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Comment period for placement of 5-MeO-DMT into Schedule I of the CSA

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http://edocket.access.gpo.gov/2009/E9-20204.htm

DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE

Drug Enforcement Administration

21 CFR Part 1308

[Docket No. DEA-331]


Schedules of Controlled Substances: Placement of 5-Methoxy-N,N-
Dimethyltryptamine Into Schedule I of the Controlled Substances Act

AGENCY: Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA), Department of Justice.

ACTION: Notice of Proposed Rulemaking.

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SUMMARY: The Deputy Administrator of the Drug Enforcement
Administration (DEA) is issuing this notice of proposed rulemaking to
place the substance 5-methoxy-N,N-dimethyltryptamine (5-MeO-DMT) and
its salts into schedule I of the Controlled Substances Act (CSA). This
proposed action is based on a recommendation from the Acting Assistant
Secretary for Health of the Department of Health and Human Services
(DHHS) and on an evaluation of the relevant data by DEA. If finalized
as proposed, this action would impose the criminal sanctions and
regulatory controls of schedule I substances under the CSA on the
manufacture, distribution, dispensing, importation, exportation, and
possession of 5-MeO-DMT.

DATES: Written comments must be postmarked, and electronic comments
must be sent, on or before September 21, 2009. Commenters should be
aware that the electronic Federal Docket Management System will not
accept comments after midnight Eastern time on the last day of the
comment period.

Send in those comments, folks... Maybe we can at least get it placed in Schedule II instead...
 
Yeah, but you can't say you didn't see it coming. ;)

I really wonder what's going to happen to TIHKAL/PIHKAL.

Not being an American I cannot send in a comment. Have you posted this in NADD or DiTM?
 
Nope, but I think Psychedelic Drugs is frequented by all of the 5-MeO-DMT loving Bluelighters from the US. If you're into the MeO-DMT, you're into the PD.

I had a hard time deciding what forum to pick though, and almost went with Drugs in the Media or Legal Discussion... but I think posting about this in the most widely read forum will have the most favorable impact.
 
Is Dr. Howard Koh the Acting Assistant
Secretary for Health of the Department of Health and Human Services who recommended that the DEA place this chemical into Schedule I?
 
Nope, but I think Psychedelic Drugs is frequented by all of the 5-MeO-DMT loving Bluelighters from the US. If you're into the MeO-DMT, you're into the PD.

I had a hard time deciding what forum to pick though, and almost went with Drugs in the Media or Legal Discussion... but I think posting about this in the most widely read forum will have the most favorable impact.

I very much understand your reasoning. The more exposure it gets to people who care, the more comments get sent. :)
 
they mention 5-meo-dmt deaths in the 'background' section?

These data show that the continued trafficking
and abuse of 5-MeO-DMT pose hazards to the public health and safety.
Indeed, there have been reports of emergency room admissions and death
associated with the abuse of 5-MeO-DMT.

i can't seem to find their

References to the above studies and data may be found in the Health and Human Services scheduling recommendation and DEA's independent analysis, both of which are available on the electronic docket associated with this rulemaking.
 
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What the fuck is this all about they are placing 5-MeO-DMT into schedule 1 this makes little sense to me as i've been waiting for 2C-I to go down and it is still legal although a clear analog though clearly!!!:\

Well I hope they lose this battle and they just may as proving it is being abused oh what the fuck am I saying its as good as scheduled!!!:|
 
The Analog Act looks less and less relevant every time they add a new chemical to the CSA as a Schedule I.
 
I wish I (or anyone for that matter) could follow their logic.....so by scheduling are they admitting that the extra carbon in the 5 position deems it not an analog of dmt and worthy of scheduling in its own right? But they include the other halo substituted 2c-xs as analogs of 2c-b? so by extending that logic the alkyl substituted 2c's are NOT analogs? geeeze. Im starting to get the feeling that maybe, just maybe, these fuckers don't know what they are doing? ;) and my goodness, i dont think ive ever met a drug with less abuse potential than 5 meo. and deaths? where? I first ordered 5 meo from aldrich about 18 years ago, quite cheap. And as a testament to its abuse potential I never had to order again. :D And then about 10 years ago I noticed the price start to creep up, and has so steadily as the demand has increased. 600% increase in the last decade! Maybe aldrich will petition against its scheduling.....heh
 
Is there going to be a provision made for ppl who have 5-MeO-DMT secreting toads?
 
Must not have much to do at the DEA this month. I know so many people with that 5-meo-dmt jones. I mean it's almost an obscure group of people who are interested in this drug in the first place (me being one). Most people try it once and move on. Except for the fact that it has the potential to be lethal (like so many other non-scheduled things) whoes bitch'n about the big 5-meo-dmt problem?

I'm sure several orders of magnatude of people have died from alcohol poisoning this year alone! Of course this argument is as old as the hills, seems to have no effect on the the people who make decisions about what substances I can put in my body.:X

I'll step off the soapbox now.
 
The only thing that placing the compound in Schedule I achieves is a complete lockdown on any sort of legitimate scientific or clinical research--which is exactly what the DEA, et al. want. The fewer potential psychedelic compounds available for research and the more red tape surrounding psychedelic research in general, the less positive publicity generated.


Never mind that both 5-MeO-DMT and DMT are endogenous neuromodulators--and since possession of any quantity of any compound to receive the "Schedule I" death sentence is illegal, then walking around with one's own brain is illegal. If serotonin itself were capable of passing through the blood-brain-barrier, then it too would be Schedule I.

And to anyone attempting to make comments, I commend you, but also must inform you that these comments have never actually been taken into consideration in the scheduling of a compound: so-called "public hearings" operate much like the voting process in the Soviet Union did--there is only one name on the ballot, so the whole process is nothing but a little dog-and-pony show. Besides, with the analogue law, they have the ability to declare any chemical whatsoever ipso facto Schedule I at any time for the exclusive purpose of prosecuting possession/consumption.

Edit: and since they are finally moving forward with this one--which they have wanted to do for a long time--I assume that they will use the opportunity to throw everything that hasn't already been blacklisted from PIHKAL and TIHKAL into the fire.

"It's not a war on drugs, it's a war on personal freedom--keep that in mind at all times..."
-Bill Hicks (1961-1994)
 
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOO. I haven't tried 5-MeO-DMT yet, but I love DMT. I guess I'll have to buy some now while I still can.

Sad day :(
 
They're all sad days--there hasn't been a 'happy day' since 1970. It seems there shall never be any sort of victory or any breakthrough in pharmacological research in the USA while the draconian ignorance of the DEA and bureaucratic mumbo-jumbo of the FDA rule the land.
 
This makes me so mad....goddamn I can't even express it. I just don't understand that even though we are in the 21st century our government still refuses to acknowledge the possible benefits of these chemicals....not to mention, as stated before, many can be found already in the human brain.

The brain is such a complex organ capable of being manipulated in many ways by different chemicals; I see no reason why research on these chemicals should be halted out of what, fear? ignorance? social stability? These people do not know what they are doing and are really missing many opportunities that could very possibly benefit humans in a huge way.
 
^^^^ That's what makes it so fucking infuriating (so infuriating that I too cannot adequately express the vitriol through mere words): things such as logic, scientific/medical evidence and potential clinical benefit have absolutely zero bearing on policy--in fact, they are actively and purposefully ignored. The only deciding factors in contemporary policy are (1) corporate money/interest, (2) fear and hysteria and (3) religious hypocrisy. And this applies to more than just drug policy. One look at health care policy, energy policy, economic and foreign policy in the United States is enough to see that empirical evidence is utterly powerless to overcome old-money special interests and "moral panic" style paranoid scaremongering.

The fact that an ordinary citizen attempting to lead a better, more peaceful existence and explore his own psyche by consumption of a given psychotropic chemical is regarded, by the federal government, to be equivalent to a murderer, rapist or other violent criminal is one of the greatest injustices of the modern era.
 
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