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cooking ketamine - why ?

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samdm

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I always cook ketamine before i sniff it, I dont actually know why its just something i've seen my friends do then I do it (force of habbit if you will)

what does cooking ketamine achieve ? do you need to cook ketamine ?

(for those of you who dont know - cooking ket my way is 2 plates, add boiling water, put in microwave for 5mins then scrape the plate until the powder is back)
 
samdm said:
so by cooking it im reducing the harm its doing to my body ?
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I'd wait til someone else gives a better answer who would know better. That's my guess, but I know for certain cooking some drugs (even though a lot of people do it) can cause more damage.

For example, a certain drug D (I've forgotten it's real name) gets cooked on a spoon by a lot of people, most of the time just so they can make it dissolve into solution quicker. What they don't realise is the heating just helps the adulterants dissolve into it as well (if the choice of adulterant happens to be less soluble than D). In this case, they've just made it more harmful.

That's for injecting solutions though, I'm not sure how it is for sniffing and recrystallisation.
 
Pointless, I think this is done because people misunderstand the term cooking. It does not so much refer directly to boiling but to crystallization of the ketamine. The fact that starting from liquid ketamine, heating it is the usual way to achieve this seems to create some confusion:
If you already have powder or crystal, there is nothing to be gained. Though if done correctly redissolving and subsequently recrystallizing one may produce a product of higher purity and/or better appearance, both of which have some value - depending on what you are planning to do with the K. But unless you know your chemistry, there is little use in trying that by how you do it using simply a microwave. It will not get more pure that way.

So for our typical intents and purposes there is nothing to be gained.

You can save yourself some time and energy from now on.
 
This thread makes me lauhh no one iny circle does this it just seems retartes to me
 
Bacteria don't grow on ketamine powder, they just land on it from the air - but many bacteria also land in your nose when you breathe in - it is not dangerous because your body has defense mechanisms that do not allow the bacteria to really pass into the blood stream or rest of the body. So no, that is not it either. FYI if you wish to inject, then not only boiling but preferably using a 0.2 um filter is necessary to get the bacteria out. Obviously a lot of users cook up in a spoon the classic way but that is not best practice with intramuscular injections.

I already gave the explanation why others are cooking K, just wanted to clear this up as well.

Was there anything else?
 
one of those annoying drug myths, where there is absolutely no point in arguing with the druggies who insist it's getting "stronger" and "better" and they just know. in the same league as making a "speed-mud" with some water, then putting it in the freezer, drying it, then claiming it is some sort of "paste" and "stronger" and "better". :!

ps: it's good cause they (or someone "who knows more about drugs than you do" ) had a good experience with it and want good experiences in the future. typical case of self conditioning. in this case a strong one as the amplifier is strong. it's completely irrelevant that there is no coherence between the act and the amplifier.
 
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I know round the south west its always cooked up, generally by he buyer. I find the powder more enjoyable to sniff and seems to go further. I also feel is easier to manage and aborbs quicker up the nasal passage.
 
I think I've read about some people rehydrating k so its a little easier on the nose. Don't recall methods or efficacy though. Ketamine always makes me sneeze. Like every time I do a bump. Its weird.
 
I hate having to explain to people all they were doing was adding water then removing it. Exposing a drug to heat that could potentially damage it and has no change of doing anything good. So many people insist they are turning crystals into powder, which apparently isn't what happens when you crush crystals and when I try my best to calmly explain nothing is changing chemically and if they just evaporated the water very slowly they would be left with big crystals again. Usually when I have finished I get a look similar to one you would get if you showed a dog a magic trick. Also I have nice frying pans I'd hate to think the damage I would do scraping powder off them.

If I seem a little touchy on the subject its because I used to get it from a guy who insisted it wasn't safe to use until it was boiled in water. It annoyed me that my drugs were being damaged or potentially weakened in some way (I'm not actually sure how sensitive k is to heat) because due to a lack of basic knowledge it was being cooked in a frying pan.

As far as hydrating k so its easier on the nose, seems plausible but its going to hurt like hell anyway. I tend to just clear my nose as much as possible and wet it a little with water to help absorption.
 
Just find a better way to crush your crystals and take a little more time with the crushing if you want it to be easier on the nose.

Superquick microwave recrystallization will probably make small particles compared to slow and careful crystallization, but like fluke just suggested you can also just crush your crystals. Roll over them with something inflexible, repeat. Or use a card to scrape them over and press them onto a mirror, repeat.

If you want to argue this, find an actual argument and not that your experiences told you that it helped. Maybe it did, but if you just crush it you have total control and it can go quicker and save you the spatter, plus you don't need a microwave handy.

Don't be superstitious, think for yourself.
 
Ketamine has never been hard on my nose after taking a little time to crush it up effectively. I suspect a lot of people aren't doing too thorough job crushing it up. I'd also imagine crushing up the crystals effectively would do more to alleviate any pain than cooking it.
 
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