Common Excuses People Give After Testing Positive on Drug Tests

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Common Excuses People Give After Testing Positive on Drug Tests
June 15


If you Google on how to tell if someone is lying about using drugs, the best thing you can get is to watch out how they behave. The sad truth about it is most drug abusers are so used to hiding their addiction that lying about not using — right in your face — becomes second nature. It’s no different when it comes to lying about why their drug tests turned out positive.

Excuse #1: It must be something I ate!

Yes, what we take in can affect what comes out in the drug tests. For example, eating a couple of bagels with poppy seeds in them may cause you to fail a drug test– bu do you think saying that you passed by a bagel store for breakfast would really save you from being investigated over drug abuse? Come on, times have changed, technologies have improved and standards have been modified. You surely didn’t think drug laboratories just stood idly while people claim one after another that their positive results are due to poppy seeds, did you?

Excuse #2: I had a headache and took some Ibuprofen and Advil.

Over-the-counter drugs may actually help mask some drugs and can even be a valid excuse when someone tested positive in a drug test. Ibuprofen or Advil can produce false positives, along with a long list of drugs that can also mask other drugs like cocaine, opiates, ecstasy or LSD. This is why laboratory staff ask patients to fill out long forms, where you can declare right before the drug tests what kinds of medication you are currently taking. This way, laboratory analysts are able to put these into consideration.

Excuse #3: There must have been a mix-up with the samples!

Laboratories are supervised and monitored closely plus positive drug tests are subjected to automatic confirmatory tests, but it does not mean the system is perfect. So, if you honestly think you haven’t taken drugs yet tested positive on the drug test, ask for a re-testing. Just be sure you really are drug-free. Otherwise, you would just have caused a lot of trouble and a waste of time, effort and money for everyone involved.
 
Number 3 is so rediculous imo. I get drug tested, and this is the procedure:

I might go to a window and sign in (no id required) and sign a form.
Then I sit in the waiting room and wait, can't leave or it doesn't count.
Then a lab guy will take the form, fill out some of his stuff, and call you into the back.
You then must take off glasses/jacket/hat and hang them all up/put them on shelf in bathroom.
You then are required to wash your hands/dry them off completely.
After the above 2, the lab guy who was watching this, will enter the bathroom and shut the door.
You have to take the cap off a safety sealed bottle, breaking the seal, and place it face UP on a table.
Then you may piss into the cup, while standing over the toilet (if you're a women you have to squat and can't touch the floor), you are given 3 minutes to complete this task, or else you use up one of your 3 tries.
Should be noted that the toilet water is blue, and there are mirrors to the side and back of the toilet.
You then can hand the sample to the guy/continue pissing if you are so inclinded.
The lab guy will check to see if it passes a priliminary temp screen, if its within range procedures continue:
He then screws on the cap, and puts a new big ass red security tape over it, and inserts it into a bag -> You are required to watch this.
Then he signs a form, and you sign it, and you watch him put it into a seperate part of this bag.
The bag is the sealed it'self.
You are done.
You also get 3 tries per day/can't leave in between, or it doesn't count
 
Whats the point of this article..?

And "masking" a drug test for LSD? How about first you show me a piss test for LSD.
 
Poppy seeds, and products containing them, can produce positive opiate tests. The question is, will it be believed.
 
^ Most likely it will warrant getting/testing another sample which may give the person time to clean up (even temporarily) and pass, if they're smart at least...
 
this is just a heads up to anyone facing drug testing out there. i don't know if it goes for all SSRI's, but i was on zoloft and had a false positive for benzos. this caused me a lot of unexpected trouble. i was being drug tested on a somewhat regular basis by my fascist aunt. i got the pattern down to basically once every few weeks, and the more negatives i had, the less she would test me. so i was able to play it and do stuff like a little percocet or vicodin every once in a while by doing it so by the time i was tested i would be clean.

oh and i should mention she was taking me to a place that had a lab machine thing in it, and was the same facility used by the state for probation and stuff.

my strategy was to not do any drugs until i was tested. i knew that test would be negative when my aunt went to check on the results in a week. so pretty much the day after i got tested, i would do whatever i wanted to do and stop before it was time for my next test.

so 1 day i went into the testing place knowing i was completely clean. so the next day i started my week long binge on percocet 10's, thinking i was safe. to my horror, the next time we went in there (in a week) it said i had showed up positive for benzos. i kept saying there was no way, and my aunt was furious (she's a very suspicious, angry, unpleasant person) and i'm a "drug addict" so whose gonna believe me? the head of the place kept referencing his huge manual for false positives for medications and stuff and couldnt find anything for zoloft (which is what i was taking at the time).
Also, they had conveniently just thrown out my sample earlier that day so they couldnt retest it. they said the only way to clear this up was to test me again that day (i was shitting myself) so knowing i was dirty as a mofo, i pissed in the cup and went on with my day. the next day we went in to check on it, and sure enough, the lady behind the desk informs my aunt that my results are in and my opiate levels are twice as high as they normally see. it was really bad for me, lets just say that.

moral of the story is, this previously unknown quality of zoloft messed my whole schedule of drug-taking up because i thought i would be clean, but the false positive caused me to have to take another test and it just fucked everything up. i should sue pfizer.
 
I woulda told my aunt to go fuck herself, real talk. Unless you a minor, fuck that bitch.


Anyways, Jamtastic, why u gettin tested for? Is it probation, or wat? My probation sure as hell aint no strict ass shit like that. methadone clinic? Just curious.

Anyways, the poppy seed thing aint a lie. The article is stupid for saying "Oh, dont you think they know better?" Its a legit false positive, and "investigating you for drug abuse" amounts to the drug test. unless we talkin about some kind of crazy "investigation" with private detectives following you or some crap, all that any of that will amount to is testin you for drugs. And if the drug test is wrong becuz of a false positive caused by poppy seeds, theyll do another one.

And obviously they totally ignorant about how the poppy seed defense works or why, becuz if they knew anything about the way opiates and poppy seeds metabolize, they would realize that the reason it can cause a false + is becuz its the SAME compounds in the piss.....It aint like its some type of totally different thing that triggers the positive result on accident, and once the accident gets discovered they will have totally found you out. Its the same things in the sample that would trigger a positive whether its for dope, morphine, poppy seeds or w'ever which is why its used as a common excuse, becuz it really can happen.

Its pretty clear that whoever made this article aint aware that poppy seeds contain the same alkaloids that heroin and many opiates does. It will produce a positive test, the only thing that they could test for to tell the difference would be 6-Monoacetylmorphine which is a by product of processing heroin into morphine in the body, but that leaves ur body within 24 hours usually, so after that all there is is "morphine" , and not heroin specific.

The thing is that probation will never, ever believe the poppy seed excuse, even though it most definately is a valid one. I just read a study the other day that said eatin 2 poppy seed bagels, or one slice of poppy seed cake which is some kind of polish or russian dessert, will produce a definite positive for opiates.
 
i am a minor but fuck that bitch anyway, u dont understand she's horrible. she's not horrible for not wanting me to do drugs and die, or whatever, but she's a really negative person. i can't stand her.
 
false positives and false negatives are ALWAYS possible. Even if you are dirty, doesn't hurt to just ask for another. Screw up may work in your favor (rare, but fuck them, waste their money!).

Makes me think of monopoly treasure chest card "Bank Error in Your Favor" yeah when does that happen!
 
When you do the PO's laugh at you. Real talk I played that card both times i got a dirty and they just keep you in the room and say admit you used. admit you used. admit you used. admit yu used. if you dont admit you used we gonna lock you up . just be honest. Just dont lie. Be honest and this will be OK. Keep lying and act like it wasnt you, and youll get locked up.

And they will....

I got a dirty after using Dilaudid like 3 days before my test. I had used dope SIX days earlier becuz i wanted to be sure I would be clean. I had pissed clean after like 3 and a half, 4 days of not using, so I KNOW i was clean for dope after 6 days.

But, I had been shootin Dillys for like 2 days, and bootin em alot, I had enough that I was havin me some fun--personally I did not think the amounts I was using was a lot, I was only doin 16mg shots , so I gues that registers as a lot in your piss though.

Becuz as we have all heard, Hydromorphone is SUPPOSE to leave your body fast as hell, in like 48 hrs max. Not only that, but it SHOULD NOT show up on a standard, 5panel piss screen that only includes "opiates" such as codeine, morphine, heroin, and alkaloids of those drugs. As far as we all know, oxycodone, hydrocodione, and hydromorphone, as well as probably oxymorphone (dont know enough about the way it metabolizes, but since oxycodone metabolizes into oxymorphone, i figure that if OC dont show, OM wont either),--all of thsoe are "safe" for the standard 5panel tox screen. They need a special test , GCMS or just a more specific piss screen that can detect the totally synthetic opioid compounds since there aint none of the morphine metabolites that come from them ,which means they would leave a morphine screen totally clean. but thats all how it SHOULD work, and

Apparently it dont. Ill explain how it happened to me and how i did some reasearching and tracked down how i managed to get a dirty for MORPHINE, when I had not used a drug that would trigger a positive in almost a week, and knowing my own body it only took less than 5 days to clear out all morphine type metabolites. THIS is the interesting thing--

I read a study that was evaluating pain patients who was taking Hydromorphone for pain. They got tested to be sure that they wasnt using heroin or other drugs on top of their meds.

Well a bunch of false positives for Heroin/Morphine came up, and the drs was able to verify that the patient HAD NOT used either of those drug,

It turns out that in high doses, and in some cases, Hydromorphone metabolizes and creates a certain metabolite that is the same one that is created when Morphine metabolizes in ur body. They share that one little metabolite, i forget the name but Ill do my best to find it for yall, and it can cause a piss test to come up positive for Morphine/heroin, even when the only shit you did was Dilaudid, which is a TOTALLY SYNTHETIC opioid, which should NEVER show up on the standard "opiate" test which only detects morphine and heroin, codeine, etc, organic opiate compounds.

We all know that Oxy dont show up on a opiate standard piss screen, you can be high as shit while you piss and still be clean . SO i thought, NO WAY that dilaudid would even show up at all, I could do it the day of probation and still piss clean, but i still gave myself 3 days to be safe. But that one metabolite that gets excreted when you do higher doses, somehow it has morphine compounds in it and is the same thing that you would be pissing out if you had dosed a opiate like heroin, etc, and can cause a dirty.

So just a warning to any of yall who thought that dilaudid was free n clear and wouldnt show on a standard screen test, it will if you do enough , close enough to the test. I almost went to jail becuz of that, so dont forget that evne the "clean", totally synthetic opioids that you USUALLY need a special seperate test for, may create morphine metabolites if you use enough and make you come up dirty for a regular heroin/morphine test.
 
I've heard of some anecdotal evidence that you might fail a standard 5 panel if using "a lot" of oxycodone or hydrocodone. I can't quantify "a lot" and I'm not sure it wasn't a false positive.
Still, my advice is always to stay clean if your freedom depends on it. It just ain't worth it.
 
Black Skin. This is not a joke! Those of African origin, certain Orientals, or pacific Islanders might test positive for marijuana. Dr. James Woodford, a toxicologist associated with Emory University labs hypothesized the pigment melanin which protects the skin from the sun, approximates the molecular structure of the THC metabolite to cross react on the marijuana urine test. Dark skinned Caucasians such as those from the subcontinent of India could also read positive on marijuana tests. The body eliminates some melanin in a dark person's urine sample.
 
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