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  • BDD Moderators: Keif’ Richards | negrogesic

Clonazolam might be more dangerous than you think

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I'm writing this because some very severe symptoms occurred after a ONE night clonazolam binge. I took about 50mg, obviously not on purpose, but it's so easy to black out on clonazolam (and I'm benzo-dependent and super experienced) so I guess I just decided to eat all 50mg. I don't know if there were any adverse effects at this time because obviously I can't remember lol, but I lived (clearly).Anyway, I'm dependent on etizolam and am at a steady 1.5mg a day regimen. I have used clonazolam a few time before, but at normal doses like .5mg and was shocked by how severe the rebound effects from one night of moderate use were (racing heart, no sleep, constant panic attacks).

Here's what just happened with clonazolam that really made me see it in a new light and more dangerous than almost every other benzo on the market. The rebound symptoms from one night of use included serious psychosis, suicidality, impulses to self harm, MULTIPLE partial and absent seizures, and probably worse had we not been lucky enough to have some more clonazolam and other benzos on hand. I feel that had I not been with someone this entire time, I could've seriously inured or even killed myself while in a state of psychosis. Luckily I wasn't violent, but also very verbally abusive and kept threatening suicide even though I am normally not at all suicidal. I believe also had several absent seizures. I'd be laying in bed and then suddenly I'd be doing something else or going somewhere and it felt 100% real, unlike a dream. Then I woke up in bed thinking wtf? Or I'd respond to people with completely random, nonsensical replies. It was all just very confusing. I pretty much had them continuously for an hour or two, maybe more. And my experience wasn't even the scarier one.

My friend, who has a worse benzo abuse history than I do (which included clonazolam for some time) started replying to me with completely unrelated comments and/or a random of jumble of words. He then started to have more seizure symptoms so I gave him 4mg clonazolam and a bunch of etizolam. Well, he didn't have a grand-mal seizure but looked like he was on the edge of one, and had constant absent seizures and a few partial ones. He was so far gone that he didn't even seem to realize anything was wrong, and thought he was having a conversation with me, but really it was gibberish. This was WITH 4mg clonazolam and give or take 10mg etizolam, and his normal dose (he's also dependent) is only 3-4mg etiz a day. That many benzos, and he still would not stop seizing for hours, but at least they were mild. If we hadn't had any benzos around, I'm sure it could have been much worse. It was terrifying anyway, he almost looked like he was dying and had every seizure symptom in the book, and almost total loss of motor function for some time. His face would often freeze and then he'd snap out of it or his eyes would roll back into his head, scary thing to see.

My incident happened right after the binge, but his was actually several days later. He took a stimulant and I guess that really pushes the excitotoxicity to its limits. However, he also took much more etizolam than usual that day, and that did nothing to stop him from having multiple seizures.

I'm no stranger to benzo blackout binges. In fact, I don't actually truly black out anymore (I can always remember now) I just lose inhibition like someone blacked out on benzos. I've never, EVER seen such severe rebound effects from a one day binge, or even a week long binge of any benzo. Yes, taking 50mg is hugely irresponsible, but that's the thing about clonazolam, it tends to make you redose and do stupid things and redose until there's none left to redose. So what was supposed to be 1mg of clonazolam for each of us one night, turned into an ordeal that could've easily been fatal, especially had we not been together.

Moral of the story: NEVER binge or even "experiment" with doses of clonazolam unless you only have a very small supply. The rebound effects are still a bitch. But if you happen to black out and consume a large amount, the rebound alone could kill you and cause serious albeit temporarily psychosis. And let me just repeat, this all happened WITH steady dosing of other benzos plus we had a large stash. If you don't have backup, the situation could be much worse, especially since neither of us thought there was really anything wrong with us and didn't attempt to seek any outside help because we weren't thinking clearly period. At least now I can say I know what true psychosis feels like. It feels like shit. Reading this whole report, it sounds more like a datura trip or cold turkeying 10 years worth of Xanax but this was all from one night of clonazolam binging. It's my favorite benzo at lower doses, but now I'm terrified of it. I had no idea it could produce such severe symptoms so quickly. Watch out with this one.
 
Exactly why I wouldn't touch Benzos again with a ten foot pole. I'd blackout find I took a bunch of pills when I never planned on or remembered taking them and go through withdrawals where I was acting boardline psychotic
 
Glad you are OK but this kind of goes without saying. Any benzodiazepine that is taken at 100 or so times the regular active dose will more than likely end in tears, I would not say this is just a feature of clonitrazolam.
 
Innit stee - as soon as I read 50mg the rest of the post becomes slightly irrelevant.

If using powders dose volumetrically lest you lose a good portion of your memory / life.
 
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