Heroin china white.

[kkgb1035]

I have the chance to get some real china white. I usually do bth when i do h and its not the best stuff and have a tolerance at about half a gram each shot.
What would be the recommended dosage for a shot of china and how many will i get out of a gram of it roughly.

 

[orgone]

It's impossible to tell you what is in your dope.

 

[kkgb1035]

i understnad that but lets say it was to be 70 to 80 percent pure.

 

[orgone]

Okay, then how pure was the previous half gram dope? What %? Can you even really give it a real percentage with out a lab testing the samples? Why do you assume the "china white" is 70 to 80 percent pure? Did you see a lab report quantifying the purity of the powder? What is your current tolerance? How much do you weigh? What is your metabolism like? Do you take any other current medications? How much is in the bags?

...see what I mean about it being impossible?

 

[down508]

calling it china white is probably just dealer hype. chances are you have powdered heroin hcl from south east asia. the real china white is apparently #4 heroin adulterated with a fentanyl analogue. start at a lower dose than your usual if your used to doing shitty tar, try 1/3rd of your tar dose to play it safe. and if your dealer is calling it china white he is probably a moron, so I would take anything he says with a grain of salt.

 

[BlueHues]

^I've debated with a lot of people on BL on exactly what "china white" means.....most of the time I THINK it's just a reference to number 4 heroin, these days....

some people think it's fentanyl dope....Some people think it's actually a kind of number 4 from Asia....So IDK.....

I'll just assume the OP has some type of white number 4 because that's most likely the case.....A lot of people on the west coast who use tar refer to all EC dope as "china white" anyway.....

That being said, I've done both tar and china white A LOT in my life and truthfully unless you're getting really shitty tar and really good ECP, it may not be as different by weight as you're expecting....There's really good and really shitty types of both out there....

The best white dope is better than the best tar because I don't think you can make tar past a certain range of purity, but it's pretty likely that you don't have 95 percent pure white!

I routinely shot 1/2 grams of white and I've routinely shot 1/2 grams of tar. and TBH, shot for shot it just depended on the batch....

Tar was a LOT cheaper by the gram than the powder I can get on the east coast, so for that reason I kind of liked it!

IME, white 4 lasts quite a bit longer than tar though.....

Proceed with caution and do test shots and you'll probably be able to guage what you've got pretty quickly...

 

[down508]

I Think chances are it is south east asian white/light tan powder. there is a reason why the west of the mississippi gets tar and east gets columbian powder. since asian powder is rare and doesn't have any specific turf in the U.S. it is more likely to be found on the west coast than south american powder. but that is all up to speculation. I think your right though bluehues, if it was fentanyl I doubt he would be advertising it as such.

I've never tried tar, but from what I hear the best tar is better than bad powder, but the best powder is better than the best tar. there's obviously variations in batches and also it should be noted that tar is a cocktail of opiates, where as east coast powder is usually just diacetylmorphine and cuts. when your doing tar you are doing multiple alkaloids such as 6-mam and 3-mam in addition to the diacetylmorphine and cutting agents, so the high will be slightly different.

either way start small. it's possible that its just garbage gear and hardly worth your time, you'll never know until you try it.

 

[Tommyboy]

Okay, then how pure was the previous half gram dope? What %? Can you even really give it a real percentage with out a lab testing the samples? Why do you assume the "china white" is 70 to 80 percent pure? Did you see a lab report quantifying the purity of the powder? What is your current tolerance? How much do you weigh? What is your metabolism like? Do you take any other current medications? How much is in the bags?

...see what I mean about it being impossible?

This.

We can't tell you much other than to do a small amount to start off with to gauge the purity. You should probably sniff some at first instead of going straight to shooting it.

I also agree with others that its probably just some South American powder heroin, but that debate is pointless and won't go anywhere.

 

[BlueHues]

^Ha! Yeah, as I recall TOmmy was one of the ones of the opinion that true "china white" is a variety of white dope from asia! And, technically speaking, that's probably true but how could you ever tell the difference as a user?

Yeah, the only thing you can do OP is be very cautious and try some! I am interested in hearing how it turns out though, so let us know...

 

[RedLeader]

I think the proper (read: elitist) definition is that CW refers to alpha-methylfentanyl (AMF), which was a quasi-legal opioid that was attributed to a string of deaths in the western US and in Russia around 1980. And it was sold as heroin, given its similar physical appearance to ECP and its strong kick. And is supposedly still around today as an (illegal) RC/cut/replacement. Not that this is necessarily the true origin, but its the explanation I have often read on other parts of the net.

I have also heard it used meaning h from SE Asia (I don't know why it would be China as the country, since I more associate it with opium). I can Vogue for the dope being a (almost) white powder when I was in Thailand a few years back.

99% of the time CW is used stateside it is dealer hype for ECP. In fact, I go the other way when I hear this because of this very fact. Good h sells itself.

As for tar vs powder, I have heard the argument that tar is metabolized better into the -MAMs, which makes for a better rush than powder. Not sure if this is actually the case, though.

 

[down508]

slightly off topic, but apparently drug labs run by the dea for example can analyze drugs and get a very good idea of where in the world it came from. they can even tell what part of south america a specific batch of cocaine came from, even what specific cartel it likely came from. I'm sure they can do the same with heroin and it would be much easier to tell what part of the world it came from. different types of h have specific traits that can be seen through gc/ms and other complex processes, but the bottom line is as a user the best you'll get is an educated guess. just do the dope, if its good enjoy it, if it isn't strike it of your bucket list and stick to tar.

 

[SuperHans68]

Recently i acquired a contact who has legit asian china white. Like im talking about a 10mg puke dose(with almost no tolly, but still 10mg!)

 

[BlueHues]

Well fuckin A! That sounds great, do you have contact information for this guy?! lol.....

 

[down508]

I have the same dealer. every one calls him ho chi minh and not only does he sell dope he also runs a highly lucrative russian roulette ring.

 

[manman]

^Excellent advice.

Real China White is extremely refined, very high potency heroin from S.E. Asia., the best coming from Cambodia and Burma respectively. I've had 90% gear - snorting first is an absolute prerogative. And do tiny lines! Like the length of a finger nail and thin. Once you know what a good snorted line is, shoot 1/2 that for a good rush.

That being said, truly pure smack is dangerous stuff. I OD'd last week from an amount that, eyeballed, was the same as every other shot I'd done the last few days. The variation of a few imperceptible mg can be the difference between a great rush, and death. If you've got the real deal, you'll need miniscule amounts.

"If you've got the real deal, you'll need miniscule amounts"
^ This

This is also why people claim they do *3 buns a day and than somebody does say, *4 BAGS of #4 ECP* and that person doing *4 bags* has a WAY higher tolerance, than that person doing *3 buns*