Cocaine Cocaine

[chrisalt]

just some questions.

1. how much coke is fairly safe to do in a evening? like .5mg or 1gram?

2. how per much per line in mg?

3. say im using a half gram. How often should i redose? every hour or so?

 

[obscure]

This is really on the line of getting shut down. All I'll say is find a friend who knows what they're doing and have them walk you through what's safe(not that coke in any way is.)

And like all things, start with a little, wait until you feel it and adjust accordingly. Just start very very small if you're going to do it, you never know what it's going to be cut with, so a small amount will allow you to know purity and reactions to adulterants.

 

[rhun]

There is just no way for anyone to answer your questions. We don't know the purity of the cocaine you bought.
And no one here wants to suggest an amount that they normally do and have you OD and die because you stumbled across high quality coke.

 

[sekio]

I have a vague recollection that 30mg of intravenous cocaine hydrochloride is rather a lot, so a "dose" is likely going to be anywhere from 50 milligrams up for most people to start with (assuming good quality pure shit)

Really you should try to limit yourself to ~200mg a rail, and probably no more than a gram in a night. But this is of course going to vary with genetics, personal tolerance, and purity of your shit

Slow titration upwards is the best though. Start with a little knife-tip and see how long it goes for, and how it makes you feel. Increase dosage as needed.

 

[Oxide]

seiko said it best, titration is going to be your best bet here. start small and test the waters so to speak.

what's the old adage? "you can always take more, but never less."

 

[wats615]

What oxide said. very good quote. But on another note i get fairly pure coke and IV anywhere from 75-150 mg. but have a pretty high tolerance. but yeah no knowing on how pure your shit is so tread lightly.

 

[sekio]

More reference levels for pure cocaine.

Nasal B.A. 20-30%.
Smoked B.A. 5-30%
Oral B.A. maybe 10%?
IV is of course 100% bioavailiable

General purpose stimulant as derived from coca tea: 200mg/day maximum (orally mind you, which is less effective than nasal) ... blood levels likely don't exceed 5mg ... this corresponds to about 20mg or a "bump" every 3-4h.
"Average street dose" 20-50mg intranasal
Lethal dose approx. 1200mg.

The implication here of course is that with good coke you shouldn't need a lot. It also shouldn't make your whole fucking face numb, and shouldn't last more than maybe 45 minutes, tops.

 

[pbuilder]

More reference levels for pure cocaine.

Nasal B.A. 20-30%.
Smoked B.A. 5-30%
Oral B.A. maybe 10%?
IV is of course 100% bioavailiable

General purpose stimulant as derived from coca tea: 200mg/day maximum (orally mind you, which is less effective than nasal) ... blood levels likely don't exceed 5mg ... this corresponds to about 20mg or a "bump" every 3-4h.
"Average street dose" 20-50mg intranasal
Lethal dose approx. 1200mg.

The implication here of course is that with good coke you shouldn't need a lot. It also shouldn't make your whole fucking face numb, and shouldn't last more than maybe 45 minutes, tops.

Don't know where u grabbed ur numbers from but I know nasal bioavailability is more like 60-80% and you can't compare Iv with nasal cause with a really short acting drug like coke , Iv will always be a whole nother drug cause how it hits you immediately , even if snorted its only 30% weaker, its cuz the dose takes minutes to even absorb.

Edit: but if ur just using the 100% Iv as a referrnce and snorted coke u cud do 3-4x more then yea that's probably about right.

 

[Znegative]

I have a vague recollection that 30mg of intravenous cocaine hydrochloride is rather a lot, so a "dose" is likely going to be anywhere from 50 milligrams up for most people to start with (assuming good quality pure shit)

Really you should try to limit yourself to ~200mg a rail, and probably no more than a gram in a night. But this is of course going to vary with genetics, personal tolerance, and purity of your shit

Slow titration upwards is the best though. Start with a little knife-tip and see how long it goes for, and how it makes you feel. Increase dosage as needed.

Yeah, I would recon that 30mg of IV cocaine would be rather intense, definately pushing it for a naive user. The best cocaine I've ever used intravenously would give me a bellringer (the dangerous goal for all IV coke users, yet the goal nonetheless. Shooting coke isn't really about self preservation..) at doses around 50mg approximately and I'm sure it was still cut to shit. So 30mg of pure blow would probably be rather intense. I also found this little anecodote from drugs.com:

Note: Many of cocaine's systemic adverse effects are due to excessive sympathetic activity {10} {19} and may be caused by rapid absorption, {13} {19} decreased patient tolerance, {01} or, rarely, {19} hypersensitivity. {01} {19} Toxic reactions are relatively uncommon with appropriate use of usual clinical doses.
The fatal dose of cocaine has been reported to be 1.2 grams. However, patient sensitivity to the effects of the medication is highly variable; adverse effects have been reported with as little as 20 mg. {01} {02} {05}
Acute toxicity may occur very rapidly. {01} {12} {19} Manifestations of systemic cocaine toxicity may occur in 3 stages (early stimulation, advanced stimulation, and depression). Although many of the signs and symptoms of early stimulation would not necessarily require medical intervention under other circumstances, their occurrence following use of cocaine indicates that prompt action is required, because progression from one stage of toxicity to the next may be very rapid. {13} {19}

The following side/adverse effects have been selected on the basis of their potential clinical significance (possible signs and symptoms in parentheses where appropriate)—not necessarily inclusive:

OP, I would be careful when using coke. It's very easily to accidentally just take a little too much cocaine and find yourself in a very scary place, ranging from psychosis to life threatening overdoses (and when you overdose on cocaine, it's very scary, as your hyper aware of the fact that your life is in peril. Also, one thing most people are unaware of is that when you overdose, you actually often end up croaking due to resperitory depression. Is really a terrifying experience to be stuck on your floor, gasping for air as your heart races uncontrollably). I would start off with bumps, 20-40mg to begin with, and don't go above 200mg for a line as Sekio said. (Always start with a bump first to check out the purity of the product. With all these RC's and bath salts around today it could be fatal to immediately rail 100mg of what the coroners would later discover to be MDPV..) I would also aim for under a gram/session. My experience with this wicked drug, is the more I have, the more I do (not a good thing). I also recomend trying to space out your lines (I'm assuming your Insufflating the drug). Even when you inject coke, each shot is much more enjoyable if you wait at least over 30 minutes (very hard to do) before redosing. Doing line after line, or shot after shot, will really only increase the euphoria for a little while, and then just put off the inevitable, horrific crash, which becomes worse witch each line, hit, or shot.

On an ending note, Cocaine is not a safe drug PERIOD. Especially nowadays with the cartels using levemasole (an anti worming agent) as a cut. This drug is insanely addictive regardless of the ROA, though freebase/crack and IV use is undeniably 100x more fiendish.

 

[SaosinEngaged]

Standard practice with ALL cut drugs, including heroin:

When you get a new batch, TAKE THE TINIEST AMOUNT POSSIBLE TO GAUGE POTENCY. This can't be said enough.

People die all the time from assuming a new batch,bundle, bag, stamp, 8ball, whatever is the same batch, and therefore the same potency as the shit they were doing the other night, yesterday, last week, etc. Especially if from the same dealer. So they forego testing and just do their usual amount.

Always, always, ALWAYS, ALWAYS test for potency by doing the LEAST amount possible.

 

[Znegative]

Yes, like, a pin head.
I mean, god forbid you think you got heroin, but ended up with fucking a fucking fentanyl analogue..

 

[SaosinEngaged]

Yes, like, a pin head.
I mean, god forbid you think you got heroin, but ended up with fucking a fucking fentanyl analogue..

Good way to end up dead.

 

[obscure]

That's always the rule with tar, smoke before you shoot. Get to know your gear and all that.... And some mysterious white powder that comes in a bag? I've seen people do a line of molly thinking it was coke, they were a little confused. Most drug misadventures can be avoided by a little common sense.