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Do you HAVE to like your extended family?

undead

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Growing up, I was under the impression that you loved your family unconditionally, even your extended family. The older I get the more I'm realizing that's a bunch of shit. Should you feel obligated to unconditionally love people who you'd not even be friends with if it weren't for being related by blood or marriage?

Let me paint a picture.

I have a cousin who's about a year or two younger than me. He's been in trouble time and time again. Now I've had my share of problems with the law and otherwise, but I don't go around acting like getting arrested makes me cool. Nor do I, when faced with being caught by my parents for having weed, roll over on my cousins and say it was theirs... especially when it wasn't in the first place. Now maybe he's grown up and matured a bit, but you wouldn't know it by the fact that he got all fucked up and put his car into a tree, causing him to have to get facial reconstructive surgery. Large price to pay considering he's got 3 kids to take care of. That's besides the point, however. He's also got a wife who's dying of cancer. She's been going through chemo for about 2 years now. It's really unfortunate, but my other cousin (and sister of the cousin I was already talking about) makes sure to let me know at the last family gathering that "karma's a bitch" when talking about her sister-in-law. The girl's dying of cancer and because she was rude to my cousin once... my cousin holds a grudge which includes gratification that this girl has cancer and is dying. Now, if you don't like someone because of a past experience... fine, but to actually say "karma's a bitch" in reference to her having cancer? Hmmm... bit much, no?

Aside from that... their mother (my aunt by marriage as she married my mothers brother), has always been such a negative, gossipy, chatty cathy of a woman. She never has anything positive to say, is a know it all, bossy, and just overwhelmingly uncomfortable to be around. She used to come to our house when I was little and boss me around and/or yell at me for doing things that were common practice in our own house, but because they didn't do it that way in their house... I was in the wrong. She also likes to talk down to me on the regular. I forgot to mention... my cousins... are also both the most negative people you'll ever meet.

So am I an asshole? Or is it ok for me to not like members of my extended family let alone love them unconditionally? I feel that they offer me nothing in life and that I offer them nothing back. I prefer to avoid them more often than not anyways, but am I in the wrong?
 
I think that dissociating from one's blood relatives gives some people a measure of sanity.

As for whether it's right or wrong, I suppose you could make an argument around the evolutionary biological concept of kin selection. Other than that, I don't really understand how this is a moral issue.
 
You're far from an asshole. I sometimes have to stop during my day and say "Can i really be related to these people?" Aside from only the occasional phone call whne they need bail money or rent, I really have no contact with them if I can help it. I used to feel bad about it and felt like I was obligated to love these people because they are my family. My husband explained it to me well by saying that Toxic people will hurt and use anyone they can, but it's my job to take care of myself and my immediate family and not let toxic people infect my kids and people who are worth my time and love. I hope that makes sense. Plus I don't want my kids looking at those people and thinking that is normal.

Hugs.. I feel ya.
 
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It's more than ok to not like your extended family. There are a couple of my family members who i really don't like that much, due to their actions, etc over the years... A close friend of mine hasn't spoken to her father since she was 17, and that's her dad. Just because you share a genetic similarity to someone doesn't mean you have to like/love them.

For a lot of people, friends are family more than blood relations.
 
I don't have a relationship with any of my extended family, no one, not one... not an aunt, uncle, grandfather, cousin... niente!

I know of them, and at one time I may have had some interaction with them, but not anymore. I'm just waiting for my grandfather to die so that maybe, just maybe, I can make it to his house on time to steal all of his pain medicine. Yeah... how's that for being an asshole? ;)
 
^ Lol... you and I would get along wonderfully. :D

And thanks for the responses, guys. I'll have to admit, my cousin (the one who I originally had brought up... rolled over about the weed, wrecked his car, etc.) he's mellowed out enough to the point that he was actually very tolerable tonight. If he's like that all the time, he may actually not be that bad. Granted we literally have NOTHING in common, but he's at least seeming to be much more responsible than he ever was. Now, I may not be one to talk as I do my fair share of irresponsible things, but then again... I don't have 3 kids to raise.

My other cousin... still pretty damn negative.

My aunt... Jesus. At first sight she's just having a go at every flaw I have, bossing me around, and telling me in regards to my new litter of kittens that the orange tiger striped one... that one's already spoken for. You fucking kidding me? Come to MY house, be a biatch to me, boss me around, then tell me that THAT kitten's already spoken for? Fuck you.
 
I was raised the same way and now as an adult I am miserable. I never took care of myself. I was so worried about everyone else and helping them blah blah blah.

I am in therapy right now and ONE of the most important thing I have learned is that you don't HAVE to do anything, you CHOSE to do the things to do. When you Chose to do something the first thing that is most important is you do what is in your best interest and the second thing is you are the person in control.

I chose not to accept my sister in laws bullshit and so the consequences of that was I lost my relastionship with my brother, but at least I don't have to deal with the drama of that cunt. It will always be a trade off. Why is it that we accept everyone else unconditionally but we dont accept ourselves uncontionally?

There is an awesome book out there called radaical acceptance by tara brach. Might be of some interest to you.
 
No. No you don't have to get along with them. People tend to take liberties with family, and sometimes just need to be told to go fuck themselves.

I guess that I'm a bit more fortunate in that while I don't generally get along with much of my extended family, there's not a whole lot of contact. Even though we all live (more or less) in the same city. When I do see them, its for short enough times that I can just smile, nod, bite my tongue, and then leave.
 
I don't have a relationship with any of my extended family, no one, not one... not an aunt, uncle, grandfather, cousin... niente!

I know of them, and at one time I may have had some interaction with them, but not anymore. I'm just waiting for my grandfather to die so that maybe, just maybe, I can make it to his house on time to steal all of his pain medicine. Yeah... how's that for being an asshole? ;)

I guess that I should be more careful what I post online... I got a phone call from my father today just to let me know that my grandfather is in the hospital and it's not likely he'll make it to see tomorrow... ooooooooops! :\
 
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aww :(

i don't like most of my family. my mom is constantly trying to get me to be closer with cousins but we don't share a lot in common. and i find it rather odd that i should like these people because we share some ancestors. i am trying to spend more time with my sister because its important to her and my mom, but again, we have very little in common. there are a few family members i enjoy spending time with because we share similar interests. i have one cousin who is a massive steelers fan and we go to games, even tho she is like 65. she also goes out to trendy clubs with my husband and i which i think is hilarious.
 
Based on the picture you paint, hell no.

Im lucky enough to have a great extended family that I know very well. I'm pretty close with most of my cousins and could hang out with many of them as easily as I could a friend. But if they were moochy, drama ridden, negative people ( I can think of one or two relatives that fit this description) I wouldn't have them as a part of my life at all. You only live once, you should associate and identify with quality people. There is always room for reconciliation with family if they change their ways, but its not worth it to carry on on a bad relationship only because of the fact that you are related.

I don't have a relationship with any of my extended family, no one, not one... not an aunt, uncle, grandfather, cousin... niente!

I know of them, and at one time I may have had some interaction with them, but not anymore. I'm just waiting for my grandfather to die so that maybe, just maybe, I can make it to his house on time to steal all of his pain medicine. Yeah... how's that for being an asshole? ;)

And my opinion of you slides ever further downward.
 
And my opinion of you slides ever further downward.

And I couldn't care less :)

EDIT: And how presumptuous of you, really, having no real clue beyond what little I've provided exactly what kind of a relationship I have with my grandfather. So, my opinion of you stays the same, and that opinion or feeling, rather, is complete apathy for just another user name I don't recognize whose posts have been less than memorable. *yawn* :)
 
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sounds like my extended family I don't really talk to much besides Grandma. Fuck the rest of em.

Aside from that... their mother (my aunt by marriage as she married my mothers brother), has always been such a negative, gossipy, chatty cathy of a woman. She never has anything positive to say, is a know it all, bossy, and just overwhelmingly uncomfortable to be around.
I thought I was the only person who said "Aunt by marriage" lol. She's such a backstabbing cunt starts rumors and talks shit about you if you leave the room. She cheated on my cousin's dad when he was like 12 made him wait in the living room while she fucked some dude. messed up bitch...

fuck those people...
 
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And I couldn't care less :)

EDIT: And how presumptuous of you, really, having no real clue beyond what little I've provided exactly what kind of a relationship I have with my grandfather. So, my opinion of you stays the same, and that opinion or feeling, rather, is complete apathy for just another user name I don't recognize whose posts have been less than memorable. *yawn* :)

Doesn't BL have some sort of ignore function? After 3 years on this site im about to find out.

Edit: Guess I cant ignore mods.... how unfortunate.
 
i agree you dont have to love your extended family , iv told aunts of mines to bugg the f off. i think ppl are cunts regardless if there related to you or not. family members are nice from far away. my family is my mother, siblings and grand parents the rest are not part of my everyday life so i dont care.
 
Undead, I don't think you're in the wrong, nor do I think you're an asshole.

I don't like the closest members of my family, let alone love them unconditionally, let alone like/love my extended family.

After my grandma passes and I've moved out, I do nor foresee having any contact with my mom or brother. I haven't spoken to my father in years. I do not wish to stay in contact with my aunt/uncle on my mom's side and only do so out of obligation currently. When I break contact with other members of my family, it will be no real loss to lose contact with my aunt (dad's sister). I have two cousins (total) who I do not talk with due to 15+ years between us. My grandparents (dad's parents) will be missed if I were to cut contact and I therefore foresee them being the last family members I cut contact with, if I even have to "cut" the contact before they pass.

My list is short. Hooray for having a small family. :-/
 
You don't have to do anything unless your living under someones elses rules or trying to live up to something/one. ;) In my case if my family members are jackasses, I tell them to fuck off. However I still hold the knowledge that their family and hold hopes they'll change their ways and if they do, welllllll........ i'll still be right here. :)%)
 
No, you don't. That said, it's nice when you do get along with at least some of them.

I grew up in a pretty tight nuclear family, and plus my mom was close with both her brothers, and my dad with one of his bothers and his sister. Everybody liked everybody's spouses. Reunions weren't forced on my mom's side, and only somewhat on my dad's. So I grew up with the notion that it was normal to get along well with your extended family just because they were family.

One year of living in the same building as my cousin and her husband disillusioned me pretty quick.
 
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