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Hello guys,

I have a question about using Tri-Tren 200. Currently I'm using Test Prop 150mg 1ml EOD, Boldenone 250mg 1,1ml on Tuesday, Thursday and Sunday. With Test Prop I started on 25.2.2015, with Boldenone on 26.2 and I will add Tri-Tren 200 on 22.3.2015. Is it ok if i take .5ml ED ?

So my cycle will look like:

Test Prop 150: 1ml EOD (start date 25.2, end date 25.5 (almost 13weeks) - 45ml of Prop, and my friend will take 45ml, that's why is 45ml and not 40ml or 50ml)
Boldenone 250: 1.1ml (Tuesday, Thursday and Sunday) 825mg/week (start date 26.2, end date 19.5 - 4x 10ml - 12weeks)
Tri-Tren 200: .5ml ED (start date 22.3, end date 30.4 - 2x 10ml - arround 6 weeks)

Is that cycle ok ?

For my PCT I will take clomid. How many days after Test Prop I should start using it? I was thinking about 3 days. So on 28.5 (day 1: 300mg of clomid, following 10 days 100mg of clomid, and last 10 days 50mg of clomid)

Thanks for the answers in advance. Sorry about my english, is not my primary language :(
 
What's in your tri tren? I believe it's ace, enanthate, and hex correct? Your pinning is fine. Pct should be started a little after two weeks from your last shot of tri tren to allow all the tren to leave your body. Someone will correct me if I'm wrong
 
700mg of Tren per week seems excessive IMO, and is very high relative to your Test. What about 0.25ml ED?
 
My Tri-Tren contains:

Tren Enanthate 60mg
Tren Acetate 60mg
Tren Hexahydrobenyzilcarbonate 80mg

My last shot of tri-tren would be on 30.4.2015, last shot of boldenone on 19.5 and last shot of test prop on 25.5.2015, so I would started PCT on 28.5


CFC: I think 0.25 ED, it's a minumum of dosage ... what about 0.4ml ED or 560mg/w


If a I take tri-tren 560mg per week, I think i should take test prop at least 600mg per week? What is relation between tri-tren 200 and test prop ?
 
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Forgot to ask the key questions :
What's your height, weight, bodyfat and goal for this cycle?
Personally if you're a big dude these doses will be fine.
If you're trying to cut I'd keep test at 350 a week or 300 to minimize water retention and run the tren higher. If gaining mass then run your test higher as for me a little wetter run gives me more muscle mass. Keep estrogen in check if needed as for me high estrogen and tren doesn't mix well.
 
someUser said:
CFC: I think 0.25 ED, it's a minumum of dosage ... what about 0.4ml ED or 560mg/w
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There's no such thing as a minimum dosage.

IMO most guys take too much gear for little discernable improvement in their physique, but certain additional risks to their health. I'm a big experienced guy and use a fraction of that Tren (presently 125mg/wk) to still very noticeable effect.

However, each to their own - my voice is certainly not in the majority on this issue.
 
Serotonin101 said:
Forgot to ask the key questions :
What's your height, weight, bodyfat and goal for this cycle?
Personally if you're a big dude these doses will be fine.
If you're trying to cut I'd keep test at 350 a week or 300 to minimize water retention and run the tren higher. If gaining mass then run your test higher as for me a little wetter run gives me more muscle mass. Keep estrogen in check if needed as for me high estrogen and tren doesn't mix well.
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Height: 180cm
Weight: 98kg
Bodyfat: 20%, mostly arround my waist (i was ill 3 months ago for 1 month and my bodyfat increased for arround 3% - not so clean foot)

My goal is to gain mass and in summer to cut fat. My food is clean now.

Most of my life (till university) i was an athlete and my bodyfat was low.

I think you should know that is not my first cycle. It's 3rd.

If you wanna know some more details (for better cycle advice), just ask.
 
someUser said:
Hello guys,

I have a question about using Tri-Tren 200. Currently I'm using Test Prop 150mg 1ml EOD, Boldenone 250mg 1,1ml on Tuesday, Thursday and Sunday. With Test Prop I started on 25.2.2015, with Boldenone on 26.2 and I will add Tri-Tren 200 on 22.3.2015. Is it ok if i take .5ml ED ?

So my cycle will look like:

Test Prop 150: 1ml EOD (start date 25.2, end date 25.5 (almost 13weeks) - 45ml of Prop, and my friend will take 45ml, that's why is 45ml and not 40ml or 50ml)
Boldenone 250: 1.1ml (Tuesday, Thursday and Sunday) 825mg/week (start date 26.2, end date 19.5 - 4x 10ml - 12weeks)
Tri-Tren 200: .5ml ED (start date 22.3, end date 30.4 - 2x 10ml - arround 6 weeks)

Is that cycle ok ?

For my PCT I will take clomid. How many days after Test Prop I should start using it? I was thinking about 3 days. So on 28.5 (day 1: 300mg of clomid, following 10 days 100mg of clomid, and last 10 days 50mg of clomid)

Thanks for the answers in advance. Sorry about my english, is not my primary language :(
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825mg/week of boldenone will take a while to clear your system, you might be better off dropping the boldenone sooner or running a TRT dose of test for several weeks after dropping everything....
Clomid 50mg down to 25mg might be better add nolva 4 weeks end of clomid 20mg - 10mg adex 0.5mg a couple of times last few days of nolva..... OFF..!!
 
20% bodyfat and 525mg/wk test.....will you have an AI in there too, like exemestane or arimidex? I'd be concerned about aromatisation, given that's a big reason not to touch gear without already being within a certain range.

Just a thought.
 
2 grams of AAS in total, and 700mg of Tren, on only your *third* cycle??

Sorry but anyone suggesting this is appropriate is completely wrong...
 
Because of tri-tren i created post here. Some people said .5 ED, some .5 EOD, some 0.3 ED .. that's the main reason why i chose to ask you for helping me.

Tell me what all i have to take:

Currently i use test prop and boldenone. If i want to add tren, what else do i need too? And what about dosages ?
 
Week 1-12 Test: 1ml EOD (525mg/wk)
Week 1-12 Tren: 0.5ml EOD (350mg/wk)

This is a much simpler protocol and the doses more appropriate to your level of need. You don't need the boldenone, save it for a future cycle. However if you are insistent, I would add it in at no more than:

Week 1-11 EQ: 0.5ml EOD (437.5mg/wk)
 
CFC said:
Week 1-12 Test: 1ml EOD (525mg/wk)
Week 1-12 Tren: 0.5ml EOD (350mg/wk)

This is a much simpler protocol and the doses more appropriate to your level of need. You don't need the boldenone, save it for a future cycle. However if you are insistent, I would add it in at no more than:

Week 1-11 EQ: 0.5ml EOD (437.5mg/wk)
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Thanks man. That's it. 1 more question. What is better, 0.5ml EOD or 0.25ml ED ? And I will take only one tri-tren, 10ml and that's arround 6weeks. What about PCT? Is clomid enough or should I take something else/besides?
 
While I'm certainly in favour of sensible dosing, there's no reason to limit the Tren to just 6 weeks; take it for the duration of the cycle for best effect. As for frequency, EOD is perfectly adequate.

Regarding PCT, I suggest you follow GF's protocol:

Genetic Freak said:
Adex last few days of cycle
Week 1 Clomid 50mg
Week 2 Clomid 50mg
Week 3 Clomid 25mg
Week 4 Clomid 25mg + nolva 20mg
Week 5 Nolva 20mg
Week 6 Nolva 10mg
Week 7 Nolva 10mg + Adex 0.5mg last few days
Week 8 Adex 0.5mg
OFF........................
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CFC said:
While I'm certainly in favour of sensible dosing, there's no reason to limit the Tren to just 6 weeks; take it for the duration of the cycle for best effect. As for frequency, EOD is perfectly adequate.

Regarding PCT, I suggest you follow GF's protocol:
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Adex is currently unavailable for me. I've been researching more about PCT. What do you think?:

Day 1: 200mg Clomid + 40mg Nolva
Following 10 days: 50mg Clomid + 20mg Nolva
Following 10 days: 50mg Clomid or 20mg Nolva


Or the same as CFC gave but without Adex?
 
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someUser said:
Adex is currently unavailable for me. I've been researching more about PCT. What do you think?:

Day 1: 200mg Clomid + 40mg Nolva
Following 10 days: 50mg Clomid + 20mg Nolva
Following 10 days: 50mg Clomid or 20mg Nolva


Or the same as CFC gave but without Adex?
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As you approach the start of PCT, as your steroids dissipate you introduce an Aromatase Inhibitor. You do this to reduce the amount of estrogen conversion that takes place.

Your externally administered testosterone will drop to nothing and you will not be producing testosterone as you start PCT. So you want to make sure that you have reduced estrogen as well.

This is just going into PCT. You want to create a situation where both estrogen and testosterone will rise together. So the AI of your choice should be used in the last 2 weeks of the cycle and immediately discontinued at the start of PCT.

The choice of SERM and duration may vary but PCT should always start with Clomid. You do not need a huge dose in the first few days.

Here is what to do:
Start with Clomid for three weeks and reduce the dosage and overlap it with Nolva in week four. Dose Nolva for 3 weeks thereafter.


After 7 weeks in the last day of Nolva introduce an AI and run that by itself for three or four days.

Clomid does more then act as an anti-estrogen in certain tissues. In the pituitary it acts as an estrogen, sensitizing pituitary cells to the actions of gonadotropin-releasing hormone (GnRH). This stimulates release of FSH & LH. Enclomid the active anti-estrogenic component of Clomid is as effective as Clomid in this regard.

Tamoxifen (an anti-estrogen) is completely ineffective.

Clomid mediates the positive effect at the estrogen receptor.

Both Clomid and tamoxifen are almost equally effective at binding to the pituitary estrogen receptor. As noted Tamoxifen has no estrogen mediated effect in terms of an ability to increase GnRH-stimulated release of FSH & LH. What it does is just occupy the receptors...or block them so that E2 or Clomid can not have a positive influence.

That isn't what we want in the first few weeks of PCT. That is why not to use Tamoxifen in those early weeks.
 
Genetic Freak said:
As you approach the start of PCT, as your steroids dissipate you introduce an Aromatase Inhibitor. You do this to reduce the amount of estrogen conversion that takes place.

Your externally administered testosterone will drop to nothing and you will not be producing testosterone as you start PCT. So you want to make sure that you have reduced estrogen as well.

This is just going into PCT. You want to create a situation where both estrogen and testosterone will rise together. So the AI of your choice should be used in the last 2 weeks of the cycle and immediately discontinued at the start of PCT.

The choice of SERM and duration may vary but PCT should always start with Clomid. You do not need a huge dose in the first few days.

Here is what to do:
Start with Clomid for three weeks and reduce the dosage and overlap it with Nolva in week four. Dose Nolva for 3 weeks thereafter.


After 7 weeks in the last day of Nolva introduce an AI and run that by itself for three or four days.

Clomid does more then act as an anti-estrogen in certain tissues. In the pituitary it acts as an estrogen, sensitizing pituitary cells to the actions of gonadotropin-releasing hormone (GnRH). This stimulates release of FSH & LH. Enclomid the active anti-estrogenic component of Clomid is as effective as Clomid in this regard.

Tamoxifen (an anti-estrogen) is completely ineffective.

Clomid mediates the positive effect at the estrogen receptor.

Both Clomid and tamoxifen are almost equally effective at binding to the pituitary estrogen receptor. As noted Tamoxifen has no estrogen mediated effect in terms of an ability to increase GnRH-stimulated release of FSH & LH. What it does is just occupy the receptors...or block them so that E2 or Clomid can not have a positive influence.

That isn't what we want in the first few weeks of PCT. That is why not to use Tamoxifen in those early weeks.
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Thank you for all the informations.

I will use your PCT advice but without Adex (unavailable):

Week 1 Clomid 50mg
Week 2 Clomid 50mg
Week 3 Clomid 25mg
Week 4 Clomid 25mg + nolva 20mg
Week 5 Nolva 20mg
Week 6 Nolva 10mg
Week 7 Nolva 10mg
 
someUser said:
Thank you for all the informations.

I will use your PCT advice but without Adex (unavailable):

Week 1 Clomid 50mg
Week 2 Clomid 50mg
Week 3 Clomid 25mg
Week 4 Clomid 25mg + nolva 20mg
Week 5 Nolva 20mg
Week 6 Nolva 10mg
Week 7 Nolva 10mg
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Maybe try aromasin if you can get it 12.5mg once before start of PCT, once in last week of PCT... Lowering estrogen production is kinda important in the scheme of things...
 
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