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Tryptamines DMT VAPE

Misterx1976

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Hey guys I’ve just bought this DMT vape pen
I’m brand new to psychedelics never tried any really
Been micro dosing mushrooms for a couple of weeks but not had the nerve to try a full mushy trip yet as the setting hasn’t been right

So I’ve bought this pen
I’m wondering if anyone can give me any directions of how to use it and how much

I’d appreciate that thank you
 
I just take 4 or 5 inhales on it as an antidepressant. Never been able to trip from vaping DMT perhaps because Ive eaten so much DMT.
Do they need to be deep inhales?
What’s all this breaking through business
Thanks
 
Do they need to be deep inhales?
What’s all this breaking through business
Thanks
The longer you hold it, the better. (Though of course do exhale when you have to)

Breaking through refers to a full DMT experience where you are entirely or largely derealized, essentially "breaking through" to the another place. Intense visuals, time dilation, feelings of not being alone. Think if you took a mega dose of mushrooms, but coming on far more quickly and intensely.

Your own body and tolerances will determine how many inhales it takes. For me, it takes 7 or so deep inhales to trip though I can get less intense visuals, etc on less.
 
Thank you for that
So you don’t necessarily have to break through everytime?
You can just have small inhales for small benefits and work your way up?
Or is that not the way to use it and that is a waste?

Again very grateful for your help
 
Thank you for that
So you don’t necessarily have to break through everytime?
You can just have small inhales for small benefits and work your way up?
Or is that not the way to use it and that is a waste?

Again very grateful for your help
It depends on what you’re looking for, but for me not breaking-through would be a waste.

I have never used a vape-carts before, but dmt for some reason seems to roughly have a one and a half to two minutes window for you to consume it each time you do it, before you get a very-short lasting tolerance.

Usual method is three hits back to back, that you hold in for 30 seconds each, without breaths in between. I find it easier to hyperventilate before so I have enough oxygen to hold the product in my lungs for long enough. Try to drag on the vapour slowly as it can get you coughing and you’ll lose whatever you inhaled that way.

Most people need some time trial and error to get their technique right, keep that in mind.
 
@Misterx1976

If you have almost no experience with psychedelics, please be careful, don't try it when you are alone
have a friend there to watch over you.

I've tried a vape with dtm a few times and I had to suck the shit out of it to get a decent trip, but that one
was custommade. So I would guess it's probably low-dose and safe to conduct your experiments.

Take care and if you don't mind, let me know how it went :)
 
Great tips up above. I recommend not worrying too much about "breaking through." Like a lot of psychedelic terminology (ego death, for instance,) they acquire a certain inertia, agglomerating new bits and bobs like a snowball grabbing sticks and gravel as it rolls down hill. Eventually, no one knows what anyone is talking about as the boundary of shared understanding of the meaning has eroded completely.

I think I'd start with some questions:
What led you to getting it and thinking about taking it? What are you hoping for? That could help us better advise you. Because the gap between taking taking sub-threshold doses of mushrooms and smoking arguably the strongest psychedelic ever developed is, well, enormous. The good news is that it's very physically safe, especially if you are seated or laying down and can't hit your head when you lose touch with your body. Speaking of which, you did acquire DMT, right? Not 5-MeO-DMT, which is a completely different drug?

The good news about DMT is that it's very short acting, so even if it's a confronting and challenging experience that feels like it lasts an eternity, you will be back in your body in just a few minutes. Mushrooms, on the other hand, I find to be one of the most confusing and powerful psychedelics I've ever taken, and they last far longer. They are excellent and insightful ass-kickers, more likely to teach me what I need to hear than almost any other psychedelic, but not likely to pull any punches in doing so. There are many gentler first time psychedelics (such as 2C-B,) but there's not much out there that has taught me more than psilocybin. Making sure that you've set aside time and space to have as positive and frictionless a first experience with them is a good choice, and I'm happy to hear that you're waiting for the right time. Just make sure you store them in a cool, dry, airtight location.
 
@Pfafffed

Very insightful advice, but on the part of physically safe when laying down or sitting, I have to disagree. For one, I start walking around, not seldomly uncontrollably, I have never hurt myself though. For two, a friend of mine had his "breaking-through" and went all limp, sitting down of course. He made a strange noise, but I didn't want to disturb his trip. Luckily I realised in time he had vomited and was choking in his vomit. I put him in a safe position, the puke spilled all over the place. I cleaned that up while he was still out :) Not nice waking up in puke.
 
@Misterx1976

If you have almost no experience with psychedelics, please be careful, don't try it when you are alone
have a friend there to watch over you.

I've tried a vape with dtm a few times and I had to suck the shit out of it to get a decent trip, but that one
was custommade. So I would guess it's probably low-dose and safe to conduct your experiments.

Take care and if you don't mind, let me know how it went :)
Unfortunately I don’t have anyone to be with me so I’ll be alone
 
Great tips up above. I recommend not worrying too much about "breaking through." Like a lot of psychedelic terminology (ego death, for instance,) they acquire a certain inertia, agglomerating new bits and bobs like a snowball grabbing sticks and gravel as it rolls down hill. Eventually, no one knows what anyone is talking about as the boundary of shared understanding of the meaning has eroded completely.

I think I'd start with some questions:
What led you to getting it and thinking about taking it? What are you hoping for? That could help us better advise you. Because the gap between taking taking sub-threshold doses of mushrooms and smoking arguably the strongest psychedelic ever developed is, well, enormous. The good news is that it's very physically safe, especially if you are seated or laying down and can't hit your head when you lose touch with your body. Speaking of which, you did acquire DMT, right? Not 5-MeO-DMT, which is a completely different drug?

The good news about DMT is that it's very short acting, so even if it's a confronting and challenging experience that feels like it lasts an eternity, you will be back in your body in just a few minutes. Mushrooms, on the other hand, I find to be one of the most confusing and powerful psychedelics I've ever taken, and they last far longer. They are excellent and insightful ass-kickers, more likely to teach me what I need to hear than almost any other psychedelic, but not likely to pull any punches in doing so. There are many gentler first time psychedelics (such as 2C-B,) but there's not much out there that has taught me more than psilocybin. Making sure that you've set aside time and space to have as positive and frictionless a first experience with them is a good choice, and I'm happy to hear that you're waiting for the right time. Just make sure you store them in a cool, dry, airtight location.
The reason is Joe Rogan swears by them and I want to find out what the fuss is all about
Also my friend says it’s a fun experience
 
The crazy stuff and beautiful stuff starts 2 mins after exhaling and lasts 10 mins after which you are kinda stoned for a couple of hours
I take a huge inhale and hold as long as possible.
A second huge inhale held as long as possible will do the trick if the first failed.
 
The breaking through is one thing but the astonishing anti-depressant effect that 6 or 7 good deep inhales of DMT can have on you the next day is incredible.
 
Great tips up above. I recommend not worrying too much about "breaking through." Like a lot of psychedelic terminology (ego death, for instance,) they acquire a certain inertia, agglomerating new bits and bobs like a snowball grabbing sticks and gravel as it rolls down hill. Eventually, no one knows what anyone is talking about as the boundary of shared understanding of the meaning has eroded completely.
Thanks Pfafffed, well put. I was wondering why the term breakthrough irritated me and now we can add the word ego death. I think what I find is people acquire DMT, but feel their experience did not match up to the other guys that said he broke through. lol Where is the measurement stick? How do we draw the line?

Ok if you forget you were a human being that smoked DMT but have been reduced to a cube amongst a million other cubes then ok call it a breakthrough. What I learned is sub breakthrough have been the most rewarding to me.

Still trying to understand the vape culture. :) One of these days I will give it a shot. I am stuck in the past but it always works. One time I sandwiched 20 mgs but was thinking about an emesh So after I blasted off with the sandwich it was like the DMT was playing with me. Blasted out of my head on 20mgs it sort of joked emesh. Like I was gone from one hit in hyperspace and it said you got it all, emesh shemesh not nececcessary, It was funny. Someday I will give it a shot, but I certainly do not lack in effects
 
emesh shemesh not nececcessary
I've always found people who think DMT vapes are weak to be funny, or maybe they're just not making their own cartridges like I did. Only a couple carts were ever whipped up back in the day and it was mostly for on-the-go convenience (DMT during 7/4 fireworks is amazing), as most DMT I consumed was in a monstrously intense dab rig since I was shooting for the psychedelic stars, and by god did I hit them with both the vape and the rig. It was trickier to break through with the vape, but the rig felt natural since I had a 1.5-2g/day dab habit at that time.

@Pfafffed classically swung through with the banger advice, he tends to do that. Recs from Joe Rogan and your friend are totally valid reasons to dive into DMT, I'll give you it's like learning how to swim by jumping off a U.S.S Destroyer, but you'll sure learn how to swim doing that. I was less than a year into psychedelics overall until I was eating DMT on the daily via ayahuasca, speaking of which, are you on any prescription medication? Depending on your response to that question, ayahuasca/pharmahuasca may be very worth checking out.

Imo the advice on this thread is great, start low and slow and work your way up. My first time smoking DMT I burnt it, the second and third times too. I was using a dab torch on a nail, came back with a nail that had an elevated core and found the experience to be significantly easier since it was easier to control the heat. Enails were surprisingly ineffective with DMT. My fourth attempt at vaporizing DMT (I never bought it, only ever extracted) was beautiful though, I had my best friend in the room and I was hitting the piece for 3 large inhalations, each held for ~15-20 seconds due to asthma, and I felt time come to a perfect stop. Before this moment I was unaware that such a thing could happen, and somehow, despite time having stopped, things were still happening around me. I couldn't move, as a mortal I was subject to time, but something beyond whatever plane I existed in decided to show me a neat party trick and turned my surroundings into a collection of resonating golden threads by pulling what I saw like a series of strings in a cross-stitch, each one pulling loose from outisde until finally the last thread I was able to see was also turned into this perfectly golden thread, resonating another overtone of the first one, all together they created a timbre/harmonic structure more beautiful than anything I've ever heard or been able to produce since, though I still chase that sound in FL Studio.

Since then, I've used DMT probably 500-1000+ times and it's treated me wonderfully, I've never experienced any sort of "cap" or anything on my DMT experiences like some people claim to. I also did an enormous amount of ayahuasca/pharmahuasca though, which via "Street Lore" seems to have a sensitizing effect if used like Americans used to smoke cigarettes in the 70's, which despite being abnormal, was how I used ayahuasca and pharmahuasca for a while. It's one of the most unique and beautiful psychedelics, and it's a real gift to us as humans imo. If you're ever curious about extraction, check out the website dmt-nexus.me, they're a fantastic resource despite being a little bit old-school in appearance and vibe.

Edit: Also wanted to mention, don't be afraid to try things like LSD, 2C-B, Psilocybin containing fungi, etc. after trying DMT, DMT forms no tolerance and is not really subject to the tolerances of other psychedelics for some reason.
 
Can I ask you how the DMT vape tastes? When I smoked DMT out of a tribal pipe ten years ago it tasted like I was literally smoking a barbie doll. Almost couldn't keep my hits in but then I blasted off lol.
 
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