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Different 2C-E Batches

Theophrastus

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Hey guys, first post, though I've been a reader here for quite a while. I was hoping I could get some opinions on a situation regarding different batches of 2C-E.

My first batch of 2C-E was pure white, slightly fluffy, and odorless. I tripped twice with this material, with 15mg and then 17mg. Both trips were picture-perfect 2C-E experiences: very intense, incredibly visual and colorful, lucid, and somewhat neutral (compared to the logic loops and emotional oscillation of LSD trips). The comeups of both trips were a bit difficult, and were accompanied by slight nausea, physical discomfort, jitters, and a feeling of excess energy. I was left with a moderate headache after coming down (quite possibly from dehydration). Overall, the experiences were amazing and full of creativity, though I wouldn't call them euphoric, empathetic, or easy by any means. Multiple users had this same experience with this batch.

Then came the second batch, which was ever so slightly off-white, a bit fluffier, and odorless. I tripped once with material, with 16mg, the night after taking 300mg of MDMA. This time, the trip had very few visuals, no discomforting comeup, no headache after coming down, and massive amounts of euphoria and empathy. It essentially felt like an unbelievable 10-hour roll with a warm and weird psychedelic overtone. Multiple users had this same experience with this batch, as well.

I'm quite sure that the second batch was still 2C-E, because the underlying feel of the trip, as well as the visuals and colors, were the same as my first two trips. However, I'd still like to explain the different effects. Because the visuals were much less intense with the second batch (which was also off-white), I'd be inclined to say that it was slightly impure compared to the first batch. But in that case, I can't explain why the second batch would feel much better physically, and would have no uncomfortable comeup or comedown. My second thought was that my use of MDMA the night before could have weakened the effect of the 2C-E, since both substances are 5-HT2A receptor agonists. However, users who had not taken any other serotonin agonist have since consumed the same dose, and given the same "best roll ever mixed with acid" report.

Sorry to be so long-winded, but I wanted to lay out all the contributing factors on the table. Does anyone have any ideas?
 
I know that it's a tough question, but at the very least, has anyone had a similar experience on 2C-E?

I'd also like to address the question to my source, who I know is generally very reliable. Has anybody had any luck in the past when tracking down purity information? Otherwise, does pure 2C-E have a consistent reaction when tested with a certain reagent to which I might have access? I just really want to get to the bottom of this, especially if I'm going to be sharing the material with other people. Thanks again.
 
a marquis reagent test might be helpful in determining whether or not its 2c-e, and its also very inexpensive. What ever happened to the idea for a thread with pics of various phen, cathinone & trypt marquis tests?
 
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Hmmm... bordering on (if not already deep within) "What did I take?" thread territory but we'll see how it goes and what the other mods think. I've only had one batch of 2C-E (was quite a big batch though =D) so have no knowledge of different batches but I presume quality/purity (even the actual drug itself in some tragic instances - see 2C-B-fly/BDFLY debacle :|) varies as much as it does with any other RC. Caveat Emptor.

PS: Welcome to PD and BL - have fun in the BL sun :)
 
2 ce imo is rather different everytime yet essentially the same if that makes sense to anyone out there. Sometimes the trips very euphoric in a ridiculous way and other times its more pyschedelic. Same goes with visuals sometimes its impossible to ignore them and at other times there more in the background and less impressive.
 
i was also thinking that trips, even on the same substance, can be different each time you take it.
But the OP mentions that others had similar experiences to him.

Thats what made me think it may be a different substance.
 
Thanks guys, that's helpful. It's especially interesting to see that someone else has experienced euphoria on a 2C-E trip.

After a bit of a break, I'm going to try a higher dose to see if I can experience the level of visuals from the initial two trips. In that case, I'd assume that this batch may just be less pure, rather than a completely different substances (2C-E visuals are pretty unique, after all).

Thanks for the welcome, Shambles!
 
on my strongest 2c-e trip i had a body load, amazing visuals (maybe even second to DMT), and was very euphhoric.
The euphoria was not mdma like though, more like the euphoria you experience from a strong LSD trip or DMT trip (enlightenment, ego-death, thank god i survived that)
 
When tripping alone on 2c-e i dont notice much euphoria,
but when tripping with others, I definately notice an amazing sense of well being and supreme connectedness (i've never done MDMA so I can't compare its effects) with other people.

Its just the fact that we're all operating on such a finite, and distinct wavelength, that we understand everything together I think...
 
Thanks guys, that's helpful. It's especially interesting to see that someone else has experienced euphoria on a 2C-E trip.

After a bit of a break, I'm going to try a higher dose to see if I can experience the level of visuals from the initial two trips. In that case, I'd assume that this batch may just be less pure, rather than a completely different substances (2C-E visuals are pretty unique, after all).

Thanks for the welcome, Shambles!


Be careful. "I'll take more of it" isn't always the best thing to do if you don't know exactly what it is you're ingesting and have doubts/
 
Good call, Qnick, though I wouldn't even be considering the "take more" method if the trip didn't feel so unmistakably like 2C-E, just less visual and more physically comfortable.

Perhaps it was a combination of the reasons given by CaptainAmerica (I wasn't in a social situation until the last trip) and phatass (possible cross-tolerance with MDMA, etc.)

AMD: Any idea what color a marquis reagent will turn the material if it's pure 2C-E?
 
Thanks, Shambles. I should've known to look on Erowid.

I tested both of my batches with Marquis and Mecke reagents, and received identical reactions (though different from those noted on Erowid):

Marquis - Light green/yellow within ten seconds
Mecke - Light green, quickly turning reddish black

So, although this doesn't answer any questions about purity, I can be reasonably sure that both batches are the same substance. Need to get myself some chromatography equipment...
 
I've only had a single batch of 2c-e (I like to get a bunch). Through 25+ experiences, maybe 4 of them could be described as predictable or similar. I nearly always take 2c-e w/ cannabis; this calms my tummy, lights up my visual cortex, and increases introspective thought.

I can do the same dose, smoke the same herb on two different occasions from the same batch and have starkly contrasting experiences. These experiences range from wildly visual and totally euphoric, to extreme body load and brief periods of feeling impending doom. The euphoria is somewhat reminiscent of MDMA, but much more psychedelic.

More often than not, a 22mg dose gives me mild - moderate energy boost, a little upset tummy, followed by a charge of mental energy, great hallucinations, and clear quick thought processes. Inevitably I'll have a strong desire for sex, milk, fruit, OJ, anything that stimulates the senses. Occasionally it will put me in an awkward state, ie: gravity quits, euphoric shaking or eye wobbles, racing thoughts that include anxiety.

Malleable or quite variable is the best description for this compound IMO. While I can't tell you whether or not you got different batches, I can tell you this compound can and will produce quite different experiences in the same user of the same batch.
 
Possibly it was the MDMA? But I highly doubt that.

Also, maybe the batch was not 2C-E, but maybe got mixed up with 2C-C? That sounds like 16mgs would do to me.
 
At least some phens can certainly behave like you describe.

I generally do 40 mgs of 2C-I. At that level you would think that it would be on the less variable side. Some times I feel pretty spun out, other times I mostly just feel like ughh, kinda boring really but still gonna be up late with this one.

Batch/Tolerance/ other compounds are not factors in my experience.

For a while I thought it was a food factor. Gradually I came to believe that was not true either, now I always put down a good square, and it is still variable.

I have not done 2C-E as much, mainly because I *always* get a lot of rough physical effects, but my limited experience seems to feel like if anything it is less variable than 2C-I can be. But again that is based on really limited experience.

It is certainly within the realm of possibility you just had a different experience. I would say do the same again, not more.

Across a group of people though? What does ""best roll ever mixed with acid" mean? People were actually mixing it with acid? People thought it felt like a mix of acid and mdma? How many people actually said "Best roll ever mixed with acid" versus "Best roll eva mixed with acid"? :p :\ etc etc. This is not to me at least a very useful observation. But the again I just don't "get" a lot of this new generation shit, some things never change, old people are always gonna become squares at some point. %)

If no one, or not even many people said "Yeah, the trip factor of this stuff is OK, but man I just don't feel very good" then to me that sounds pretty suspect.
 
I've tripped 2c-e close to 300+ times from about 8 batches... and I agree that there were differences in some. (I honestly think they were two different batches and just sold to me at separate times)

The first few hundred trips were all the same... EXCELLENT.... great body buzz too! Favorite psych ever.... this second batch gives me horrible nausea.... HORRIBLE. plus loads of other body load issues and it doesn't take me very far mentally as past batches.

I think I'm rambling or not making sense at this point.... so I'll stop here... but I hope I helped some.
 
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