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Cocaine Cocaine used on its own vs combined with valium?

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9Bar_of_Jenkem

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Absolutely flying thru an 8 ball of flake.

I'm kinda jittery and sweating like Epstein in a playground.

I've a couple of valium d5's.

Should I combo them with the coke or mind them for tomorrow morning when I awaken with symptoms of misery, intense regret, buyer's remorse, financial shame, etc

Been at this over 20 years so you'd think I'd know for myself.

Sometimes this combo leads to less than desirable behaviour but im in the safety of my own home with my car keys confiscated so nothing can go wrong.

To combo or to mind till morning?
Your thoughts?
 
I’d save them for when nothing is left.. but that’s just me.

I’d try some deep breathing exercises before I wasted my benzos. Especially if you’re going into tomorrow. Try to do something to calm yourself down for a bit. Deep breathing really does help though.

Then slow down and do smaller lines ..‘or whatever you’re doing.

Just my two cents!

Stay safe!
 
new2drugs said:
I heard that this is quite dangerous a mix
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Not particularly, although it can certainly be dangerous on a behavioral level. In fact, Id day its one of more dangerous combinations in that aspect.

However, benzos don't effect heart rate much, which is the main reason they took precedent over barbiturates, they aren't particularly dangerous to combine with stimulants on a physiological level.

If you go to the hosital with meth or cocaine OD, guess what one of the drugs they would give you is? Benzos. Typically lorazepam.

Opioids are a different story.
 
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that's how you over do it too without realizing it


don't do them at the same time - that's why you're sweatier than epstein at a playground

:idea:
 
Quasimoto said:
Not particularly, although it can certainly be dangerous on a behavioral level. In fact, Id day its one of more dangerous combinations in that aspect.

However, benzos don't effect heart rate much, which is the main reason they took precedent over barbiturates, they aren't particularly dangerous to combine with stimulants on a physiological level.

If you go to the hosital with meth or cocaine OD, guess what one of the drugs they would give you is? Benzos. Typically lorazepam.

Opioids are a different story.
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I heard that people have died taking valium after cocaine due to the changes is does to your heart.
 
You don't die when your heart rate changes, otherwise you'd die from cocaine by itself, or just from walking up the stairs

The risk with uppers and downers is that the increased heartrate from the coke "masks" the decreased heartrate from the heroin, and when the coke wears off you OD. I believe in this situation you would have OD'd even without the coke, just a bit sooner
 
GulpingBatteryLiquid said:
You don't die when your heart rate changes, otherwise you'd die from cocaine by itself, or just from walking up the stairs

The risk with uppers and downers is that the increased heartrate from the coke "masks" the decreased heartrate from the heroin, and when the coke wears off you OD. I believe in this situation you would have OD'd even without the coke, just a bit sooner
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I was told the valium did something similar. Could be wrong
 
ageingpartyfiend said:
you heard wrong, yeah

What do they give you at hospital if you are od on stims? Benzos
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right - and that's to end it


but dont start with benzos and then do your shit - that's where you're asking for trouble

because you don't think you're that high - so you do even more

and then you die

:hai:
 
Everybody is different.

Most people are going to tell you that sedatives are best for when the drugs are gone, not for the following day. Specifically, they are most often used when a person runs out of drugs, then feels their levels crash. With Cocaine, after a heavy night of using, this is probably gonna be ~2 hours after your last line.

For most people with stimulants, this creates a feeling of tension, anxiety, depression etc. This often comes with a period of several hours (longer if you're using something like Amphetamine) in which you are too stimulated to sleep, but you no longer are enjoying the experience. Taking the sedatives will allow someone to close this gap and put a period on the experience. They will then hopefully feel relaxed and fall asleep. This period of time is often very difficult for problem users, as they are often hit with the knowledge of potential consequences going from being in the background to being laser-focused.

If you're me, you take the Benzodiazepines at that point. They will be of much less utility the following morning. Sure, I see where you're coming from. They might make you feel better, but they will truly shine when used in the above manner.

There isn't anything inherently dangerous about this practice. In fact, the relaxing of tension and reduction of heart rate is probably of benefit to the body. This would in fact be the designated treatment in hospital for a person deemed to be overly/dangerously stimulated.

Benzodiazepines are essentially very, very safe medicine if you follow basic rules. Don't combine with other CNS depressants and do not take chronically and you're not likely to have issues outside of what you might potentially do while intoxicated, which can't really be called an "effect" of the drug itself.
 
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