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I posted four reports of siddhi experiences in this post: the connection between meditation and ayahuasca (Also see my posts in the comments)
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Or is it a distinction between those acknowledging it and those deny-ing it.Those who believe or suspect that there is more than the just the "material world"?
Like a stigma, as no one no what a other believes/ thinks, let alone their one.
Something that mostly rely s on intuition. Is replace by assumptions.
Most often freedom/ spirituality/ your own path is demolished.
During childhood indoctrination, Parents/ Community.
If your religious brought up. And its not up to your decision.
Not done buy free choice.
Pakistani kids reciting the Islamic Koran good to the extreme example.
They don t even know what it means. So , why ?
Control, spiritual murdering could you call it that ? My Mom a Hardcore Atheist.
Didn t force it on me, but laughed at any form of spirituality and religion.
That s not a open view for a kid that follows their first examples.
Closely, do adults realize this, no the where brainwashed too.
As i see it.
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I do agree with a lot. (Never heard of Teal Swan thankfully lol) But as soon as someone criticizes something the opposite end of the stick exists, which would also be a belief system. (God I feel bad for people that make Terrance McKenna such a serious example, the dude was a jokester, makes me wonder what this person would think of the Merry Pranksters) We must not forget that among the Terrance rants he and his brother Dennis put out the first book on how to grow mushrooms about 50 years ago.
Avoiding belief systems is how I remained sane through my 46 years of tripping. I love ideas, but would never definitively say this is true or that is true. Otherwise I may have been someone to hand out Hari Krishna pamphlets at the airport.
I have more to watch in that video, so I may change my comment. But I am more interested in the second video Red posted just posted after this one.
Yes the whole Ayahuasca thing (as well as legal cannabis) has irritated me with all the new folklore. Everybody knows everything these days. I like the format of tripping where LSD was released to the public and people listened to music and that was that, That is my belief system.
Oh and the new age movement started long before he said it did. But I also agree with some of the spotlighted silliness. But I also think he misses some humor.
Oh and @RichardDawkins still owes us a mescaline trip. After reading Huxley he said it interested him. But reading is not experiencing.
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i like this definition.Those who believe or suspect that there is more than the just the "material world"?
i've had a lot of experiences that i consider synchronicities.. i don't get why tripping would cause this stuff.. it's like people feel like god is letting them in on something because they trip.. god rewards me regardless of whether or not i use drugs. i'm actually glad a lot of the experiences i consider "signs" occurred when i wasn't tripping, but then again, i think i could also just be experiencing schizophrenia and viewing things the wrong ways or reading too much into stuff... part of me feels like i'm very spiritual and contacted by higher powers, but then again i could just be crazy.
i don't know why people would just assume a lot of their experiences they get while tripping are something spritual.. some of the stuff is just pretty vague and doesn't make a lot of sense to me. it's like the people want to be experiencing something spiritual, so they end up grasping on to experiences that the drug makes them think is mystical when it doesn't really make a lot of sense.. people could very well say that about the stuff i experience.
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For me, tripping did increase synchronicities to a great degree. Especially at a show or festival with other people.
I remember driving home with a few friends after a Dead show very high. We got lost coming out of the Nassau Coliseum and were trying to find our way home. On the radio comes on the Traffic song I'm wasted and I can't find my way home as we were trying to find our way home. (c'mon at the least it is very funny!) Multiply that by the 9th degree makes me think the psychedelic state helps us make connections and links between consciousness and matter. So I for sure "believe", for me, that I do get more synchronicities in the psychedelic state. No need to add the word spiritual to that though. And we don't need a psychedelic for that to happen. But I can say tripping in crowds those connection happens more in my life.
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Oh and @RichardDawkins still owes us a mescaline trip. After reading Huxley he said it interested him. But reading is not experiencing.
I remember seeing a video of his where he faced the camera and stated that he didn't have any experience with psychedelics, but that the mind-expanding viewpoint piqued his interest and he could see himself trying a psychedelic. Do you happen to have a link to that video? It's important for the growth of this movement to archive stuff like that. I also remember Kevin O'Leary made a similar video with a focus on the microdosing angle. I say it's important to archive stuff like this because there are some people who would try a psychedelic or at least shift their viewpoint simply from watching a video like that.
For the Anthony Bourdain fans:
Anthony Bourdain interview on taking LSD. Insider Tech, Nov 2 2016, YouTube
I've been wanting to start up a psychedelic archiving project. Anyone can be an archivist nowadays. Not that it isn't already being done (psychedelicarchive.com), but we need even more contributors.
On the Importance of Web Archiving
https://community.archivebox.io/
The critical window of shadow libraries. Anna's Archive, 2024-07-16
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synchronicities are when stuff happens together, and are significant because it seems that they are related in ways that are not necessarily just coincidental.
due to slower fading and experience frame stacking or layering while on psychedelics even more synchronicity happens because a longer duration of time can occupy the same moment of experience.
cause and effect go out the window unless the tripper has a very good connection with the fleeting moment,
also as far as reasoning goes, opposing views of the same topic may coincide and both may seem equally valid to the tripper who is straddling time whether he wants to or not.
due to slower fading and experience frame stacking or layering while on psychedelics even more synchronicity happens because a longer duration of time can occupy the same moment of experience.
cause and effect go out the window unless the tripper has a very good connection with the fleeting moment,
also as far as reasoning goes, opposing views of the same topic may coincide and both may seem equally valid to the tripper who is straddling time whether he wants to or not.
In addition to drugs' widespread applications, I'm also super obsessive about researching the American alt right and its various tendrils out into society here. Teal Swan is a great example of how yoga moms get brainwashed by shit like qanon. Teal Swan specifically surged in popularity during the hard times brought on by covid, she's also manipulated a handful of people into suicide intentionally and openly has admitted to it numerous times. She did a good job at mimicking Scientology's playbook if you dive into her nonsense, but she also believes she's an alien goddess healer meant to rescue humanity essentially. She's one kooky influencer, that's for sure.
As far as spirituality being marred by things like ayahuasca, I think that's goofy as can be. Most people, especially in contemporary western societies, have no relationship to spirituality or anything even remotely adjacent. Where I grew up in Maine, religion was taught in schools as a delusion that those in the past carried in their pockets to cope with reality. The town I grew up in also has a lot of naturally derived folk magic, leftover remnants of the predominantly celtic immigrants who settled in the area ~500 years ago. The majority of people never think of spirituality until it's right in front of their face is really what I'm trying to get at, and few things channel feelings of religiosity quite like harmaline, DMT, and LSD imo.
I suspect that what we're seeing is a surge of people new to spirituality without proper social guidance on how to channel that into figuring out their own "personal spirituality" or whatever it should be called. Imo that's the best route, it keeps organized religion at bay while allowing people to interface with spirituality on their own terms.
As far as spirituality being marred by things like ayahuasca, I think that's goofy as can be. Most people, especially in contemporary western societies, have no relationship to spirituality or anything even remotely adjacent. Where I grew up in Maine, religion was taught in schools as a delusion that those in the past carried in their pockets to cope with reality. The town I grew up in also has a lot of naturally derived folk magic, leftover remnants of the predominantly celtic immigrants who settled in the area ~500 years ago. The majority of people never think of spirituality until it's right in front of their face is really what I'm trying to get at, and few things channel feelings of religiosity quite like harmaline, DMT, and LSD imo.
I suspect that what we're seeing is a surge of people new to spirituality without proper social guidance on how to channel that into figuring out their own "personal spirituality" or whatever it should be called. Imo that's the best route, it keeps organized religion at bay while allowing people to interface with spirituality on their own terms.
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I totally agree Red I also remember that same video and remember it the same way. Possibly a youtube video. Let me see if I can locate it. I remember leaving a comment, he had said he was also worried of scrambling his brain. I think I said in a comment it will scramble a brain the same way a telescope would to an astronomers view. Huxley talked about the mind as a filter. So yeah, some delicate explaining is needed in order to not frighten anyone who has not taken it but is interested.
Well put.
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"When I was, I think maybe 20, or maybe a little younger, I did—I think it was LSD. Tried it because I wanted to see what would happen creatively. And I have a very non-addictive personality—but what happened is I saw God—or I thought I did—I talked to God…I left this reality and basically went elsewhere and this was kind of a profound experience, I guess you might say, for that age. And this was before I linked up my chakras through kundalini and had samadhi experiences… But I'd always been kind of a metaphysical—I consider myself an Indigo child, whatever you want to call that. So, it was very real and I understood the nature of all existence at that time. And I was basically told that everything that goes on down here is actually OK—that it is a game and that we are allowed and there was a tremendous amount of love and it was an amazing experience. And then, after that, obviously I endeavored to reach what I considered to be enlightenment and to do that I linked the chakras and so one through meditation. And I did that very consciously—I basically meditated every day for about two months. That was when I was a little older than that, and I was living in New York, studying acting a night and meditating all day. So, I had a lot of expereinces like that, I had lots of visitations, lots of ET expereinces when I was very young—really, probably too numerous to mention. I have had visitations by various ET races …"
A Look Inside Project Camelot (Part 7/8) with Fritz Stammberger and Kerry Cassidy [7:07-9:31]. @islandonlinenews, Apr 30 2010, YouTube
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A Look Inside Project Camelot (Part 7/8) with Fritz Stammberger and Kerry Cassidy [7:07-9:31]. @islandonlinenews, Apr 30 2010, YouTube
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I am a former atheist who became spiritual because of my psychedelics use.
I think that many spiritual leaders are starting to wake up to this.
Lama Mike Crowley and others have done some incredible work discussing the use of psychedelics to further spiritual practice.
On the Judeo-Christian side of things, there’s a lot of less publicly prominent individuals doing similar work. The father of a close friend of mine is a Christian Eastern Orthodox priest & university professor who teaches a class at a major university on Christian theology & psychedelics; I’ll have a look and see if he has published anything on the topic. I’m planning on interviewing him soon for my podcast regardless.
I think that many spiritual leaders are starting to wake up to this.
Lama Mike Crowley and others have done some incredible work discussing the use of psychedelics to further spiritual practice.
On the Judeo-Christian side of things, there’s a lot of less publicly prominent individuals doing similar work. The father of a close friend of mine is a Christian Eastern Orthodox priest & university professor who teaches a class at a major university on Christian theology & psychedelics; I’ll have a look and see if he has published anything on the topic. I’m planning on interviewing him soon for my podcast regardless.
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i'm not sure if you are describing what i talk about when saying sometimes with synchronicity seeming real i wonder if i've been dwelling upon something for longer than i thought, and that's why a coincidence aligns with it. like it seems more special cause i think the thoughts are fleeting and the synchronicity occurs in the moment, but maybe that's not really the case.
i was wondering if some of the synchronicity i think occurs because i'm schizo, but i'm on meds and some weird stuff still happens. i'm on a low dose, it could be in my head, but honestly something happened to me recently and it just doesn't add up to not being spiritual. not sure if i wrote this on blue light, this is a bit different then what i normal consider synchronicity and might not even be the definition, but my mother had a mild stroke recently and she's been getting kind of dellusional as an after effect. i was smoking weed in my room one night, and found myself getting up and walking downstairs, i was like "i feel like i'm tripping" and i was pretty confused. i walked into the kitchen and was looking around like "what am i doing", and then i noticed my mother was in there in the corner pouring a bottle of wine into a box of dog biscuits... i was trying to ground her and i was like "maybe this is a sign you're worried about drinking alcohol by wasting it that, maybe you didn't really want to drink it". she didn't seem into the idea at first, but i think she would've went into the cabinet and got some hard alcohol a couple hours later, maybe she would've poured that out too. i have no idea... but i felt like i was guided to see her for a reason, and she would've covered up what she was doing and with people obvoiusly worrying, she really only has a couple sips of wine a couple times a week now. she seems to have consciously cut down. i don't know if it's because i came in the kitchen, but i really feel like i was guided.. makes me think some of the synchronicity in my life could've been real... i've also been with friend's with weird stuff happening in nature in the past... my friend's vouche for some of the stuff. it makes me feel like we have a real solid friendship sometimes.
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I was about to say, interview him immediately! And you should have hyperlinked your podcast, i.e. "for my podcast regardless."
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It’s not out yet, but I’m happy to link the episode here if I remember to once it is published.
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this is not about you dwelling on anything.
when stoned, things don't fade as quickly.
in the brain, it is as if something that happened 4 seconds ago is just starting to happen right now still, so your are flushed full of what appears to be right now, even though it is already passed.
dwelling is more like looping. that also happens more easily when the triggers to a loop are more persistent.