and that synergizes well with LSD.
 
delsymfan said:
I did this for the first time on an AMT trip recently. Have to say it was nice. Seemed to stimulate the brain and got the thought processes going again. And it helped perk up the trip for a bit.

I also found the smoke highly entertaining.

Just wondering if other people do this. I know smoking marijuana is common on a lot of trips. I have never done this with a psych yet.

Anybody have a good combo with a cig or simply any opinions?
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God aMT makes me smoke so much. Try smoking spliffs! You won't want to stop. For some reason the pot doesn't really get you high, just feels great inhaling and keeping it in your lungs.
 
Smoke like a chimney on both tryptamines and PEAs....

Methol for MDMA, usually newports....
Nonmenthol for everything else, 27s or bugler if im in the mood to roll my own.....

ive been known to lay down on the steps of my porch and just smoke cigarettes tripping balls in the middle of the night while staring at the sky....
 
Alsbo vanilla flavoured tobacco or Ashton Smooth Sailing (slightly nutty, with a touch of maple, coconut and dark chocolate) make for a superb pipe.

i've been on and off (hand rolled) cigarettes; and while i enjoy them thouroughly on mdma or methylone, i very much prefer smoking a nice pipe on psychedelics. my cigarettes usually have a strange, stale-ish kind of taste while tripping.
and sometimes i don't feel any need at all for smoking to the point of disliking even the thought of it. kind of reflects my on and off relation with tobacco
 
Stopped smoking...
But when I still did something like mushrooms would really put me off of cigarettes while stimulants or empathogens made me suck them up like a vacuum. It's a well known effect of MDMA-like substances and AMT is somewhat similar as well...
 
While I'm a nicotine fiend in "normal life", I find cigarettes impossible tripping. I just grow such an accelerated distaste for them in that place. Once, during a mushroom trip, I was having a horrible nicotine withdrawal. This withdrawal manifested into a hallucination/sensation of multi-headed dogs grinding the back of my neck in their many-toothed canine maws -- but at the time I still would have rather they eaten me whole than smoked a cigarette. It just didn't feel like an option. Another time during an acid trip I actually threw a cigarette out of my friend's hand because I was so displeased that he was smoking it. This coming from someone who regularly scrounges public ashtrays for butts...

Though I usually don't want a cigarette when I simply smoke cannabis as well. What this signifies to me is that when under the influence of any sense-opener (as I would consider cannabis and the psychs to be), it would be natural to disagree with sense-closers (which I would very much consider nicotine to be). To have your senses opened is to be able to really feel what you're doing to yourself with that cigarette and to be impervious to its tranquilizing glamour. This, of course, completely being contradicted in my "sober" state where I chase sense-closing like beagles chase scents....
 
I think it's because often we don't really want to do it - but normally this resistance is pretty easily suppressed and overridden by our biological nicotine dependancy and hardwired association conditioning. Psychedelics decondition us while at the same time making us more deeply conscious about our true nature with all it's desires and intentions. We can't lie to ourselves anymore like that.
Of course there are people who enjoy smoking on a whole other level and I think it's either those people that also keep smoking while tripping - because they consciously want to - or the psychedelia doesn't have a grip on their consolidated ego with its conditioned responses.
Not sure...

I actually stopped smoking because I clear-consciously realized that cigarettes only filled up a hole for me that wasn't there in the first place! I never truly liked it, plus I suspect because of my CYP P450 (3A4 was it?) enzymes I metabolize nicotine slower which is why I get less strongly addicted. Quitting was never a big issue for me.
This type of bio-feedback or mind over matter is amazing to me! You can break a habit by deeply understanding it and undermining your subconscious reactions by making them conscious. It doesn't work easily with everything, it's not that easy at all in fact. But there are things in my life I just dropped because I suddenly 'got' it.
 
^ and ^^; i do have to agree with that actually, if im honest with myself. my pipe is (was actually, since i haven't tripped in 2 and a half years) a sort of compromise, since i don't inhale the pipe-tobacco (of course you still get small amounts of nicotine inadvertedly). i quit all tobacco around the same time as my last trip and went for a completely drug free period (not even caffeine or theobromine). this hiatus sprang from meditation, which at that point sprouted a desire to keep a truly and completely clear head. during that time, i frequently meditated for hours and hours on end and was completely content just doing that (i once went 26 hours non-stop without any movement at all [edit: in savasana mind you, not lotus. i don't fall asleep lying on my back]; and by god i still remember the muscle ache when i finally stood up).
and then 3 months ago i managed to be seduced by my pipe, with cigarettes following not that far behind. a renewed interest in a psychedelic journey came with it. and thus i find myself browsing bluelight again :). strangely though, i want to be tobacco-free again when i finally do go on a new psychedelic journey.
 
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Solipsis said:
I think it's because often we don't really want to do it - but normally this resistance is pretty easily suppressed and overridden by our biological nicotine dependancy and hardwired association conditioning. Psychedelics decondition us while at the same time making us more deeply conscious about our true nature with all it's desires and intentions. We can't lie to ourselves anymore like that.
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Yes. This would very much be the situation. :)
 
I smoke but it never feels the same, feels so dirty and unsatisfying.

However I notice the cravings a lot more and therefor smoke more
 
Solipsis said:
I think it's because often we don't really want to do it
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yes that is the key. i don't consider tobacco an evil substance. or any drug for that matter. its just they way it is used nowadays. much like coffee actually. it doesn't really mean anything anymore. i think a 'correct' use of tobacco is a use akin to that of the native-americans a long time ago, as something sacred. it should be treated with respect, not as a habit because of the habit. no wonder everybody gets cancer. this applies to any drug actually. no meaning without respect and vice versa.

its easier said then done though, once addiction has set in :|. well worth striving for though.
 
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