DMT orally + BDO - Some exp. - Being like a kid again!
Setting: At my house and around the neighborhood at nighttime with a friend, C.
Dose: Both 150mg harmaline/harmala mix (extract), me: 100mg DMT, friend C: 50mg DMT. BDO...around 1.8mL for me and 2.5mL for C (taken in OO capsules, of course, who would ever bother with having to taste gbl/bdo?).
Mindset: ? Hmm well this would be my friends first time taking DMT, he seemed a little anxious but decided he would like to try it (DMT being known as such a "powerful" psychedelic) but we took a lowish dose of BDO "G" before dosing the DMT.
My experience is with a wide variety of psychedelics, pointless to list them all really. With DMT only relatively recently, and mostly orally "pharma"huasca style with either moclobemide or harmaline as the MAO A inhibitor, at various doses up to around 110mg, smoked only a couple times with lowish doses and still have not broken through into dmt hyperspace (almost once!).
My friend C has experience just with mushrooms a couple times, 5-MeO-DIPT couple times, and a few times with 2C-I.
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So my friend stops on by, and actually asked if i would like to take some "G" in some form and hang out for a bit. I brought up the idea of eating some DMT and he asked some more about it, eventually decided he would like to try it with me. I figured a dose of about 50mg orally would be a nice dose to start with, and I went ahead and took a whole 100mg. We each took a capsule of 150mg harmala/harmaline at around 9:10, then a smallish dose of BDO around 9:30, and then ate our DMT capsules around 9:40-45 or so.
I did not keep notes during the 'trip', but I know I started to feel the DMT kicking in a little earlier than my friend. I have noticed, it seems to vary a LOT in when it 'hits' you orally, i've felt a 50mg dose within 10 minutes of eating the capsule, and sometimes its taken a little over an hour. It seems though once it does start, it climbs up rather quickly to a plateau.
I was noticing the DMT come on, vision becoming 'wider', movement very fluid, brightened colors/sharpness of everything, and some giggles and the desire to smile for no reason
. I turned up the music and asked if my friend was feeling it yet and he said not yet just the BDO. I felt the desire to get up and move to the music, DMT makes the body feel fluid and its very easy and feels great to dance or move around, explore.
Its so different than any other psychedelic in that, visually especially, there aren't the typical patterns on things (unless we're talking high doses and that jewel dome pattern thing), but moving around in different rooms, going outside, touching objects, there's this expanded consciousness feeling, and also it feels as though the mind is able to 'work faster' (if you were to want to look for something you set down somewhere, you can ziiiiiip find it fast, if that makes sense..).
Now in a short bit (10-15mins) my friend started to smile and said he was feeling it come on. He also noted the fluid feeling. How else do you explain it? Its just, fluid! Reminds me of MDMA. We then went out for a walk outside.
It feels incredible for me walking, being on a higher dose than him, and a little longer into my trip 'cause it started earlier, its like your head is floating smoothly along, can't stress "fluid" enough! Now this is when we started talking about a lot of things. Our imaginations were going wild, I felt very much like a kid again, we were talking about the craziest things and cracking up..
Somehow we led into a conversation about, how cool it would be to be able to go back in time, and just see how things were here, where we grew up, etc. Then that led into, well, of course we'd have to be able to go back invisible and walk through walls, have "god" powers, fly around, whatever. Would be interesting to watch our old neighborhoods and us as kids. Then the major laughing began. We then thought about how funny it would be to use these god-powers, to get into any car we wanted, and snap! have it start right up for us, and just cruise around.
A car driving around with no one driving it, it would appear to others. Well then! We could have a blast, flooring it down any road we wish, in the wrong lanes, etc. Then the idea of a cop came up. How freaked would the cop be seeing a car going like a maniac on the road, but no one visible driving it? Well, I thought, to freak the cop out even more, lets be smoking a large joint while driving, and have that be visible.
Be going 120mph or faster (depending on who's car we stole), and see a cop, slam the brakes, maybe get out of the car (door open, even though we wouldnt need to, having god-powers hehe) and go up to the cop....either be smoking a joint, or a cigarette, and put it out, on the cops shoe or something that would be great.
It just kept going on and on, we would expect the cop to be freaking out, pulling out his gun, so we would then appear, but not as ourselves, but, like a large big muscular man, with a tiny head, and some funny accent. Cop shoots bullets, they go through me/him (whoever we're talking about here, LOL) of course, and so, we slow down time or just the bullets, and reverse them back, and have them go into our hands, and throw them back at the cop and laugh.
Then, magically in the air in front of us appears, a big, BIG, fat joint. We get into the cops car now, and say with a smile after lighting the joint (blowing marijuana smoke in his face of course), "would you like to go for a ride?", and snap! all the lights are on and sirens are going, and we take off speeding down any and every road. But, we would make it so that we automatically go right through anything in the way, like other cars, watching them slam on their brakes would look hilarious we thought.
It was very much like being a kid again, the imagination, laughter, feeling.. We got back to my house and my friend wanted a booster dose, and so i gave him another 35mg or so, which only did a little of something as it seems its best to take the full dose all at once with this stuff. I said a couple times I wished we would have skipped the BDO, as I think it dulled the trip somewhat, although it does not seem to dull other psychedelics usually. It works with some, and not with others i guess (talking about most ghb analogs here).
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Both of our trips did not seem to last that long, a good couple hours and then a somewhat quick drop off. I've had 110mg last 4-5 hours before (and a lot more intense). DMT seems to vary a lot with the same dose, depending on the time of the day possibly? I've had 55-60mg feel like this level.
N,N-Dimethyltryptamine certainly is a very unique psychedelic! Its the only one I can think of right now that does not cause visual patterning that, well, is pretty much 'typical' whether its a tryptamine or a PEA. Well actually, 5-MeO-DMT comes to mind... The trip before this one with 110mg everything looked more 'cartoony' than anything. Geometry becomes more simple. Less about fractals and more with geometry like squares, circles, triangles, etc.
Now in a way i'm almost glad its not quite as easy to get ahold of DMT for the average person, and not orally active on its own - I think it would make a GREAT "club drug", I can't wait to take this and go out to a bar/club with lots of women and dance! Its almost like being a slightly younger, horny teenager. I get this body fluidness and desire to dance sometimes with 5-MeO-DMT but yes, i suppose there are more side effects, but with DMT really, nothing major or nothing bad at all i notice really..
I'd prefer to take moclobemide as the mao inhibitor because I notice harmaline seems to attenuate high frequencies in sound, and DMT really makes music sound wonderful. Eat a tab of moclobemide an hour before getting to the bar, and before going in, eat a capsule of DMT. Would be nice if its a place where it would be easy to "sneak" a booster dose inside to take a few hours later.
I almost feel suprised that there's no talk about using this in a social/party setting.. maybe because of the limited availability of DMT. Most people just don't want to bother finding out how to go about obtaining some. Also most of what I read, its either ayahuasca/analogs taken in special settings, or smoking large doses of DMT and getting blasted. Of course I would not want to smoke DMT in a party setting.
Well there's not much else to add about this trip, other than it was a great time, and this was more of a "fun" trip than a learning experience like most of my so-far DMT trips (not breakthroughs). I'll find some other notes from other tries and just add them to the end here, actually I will just reply to the thread once with them combined, just for the information! Happy trippin' -
Setting: At my house and around the neighborhood at nighttime with a friend, C.
Dose: Both 150mg harmaline/harmala mix (extract), me: 100mg DMT, friend C: 50mg DMT. BDO...around 1.8mL for me and 2.5mL for C (taken in OO capsules, of course, who would ever bother with having to taste gbl/bdo?).
Mindset: ? Hmm well this would be my friends first time taking DMT, he seemed a little anxious but decided he would like to try it (DMT being known as such a "powerful" psychedelic) but we took a lowish dose of BDO "G" before dosing the DMT.
My experience is with a wide variety of psychedelics, pointless to list them all really. With DMT only relatively recently, and mostly orally "pharma"huasca style with either moclobemide or harmaline as the MAO A inhibitor, at various doses up to around 110mg, smoked only a couple times with lowish doses and still have not broken through into dmt hyperspace (almost once!).
My friend C has experience just with mushrooms a couple times, 5-MeO-DIPT couple times, and a few times with 2C-I.
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So my friend stops on by, and actually asked if i would like to take some "G" in some form and hang out for a bit. I brought up the idea of eating some DMT and he asked some more about it, eventually decided he would like to try it with me. I figured a dose of about 50mg orally would be a nice dose to start with, and I went ahead and took a whole 100mg. We each took a capsule of 150mg harmala/harmaline at around 9:10, then a smallish dose of BDO around 9:30, and then ate our DMT capsules around 9:40-45 or so.
I did not keep notes during the 'trip', but I know I started to feel the DMT kicking in a little earlier than my friend. I have noticed, it seems to vary a LOT in when it 'hits' you orally, i've felt a 50mg dose within 10 minutes of eating the capsule, and sometimes its taken a little over an hour. It seems though once it does start, it climbs up rather quickly to a plateau.
I was noticing the DMT come on, vision becoming 'wider', movement very fluid, brightened colors/sharpness of everything, and some giggles and the desire to smile for no reason
. I turned up the music and asked if my friend was feeling it yet and he said not yet just the BDO. I felt the desire to get up and move to the music, DMT makes the body feel fluid and its very easy and feels great to dance or move around, explore. Its so different than any other psychedelic in that, visually especially, there aren't the typical patterns on things (unless we're talking high doses and that jewel dome pattern thing), but moving around in different rooms, going outside, touching objects, there's this expanded consciousness feeling, and also it feels as though the mind is able to 'work faster' (if you were to want to look for something you set down somewhere, you can ziiiiiip find it fast, if that makes sense..).
Now in a short bit (10-15mins) my friend started to smile and said he was feeling it come on. He also noted the fluid feeling. How else do you explain it? Its just, fluid! Reminds me of MDMA. We then went out for a walk outside.
It feels incredible for me walking, being on a higher dose than him, and a little longer into my trip 'cause it started earlier, its like your head is floating smoothly along, can't stress "fluid" enough! Now this is when we started talking about a lot of things. Our imaginations were going wild, I felt very much like a kid again, we were talking about the craziest things and cracking up..
Somehow we led into a conversation about, how cool it would be to be able to go back in time, and just see how things were here, where we grew up, etc. Then that led into, well, of course we'd have to be able to go back invisible and walk through walls, have "god" powers, fly around, whatever. Would be interesting to watch our old neighborhoods and us as kids. Then the major laughing began. We then thought about how funny it would be to use these god-powers, to get into any car we wanted, and snap! have it start right up for us, and just cruise around.
A car driving around with no one driving it, it would appear to others. Well then! We could have a blast, flooring it down any road we wish, in the wrong lanes, etc. Then the idea of a cop came up. How freaked would the cop be seeing a car going like a maniac on the road, but no one visible driving it? Well, I thought, to freak the cop out even more, lets be smoking a large joint while driving, and have that be visible.
Be going 120mph or faster (depending on who's car we stole), and see a cop, slam the brakes, maybe get out of the car (door open, even though we wouldnt need to, having god-powers hehe) and go up to the cop....either be smoking a joint, or a cigarette, and put it out, on the cops shoe or something that would be great.
It just kept going on and on, we would expect the cop to be freaking out, pulling out his gun, so we would then appear, but not as ourselves, but, like a large big muscular man, with a tiny head, and some funny accent. Cop shoots bullets, they go through me/him (whoever we're talking about here, LOL) of course, and so, we slow down time or just the bullets, and reverse them back, and have them go into our hands, and throw them back at the cop and laugh.
Then, magically in the air in front of us appears, a big, BIG, fat joint. We get into the cops car now, and say with a smile after lighting the joint (blowing marijuana smoke in his face of course), "would you like to go for a ride?", and snap! all the lights are on and sirens are going, and we take off speeding down any and every road. But, we would make it so that we automatically go right through anything in the way, like other cars, watching them slam on their brakes would look hilarious we thought.
It was very much like being a kid again, the imagination, laughter, feeling.. We got back to my house and my friend wanted a booster dose, and so i gave him another 35mg or so, which only did a little of something as it seems its best to take the full dose all at once with this stuff. I said a couple times I wished we would have skipped the BDO, as I think it dulled the trip somewhat, although it does not seem to dull other psychedelics usually. It works with some, and not with others i guess (talking about most ghb analogs here).
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Both of our trips did not seem to last that long, a good couple hours and then a somewhat quick drop off. I've had 110mg last 4-5 hours before (and a lot more intense). DMT seems to vary a lot with the same dose, depending on the time of the day possibly? I've had 55-60mg feel like this level.
N,N-Dimethyltryptamine certainly is a very unique psychedelic! Its the only one I can think of right now that does not cause visual patterning that, well, is pretty much 'typical' whether its a tryptamine or a PEA. Well actually, 5-MeO-DMT comes to mind... The trip before this one with 110mg everything looked more 'cartoony' than anything. Geometry becomes more simple. Less about fractals and more with geometry like squares, circles, triangles, etc.
Now in a way i'm almost glad its not quite as easy to get ahold of DMT for the average person, and not orally active on its own - I think it would make a GREAT "club drug", I can't wait to take this and go out to a bar/club with lots of women and dance! Its almost like being a slightly younger, horny teenager. I get this body fluidness and desire to dance sometimes with 5-MeO-DMT but yes, i suppose there are more side effects, but with DMT really, nothing major or nothing bad at all i notice really..
I'd prefer to take moclobemide as the mao inhibitor because I notice harmaline seems to attenuate high frequencies in sound, and DMT really makes music sound wonderful. Eat a tab of moclobemide an hour before getting to the bar, and before going in, eat a capsule of DMT. Would be nice if its a place where it would be easy to "sneak" a booster dose inside to take a few hours later.
I almost feel suprised that there's no talk about using this in a social/party setting.. maybe because of the limited availability of DMT. Most people just don't want to bother finding out how to go about obtaining some. Also most of what I read, its either ayahuasca/analogs taken in special settings, or smoking large doses of DMT and getting blasted. Of course I would not want to smoke DMT in a party setting.
Well there's not much else to add about this trip, other than it was a great time, and this was more of a "fun" trip than a learning experience like most of my so-far DMT trips (not breakthroughs). I'll find some other notes from other tries and just add them to the end here, actually I will just reply to the thread once with them combined, just for the information! Happy trippin'
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