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Opioids DHC vs MST ??

benzoman12345

benzoman12345

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Hello again troops ;)

If any of you have read my previous posts basically I have a fucked back due to a sports injury, awaiting MRI scan on Friday, got a shit doctor who at a push gave me 300mgs tramadol per day wich barely touches my pain, so I had to take matters into my own hands, I acquired some DHC 120mg ER pills, absolutely amazing, best thing I've had yet, now I'm still taking a dose of tramadol in the morning as well as a DHC because the other day I started getting the brain shocks SSRI's give u when coming off them cos of the tramadol, anyways my question is this, I may also be able to aqquire some MST Contin ER pills, So if 120mg DHC is perfect for me , what dosage of MST would be equivalent ? Cheers in advance folks %):)
 
Honestly man, if 120mg of dhc makes you feel good then start off really really low when it comes to the MScontins. If you don't know, when you take codeine of any form it gets broken down in your liver and converted to morphine(well at least a good bit of it). So if you do take the MScontins just be very cautious and start out at maybe 20-30 mg and wait a half hour to an hour and work your way up accordingly. You're better off taking too little and working your way up than taking too much and overdosing and never taking another breath again...just be careful and do plenty of research. Search what the equivalent dose of DHC to morphine. There's plenty of calculators online and good could possibly save your life. Be carefull buddy and good luck.
 
I'm a pharmacist, so I think I can help you here. You wanna start on the MST 30mg tabs, take them 12 hours apart (I.e. Twice a day). Keep the dosing the same time every day for best effect. Its more effective to prevent pain than treat pain, so use consistent dosing to keep your blood levels stable and not let the pain through. If 30mg isn't enough, ideally you wanna increase by 10mg, but wait til the next day to increase and take the 30mg & 10mg together morning and night. If you can only get 30s, don't break the tab cause you'll loose the extended release properties, just take two of them (60mg). It may be a bit strong for you though, but it wont kill you. You'll get used to the effects after a couple of days. Just remember to decrease your dose instead of just stopping taking them or you'll get withdrawals. If you can get enough, reduce by 10-20mg every 3-5 days, or if you're unable to do it for that long, drop by 10-20mg every day at least (may get mild WD but just take some loperamide, paracetamol (Acetaminophen) and ibuprofen (Advil) to ease the symptoms.

Make sure if you're gonna take the MST that you take a laxative like Senna as well. Two senna at night should counteract the constipating morphine. Get plenty of fibre too and drink enough fluids throughout the day.

Ideally you wanna supplement the MST with paracetamol and an anti-inflammatory drug. You could use heat rubs as well. Taking these may mean you need less MST to relieve your pain, which means it'll be easier to stop them and less side-effects. Taking the tramadol and MST will be fine, but you may feel a bit stoned. You shouldn't be getting the electric shocks after taking tramadol for a short time. If you haven't been taking them for more than a few months I'd get that looked into by your doc. Could be a neurological effect of the injury. Neuropathic pain is very shock-like in its effects.

All the best anyway. Hope this info helps, and I wish you a safe & speedy recovery. Just be careful with the MST. Its easy to become dependent on those if you're not careful.
 
start out at maybe 20-30 mg and wait a half hour to an hour and work your way up accordingly
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Just wanted to add in that because its an extended release product, you won't get the full effect til at least 3 hours. So don't dose after half an hour because it'll end up being too much for you. Your much better taking 30mg, and if its not enough, 12 hours later when your next dose is due, add 10mg. NEVER re-dose before your 12 hours is up. If you wanna increase, do it with your next dose not before.

Sorry BupeMan14, just wanted to make sure the OP was taking them safely. For pain management you wanna be alot more clinical in your dosing plans than if you just wanna get high. I'm sure he'd have a good time if you know what I mean, if he dosed every half an hour, but the OP didn't give the impression he wanted a recreational effect, and that pain relief was the main goal.
 
Hey, it's no problem at all man! I'm glad that someone as experienced as you could chime in. The last thing I want to do is give someone the wrong information that would lead them into overdose or possibly worse. Thank god for professionals like you who are on forums like these that can correct the wrong information someone incites and possibly save someone from a life threatening situation. Honestly tho, I know a fair deal when it comes to opiates and opiods but I'm glad someone can give their professional incite when it comes to stuff like this. Thank you for correcting me. And to the OP; listen to Lyrics's Reality. That's someone who knows their shit. Good luck and be safe bud.
 
Thanks very much for thr advice guys , bang on what i was looking for , lyricas if only my gp had the common sense u have i wouldnt be running around trying to score opiates for a genuine condition, as far as recreation of opis is concerned ive messed about and done a bit of nodding and yeah it was fun but it stopped working so i rapped it, dnt abuse something u need just like benzos. Im all for ER pills , and i do take paracetamol to take the edge off breakthrough pain, anyways cheers for the advice, got my mri on friday not looking forward to the results, still need to find a way of convincing my gp to give me what i need.
 
Hey bud, no problem and I wish you the best of luck when it comes to your MRI. Just hope for the best man. And I want to apologize for not giving you the cerrect advice. I just figured you were trying to get high(sorry I have a junky mind set haha) and that's where I fucked up. I should have asked what your intentions were with the morphine, again, my bad. Good luck with the MRI and I'm sure everything will work out bub.
 
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