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Misc decent 'smoking mixtures' banned? Nope.

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I went into the headshop earlier & aquired a smoking mixture with ''completely legal in the UK'' stamped on the Spice-like packaging. Its In the same price bracket as Spice was (edit - leftwing) . I was a bit dubious, but my hashman aint available today & I trust the integrity of headshop in question so...

:)Anyway its excellent, just as good as Spice etc. I'm guessing they're using a different synthetic THC than the one recently banned (there are a few different cannabanoid-like RC's that they've not got round to yet..

and no, you can't do that either - leftwing
 
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I live in the USA in Chicago, IL and man these smoking blends - sold as potpourii or incense - just got really popular here especially in the suburb I happen to live with. They sell mostly K2 and Peace Out, some places have Spice if you go to the city. They all contain some type of synthetic cannabinoid, I personally love them and the fact that they are legal.
 
I'm just a bit worried about the potential toxicity of these synthetic Cannabinoids :\
I remember reading about one of the ones that were used in Spice being questionable in that regard.
But it's not going to stop people using them really is it ;)

Surprised they didn't ban the whole lot of analogues to be honest :) Good for those who want to use them though.
 
^^The Peace Out brand I mentioned caused my friends brother to go unconscious and had to go to the ER. He was fine after they gave him some narcan but it was still scary.

Me and my friend think that he just may have been allergic to one of the plants that make up all the plant material in the blends and not the cannabinoids though.
 
Ive read some herbs thatre infused with the cannabinoids are mild opiate agonists, for some reason damiana comes to mind but i wouldnt bet anything because I suck at remembering plant names. That could be what caused it, and they saw he was an unconscious drug-user so opiate OD pops in their heads. I don't know for sure to say, though
 
johanneschimpo said:
Sounds like the problem might have been opiates and not a JWH-xxx substance, doesn't it? :\
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Or, he was just passed out from a JWH overdose, and they had no idea what he actually consumed. In which case, the medical workers assumed it was a junkie whose parents had no idea, so they narc'd him in hopes it was heroin or another opiate he had taken.

It probably didn't instantly work. That's my assumption but who knows.
 
^ There are dozens of JWH substances a number of which are used recreationally in both pure form and sprayed onto inert plant matter and sold as "legal smoking blends". They are synthetic cannabinoids (not THC - actually closer to DMT in structure, I believe) that mimic the effect of cannabis pretty closely, are legal in most of the world, and do not show up on drug tests. Originally developed for medical use but not used for that purpose cos they get you high as fuck. A strong dose of JWH-018, for example, is around 2mg. They are also suspected to be carcinogenic but the jury is still out on that one.

There are also a large number or other synthetic cannabinoids that are not covered by the UK ban.

JWH factoid: they're named after the fella who synthed them - a certain Dr JW Huffman =D
 
Captain.Heroin said:
Or, he was just passed out from a JWH overdose, and they had no idea what he actually consumed. In which case, the medical workers assumed it was a junkie whose parents had no idea, so they narc'd him in hopes it was heroin or another opiate he had taken.

It probably didn't instantly work. That's my assumption but who knows.
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yes this is what i think was the issue. there is no way he was on ANY opiates. he has never even popped a T3 before. he just smokes
 
If somebody had connections with an overseas lab and could buy any JWH in bulk.....Are there any resources for dosage so that one could safely produce their own smoking blend without overdosing?
 
The Big & Dandy Synthetic Cannabinoids Thread - plenty of info on a wide variety of synthetics in there. They're also discussed in CD and there have been various "recipes" for making your own smoking mixtures posted here in OD and also ADD from memory. Got no linkies to hand but search and ye shall find. You basically need to dissolve a known weight of *substance* in alcohol and spray it onto your herb of choice, leave it to dry and smoke. Probably a bit more to it than that but that's the general idea. I'd stick to using them as pure powders myself as it's easier to judge the dose and "overdosing" on JWH (018 in particular) is no fun at all :|

PS: Don't use your favourite pipe to smoke the stuff cos it sets like concrete and will ruin it. My best pipe bought for me by my first girlfriend many years ago is now deaded from smoking the stuff. If it does that to a pipe I suspect it's not too good for the lungs either. They can also be used to make edibles just like cannabis itself can for those that would rather not smoke it. There's a recipe or two in the thread above :)
 
Most of these more recent possibly legal smoking blends in the UK (don't know about other countries seem to use Damiana as the main herb. Which, although quite light in effects when smoked is actually really quite nice, and from what I remember fairly healthy. I actually seem to get minor nice sexual effects from these Damiana based smoking blends... Increased libido and such. But as I said, fairly minor.

I also find the effects of these smoking blends to never give me any paranoia, which I get quite a lot of from weed. I can only smoke weed after taking benzos to stop the paranoia. I smoked far too much weed when I was younger!

Damiana is fantastic brewed as a tea, although the effects don't really last long. Very 'sexual'.
 
Synthetic cannabinoids are notoriously sexy-making. Dunno about damiana but I seriously doubt you'd be able to feel the effect of any of the plant matter once it's been dosed with a cocktail of sillystrong synthetics as is the case in the legal blends, to be honest.
 
I am ordering a few kilos of Blue Lotus flower, A Kilo of Damiana, and maybe a few others for flavoring.


How do you think JWH would work as a tincture?
 
Shambles said:
Synthetic cannabinoids are notoriously sexy-making.
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Natural cannabinoids are too!

agram said:
I also find the effects of these smoking blends to never give me any paranoia, which I get quite a lot of from weed. I can only smoke weed after taking benzos to stop the paranoia. I smoked far too much weed when I was younger!
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As a fair warning, apparently some JWH compounds (specifically -018) is loaded full of paranoia, sketching out, aka "the fear".

This is why I will stick with weed and not synthetic cannabinoids. Oh, and the JWH series (most of it AFAIK) may induce cancer, whereas THC has eradicated terminal cases of brain cancer. Why go synthetic when all natural is even better? =D
 
People who get drug tested seem to like the stuff as an alternative. Also, some people live in dry counties (not me fortunately).

I can smoke weed legally because of my medical conditions.
 
Sentience said:
I am ordering a few kilos of Blue Lotus flower
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I've had that, subtle relaxing effect. Try adding some to a bottle of red wine in a carafe (or large jug will do) and leaving it to steep overnight. Then strain out and discard the blue lotus dregs & drink the wine. Excellent.
 
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