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lookingforhope

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My brother has been abusing for quite some time now, and this all boiled to a point 2 nights ago where he began raving in his sleep and freaking out, which resulted in a mini "intervention" if you could call it that? Hes told us that last time he abused, he took 20x D10s on the sunday and again on the monday. To be quite frank with you all, I have absolutly no idea what D10s are. I assumed these are Valium as he called them these at one stage, and not to sound like the illiterate sister, I didnt want to ask. Valium is enough of what I need to hear. On top of these, he regularly used weed, ecstasy, cocaine etc.

As mentioned above, last time hes abused were sunday and monday. For my own peace of mind, i spoke to two doctors and asked them about withdrawels etc (Just to be prepared...) and both doctors told me to bring him straight to A&E. Obviously he refused this. And to be once again honest, I never expected him to agree to go.

Today is now Friday, he wont tell us the truth on how hes feeling. I know hes not right. But im worried about seazures or something else along those lines.
I have absolute no experience with pills, as i have just smoked weed for 5 years and dont plan on going any further with it.

My brother is crying for help. We've spoken to rehab centres who will only take him if he detoxed.

He wont see a doctor.
As it is, he agreed to a rehab after his psycotic episode but today he's saying "IM FINE IM FINE..." The usual stunts.



Im desperate for help. I dont know how to cope. I dont know how to help. I dont know what to say.
Im trying to carry my parents through this, and save my brothers life, not to mention keep my own family happy.

Im fighting a brick wall, and expecting the worst.
 
Could it maybe help if you talked to him and really tried to listen? Questions like why is he abusing drugs are really important if you want him to get better, although I understand that it can be a really tough subject to talk about and that he might not even be willing to talk, especially if he feels like you are sort of intruding in his life. People are usually much more willing to let others help them if they feel that they are really understood by the helpers. This is the first time I hear the term "D10" to be honest, and while it could be short of 10mg diazepam (valium) we really can't be absolutely sure here, it might be adderall 10mg, but who knows? One more reason to talk to him, even if it makes you seem illiterate to him, it should give the impression that you're listening and trying to actually understand. Did you atleast see him while he was under the effects? Was he tired and drowsy or all wired up and energetic?
 
He's a dribbley mess on them. I know he's been doing this for years, but I didnt know the full extent of how far it had got. I mean 20 valium? in one sitting? Am I the only one that thinks this is absolute maddness? Hes only 9 stone in weight and 21 years of age.
Iv asked him why, and where, and who and every question on the planet. And he tells me everything. I even sat in the car with him as he ordered 50 more. His answer was "It's as easy as that..."

Im scared to death anything is going to happen to him. And I have been crying non stop the past week. He knows my feelings, I know his feelings. But nothing changes. He is generally very open about his life and whats going on, depressing moments etc with me. We've always had that bond. And Iv always sat there and listened, for fear if I voiced my opinion he would walk out the door and I wouldnt see him again. Iv been walking on eggshells for the past 5 years.

He wants help one minute and the next hes roaring and shouting telling us all to "fúck off".
 
I would have to agree, 200mg of valium in a day is pretty crazy in my opinion too, I think it really speaks for his desperation. If you've talked with him about his problems and you know about his issues and why he's using, may I ask you to share? It sounds like he's trying to solve problems in his life with drugs, problems that could be very likely solved by other, much less destructive means, but it's hard to suggest any alternative solutions if the underlying problems are a mystery. I think you're an awesome sister for listening and honestly, maybe you should subtly voice your opinions to him? You say he knows your feelings, but does he really get the complete picture if you never voice your opinion? Isn't it worse loosing him to drugs than having him walk out the door because you told him your opinion?
 
Great advice FnX.

It seems your really worried about your brother. Your a great sister for caring about him so much.

It sounds as if he is trying to make a change, and support him in doing so. Keep in mind sometimes you have to let people make their own choices; no matter how detrimental we think they are. That being said, hopefully he goes to treatment and I suggest you seek counseling yourself. Family's are hurt when an addict does what addicts do. There is a much higher success rate for recovery when the family gets help as well.
 
He arrived at my house last night at 1am with his ex girlfriend, (who doesnt dabble in drugs whatsoever - his drug abuse was the cause of their demise) and told me that hes decided to go to rehab. Nearest appointment we can get in Monday or Tuesday, but Im counting on him to change his mind about 10 times before we get there.
I asked him last night why he uses? whats the reason? and he came out and said because literally everyone he knows does it and hes afraid he'l miss out if he goes clean for a night.

I thought to myself, this couldnt be the real answer? Its so "16 year old pere pressure"? Sureley we had past this stage in life? He began to elaborate telling me that every one of his friends take something. He couldnt name one person who is sober. I sat ther glued to the chair listening to him repeat himself over and over.
I asked him how much of 2012 does he remember and he had to sit and think for a few moment. He looked back at me and shrugged his shoulders. I think just that question alone made him think "shiiiiiit...." He followed that a few minutes later by saying "Before I die, when your life is supposed to flash before you, I dont think mine will because I remember nothing"

Im wondering now, if he completes rehab, and comes out. Are we going to be back to square one? He got his visa to canada last week and had planned to go asap without sorting himself out. Iv told him that he can change the scenery but his head will always follow him and thats why he need the help if he wants to start fresh.

Im pretty convinced he will change his mind before Monday. In fact 100 times before Monday.
 
Does he know about Bluelight? I don't mean to specifically seek how horror stories, but just introduce him to read around. Diaz dependency is so hard to kick once established, I have known people kick opiates more easily. Maybe if he sees how others struggle with it, he will realise that a medically supervised taper in rehab has the best chance of succeeding, and even then it is bloody hard. But whatever he chooses to do, you have to accept that it is HIS choice and NOT blame yourself for the outcome.
 
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